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Huzzah:

 Azreal13 wrote:

That's pretty much exactly describing 40K, so why not Fantasy?

In 40K there are 5 armies that consist of Space Marines ( iirc. ) In AoS there is one, that either partially or completely consists of models some people, not all, find are just Space Marines in fantasy. We were talking about basing the games success solely on making one faction to look like Space Marines.

To make Space Marine players like said army more? Plausible.

One faction. Entire new games business plan and succes, which is obviously inteded to go on for years, which has taken a lot of money and resources. Based on that single detail of one faction having miniatures that to some resemble Space Marines. Just... no.

I'm done about that subject now in any case, it's pointless to even think that is the case asfar as I'm concerned because it's so obviously not true.

You've ran a company asfar as I can remember, I'm sure you'll see basing a possibly million dollar product on something so off chance, something so vague, is just not realistic. They are basing the games success on all of its miniatures, its campaigns, the rules themselves, the fact it supports skirmish gaming and doesn't have a high entry cost, among other realistic things. Not one faction resembling Space Marines, and nothing else - the underlined part being most important.

Im kinda with Runic on that one - one factions release =/= a total revamp (although it is possible Runic).

Sigmar as Primarch confirmed?

 Avrik_Shasla wrote:
https://twitter.com/vidpui/status/614849226632220672

Some pics on the Twitter.

Oh, that chaos guy looks neat !

I maintain my stance that the primary thing wrong with the Sigmarites is they are painted in gold. Make that steel / gunmetal / etc., and you're in business.

 wana10 wrote:


Just a little instruction image from /tg/

Free miniature with the White Dwarf.

Seems the detail on the shields is sculpted on. I know some people were wondering about it before.

Closer look at the masks - blimey. Sure they're Sigmarites? What with Balthasar becoming 'god of metal' or something, sure they're not Gelt... ians?

NAVARRO wrote:
BAD! VERY BAD KIT! I mean shoulder pads split in half? attached arms to torso... a huge step back in plastic kits sprues.

I don't mind the attached arms. Multi-part poseability in plastic kits is sometimes a bit overwrought and overrated anyway. I think the big seam down the middle of each assembled pauldron would annoy me, though.

Azreal13 wrote:That's pretty much exactly describing 40K, so why not Fantasy?

As much as I'm undecided on the idea, I can't fault the logic of "Fantasy is dying, 40K is much more successful. Space Marines prop up 40K and are lacking an analogous faction in Fantasy, let's do Medieval Marines!"

Sad Panda wrote:

 wana10 wrote:


Just a little instruction image from /tg/

Free miniature with the White Dwarf.

Hey, thanks for that Sad Panda! I might have to pick one up to see how they feel in-person.

 Avrik_Shasla wrote:

 wana10 wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:



BAD! VERY BAD KIT! I mean shoulder pads split in half? attached arms to torso... a huge step back in plastic kits sprues.

This is just how GW does starter kits now. Look at the terminators in the current 40k starter. If/when these guys get their own box release I'm sure they'll have separate arms and such

Was going to say, this is how GW has been doing starter kits for the last releases of 40k and WFB.

Thats why my pattern of buying is 90% individual regiment boxes and 10% of starters as unit fillers.

Point is still valid though the kit is poor even if thats what GW typically includes in the starters

More so in this instance, we are looking at what seems to be a reboot in WFB and new aesthetics... it even looks like its a skirmish thing now... surely I can tolerate some unit fillers when you have tons of models on the table but on a skirmish level thats not acceptable... Is this what they mean about ferraris and aimed at collectors stuff? Im not feeling it. Missed chance to surprise me positively.

 NAVARRO wrote:


Point is still valid though the kit is poor even if thats what GW typically includes in the starters

Split across Shoulder Pads? Check.

Arms Attached to Torso? Check

Considered some of the best (push-fit) GW Miniatures? Check



The technology to do this has been around for 3 years minimum, and so far nobody saw it as a sign of bad quality.

I'm not seeing any splits on the shoulder pads on any of those images.

The Sigmarine ones go right down the middle.

 Grimtuff wrote:
I'm not seeing any splits on the shoulder pads on any of those images.

The Sigmarine ones go right down the middle.

And they are flat in comparison with spiked and OTT bling bling CSM ones, which makes all the difference.

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:
I'm not seeing any splits on the shoulder pads on any of those images.

The Sigmarine ones go right down the middle.

And they are flat in comparison with spiked and OTT bling bling CSM ones, which makes all the difference.

Indeed. Liquid greenstuff and a filing takes 5 seconds on a flat surface. Doing it on those on a gap with the Chosen without losing detail can be a bitch.

 Runic wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

That's pretty much exactly describing 40K, so why not Fantasy?

In 40K there are 5 armies that consist of Space Marines ( iirc. ) In AoS there is one, that either partially or completely consists of models some people, not all, find are just Space Marines in fantasy. We were talking about basing the games success solely on making one faction to look like Space Marines.

To make Space Marine players like said army more? Plausible.

One faction. Entire new games business plan and succes, which is obviously inteded to go on for years, which has taken a lot of money and resources. Based on that single detail of one faction having miniatures that to some resemble Space Marines. Just... no.

I'm done about that subject now in any case, it's pointless to even think that is the case asfar as I'm concerned because it's so obviously not true.

You've ran a company asfar as I can remember, I'm sure you'll see basing a possibly million dollar product on something so off chance, something so vague, is just not realistic. They are basing the games success on all of its miniatures, its campaigns, the rules themselves, the fact it supports skirmish gaming and doesn't have a high entry cost, among other realistic things. Not one faction resembling Space Marines, and nothing else - the underlined part being most important.

One faction for now. We have no idea how many flavours they may divide into in a few years.

I'd agree that basing a project of this scale on such a flimsy premise is risky, I'd not agree that it's vague or not realistic, look at the original reactions to the iPad. But then, I don't consider market research to be otiose in a niche, so I'm apparently not flying rodent gak crazy enough to be qualified to comment.

Wonderwolf wrote:

 NAVARRO wrote:

 Grimtuff wrote:
I'm not seeing any splits on the shoulder pads on any of those images.

The Sigmarine ones go right down the middle.

And they are flat in comparison with spiked and OTT bling bling CSM ones, which makes all the difference.

Indeed. Liquid greenstuff and a filing takes 5 seconds on a flat surface. Doing it on those on a gap with the Chosen without losing detail can be a bitch.

Haha great to know you can achieve such good results, and so quickly with such good awesome medium. Im quite a noob with Greenstuff

Actually, I'm not so sure liquid green stuff takes filing so well, I'd be more inclined to use Vallejo Plastic Putty, which is a better product all round IMHO.

 NAVARRO wrote:

Haha great to know you can achieve such good results, and so quickly with such good awesome medium. Im quite a noob with Greenstuff

Looks like they're trying to be WM/H with fantasy versions of 40k.
Still, very curious what they're going to do with it all. Old armies invalidated? Changed to be unrecognizable?

Is that mini confirmed free with White Dwarf? Seems like an Age (possibly longer than that of Sigmar) since they did that.

I am buzzing with what we have seen but need some rules to get properly excited. However the White Dwarf that introduced Execution Force had minimal information about the rules for the game so we may have to wait longer than the "traditional" monday/tuesday leak.

From here: https://twitter.com/Lady_Atia

"Age of Sigmar Starter: Battle for the Gates of Azyr, Warriors of the God King vs Khorne"

So those sigmarines are really "warriors of the god king". Its a bit of a long winded title for a box set "Age of sigmar battle for the gates of Azyr".

I'm still holding my breath in anticipation...

 MWHistorian wrote:
Looks like they're trying to be WM/H with fantasy versions of 40k.
Still, very curious what they're going to do with it all. Old armies invalidated? Changed to be unrecognizable?

This is not warhammer fantsy battles 9th edition. This is a completely new game.

Or possibly the opening act to a new version of Warhammer Fantasy...only time will tell.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Or possibly the opening act to a new version of Warhammer Fantasy...only time will tell.

That's part of the problem. No one knows and by now the Fantasy players should know what's going on with their armies.

Indeed, but nothing in GW's recent marketing strategies suggests that anybody will know until a week before anything is released.

We may not like it, it is just the way it is.

And for those without access to twitter:

I've got to chime in on this, sorry. To me, these really do look like medieval Space Marines. It's not just that they're in armour, it's the scale and fit and style of the armour. Most of all, it's the shoulder pads. And although I don't think GW rebooted Fantasy solely to introduce these guys (there'd be no need), I do think it's likely they would look at their reputedly massive sales of Marines and try to repeat that success with a WFB version.

Darnok just said that they will be no 40k release till october. So we should get a lot of kits for AoS ina very short span.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Darnok just said that they will be no 40k release till october. So we should get a lot of kits for AoS ina very short span.

Well, that but certainly is exciting, and probably what I'm looking forward to most.

yep, i guess each faction will at least get a few kits in this span, so we will have an idea of how they will look from now on.

 Accolade wrote:

 streetsamurai wrote:
Darnok just said that they will be no 40k release till october. So we should get a lot of kits for AoS ina very short span.

Well, that but certainly is exciting, and probably what I'm looking forward to most.

This is the statement I adore.