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So if one army has a 1/3rd more models than the other, you can attempt a sudden death victory.

Doing so allows you to immediately claim a major victory when the objective is achieved.

Then it says 'if your army won a major victory -in its previous battle-, roll a dice and look up the result on the triumph table on the right.'

Either they meant 'battle round' in that last part or this ruleset is designed for some kind of campaign play.

 judgedoug wrote:
Units can have any number of models.

There are no points on the Warscrolls.

There is no balancing mechanic.

Ta daa!

 judgedoug wrote:
Units can have any number of models.

There are no points on the Warscrolls.

There is no balancing mechanic.

I don't think so...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/4260/643158.page#7943771

It's kinda vague. We really need to see an example of a warscroll.

 Red Viper wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Units can have any number of models.

There are no points on the Warscrolls.

There is no balancing mechanic.

I don't think so...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/4260/643158.page#7943771

It's kinda vague. We really need to see an example of a warscroll.

Other than the 5 already posted and the rulebook posted?

In other news, those are officially Sigmarines. Huge shoulder pads with squadron identifying iconography, ludicrous quasi Latin names because IP reasons, ridiculously oversized armor(which is majorly lacking details for demigod warriors).

And yet again, Khorne models that can't be used as any non Khorne based soldier without a doctorates in miniatures sculpting.

A crap showing all around.

So some warscrolls are limited to 1 model, others have no model range at all.


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 Aerethan wrote:
In other news, those are officially Sigmarines. Huge shoulder pads with squadron identifying iconography, ludicrous quasi Latin names because IP reasons, ridiculously oversized armor(which is majorly lacking details for demigod warriors).

Lightning hammers.

Lightning


Hammers

Warscroll again

 judgedoug wrote:

 Red Viper wrote:

 judgedoug wrote:
Units can have any number of models.

There are no points on the Warscrolls.

There is no balancing mechanic.

I don't think so...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/4260/643158.page#7943771

It's kinda vague. We really need to see an example of a warscroll.

Other than the 5 already posted and the rulebook posted?

He probably just missed the post.

 streamdragon wrote:
So some warscrolls are limited to 1 model, others have no model range at all.

"A Lord-Celestial is a single model."

"A unit of Liberators can have any number of models."
"A unit of Blood Warriors can have any number of models."

so yeah basically

So close.....GW was so close...

Has anyone considered that this is specific to the starter set?

judgedoug wrote:Other than the 5 already posted and the rulebook posted?

Boss Salvage wrote:

Spoiler:

- Salvage

Bumping this to the fresh page!

EDIT: So ninja'd. Anyway, maybe I'll go do some work

- Salvage

 Dr. Delorean wrote:
So if one army has a 1/3rd more models than the other, you can attempt a sudden death victory.

Doing so allows you to immediately claim a major victory when the objective is achieved.

Then it says 'if your army won a major victory -in its previous battle-, roll a dice and look up the result on the triumph table on the right.'

Either they meant 'battle round' in that last part or this ruleset is designed for some kind of campaign play.

I don't think campaigns are involved at all. It's one of those things that a group of friends would be able to keep track of, but a tournament's first round would be a bloody nightmare.

 streetsamurai wrote:
Wow, that sounds like absolute garbage. Let's hope that the real rules (as in the big rulebook that is rumoured to come out) are more interesting than this. At this point, I might buy the set to convert the mini into cultist, but I sure wont play a game where the rules are that simple and boring.

A game shop owner who posts here (Mikhalia?) says this is it. GW has told him there is NO big rulebook coming.

It wouldn't be the first time GW has lied to independent shops, but... given that this reads like a stripped down version of the 40K rules, it seems VERY plausible.

 MLaw wrote:
Has anyone considered that this is specific to the starter set?

It's possible, although GW is saying this is it according to Mikhaila.

Be interested to see close ups of chaos stuff if you can. cheers for the scans

 Hulksmash wrote:
So close.....GW was so close...

Seriously :/

a Point system seems like the kind of thing that a community could shoe horn in. but for a "Games" Workshop this is kinda sad.

Can anyone make out the left stat? Top is move, right is save, bottom is Bravery, left is ... wounds?

 Red Viper wrote:

All models are described by warscrolls, which provide all of the rules for using them in the game. You will need warscrolls for the models you want to use.

Models fight in units. A unit can have one or more models, but cannot include models that use different warscrolls

So models and units are not the same thing?

If I understand this correctly, units may have no size limit (as rumored). But to add more models to a unit, you need more warscrolls... since "you will need warscrolls for the models you want to use"

I don't know. We still need to see what warscrolls look like.

I'm pretty keen to see a warscroll as well

 Hulksmash wrote:
So close.....GW was so close...

It's kind of interesting... I assumed the new Warhammer would be bad, as that's the direction GW has been headed in for many years now. However, I am absolutely blown away by how astoundingly bad Warhammer AoS actually is. GW exceeded my expectations entirely. The game is obviously designed as an afterthought to the miniatures. It's literally "put your favorite Citadel miniatures on the table"... quite literally. From any army, as many models as you want.

 MLaw wrote:
Has anyone considered that this is specific to the starter set?

That would be the reasonable explanation. We don't know if GW knows that.

I just remember Dark Vengeance.. did the starter book for that tell you to pick this and that.. and have you do very specific things?

I'm not saying it isn't either the bigger game or the smaller game or whatever but it just strikes me that this seems dumbed down to starter set level.


Also.. what if this is WHFB Apocalypse.. Just play whatever.. and the game we thought was the "smaller" game is really closer to 90s to early 2k era WHFB.

 streamdragon wrote:
Can anyone make out the left stat? Top is move, right is save, bottom is Bravery, left is ... wounds?

Yup.

Prosecutors, for example, Move 12", Wounds 2, Save 4+, Bravery 6.

Gotcha. Looks like even the blood warrior dudes have 2 wounds per model.

Points...there's no points...on those warscrolls...

God! Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!

Staggers around smashing stuff, downs a bottle of whisky...and then leaps out of a window

 judgedoug wrote:

 Hulksmash wrote:
So close.....GW was so close...

It's kind of interesting... I assumed the new Warhammer would be bad, as that's the direction GW has been headed in for many years now. However, I am absolutely blown away by how astoundingly bad Warhammer AoS actually is. GW exceeded my expectations entirely. The game is obviously designed as an afterthought to the miniatures. It's literally "put your favorite Citadel miniatures on the table"... quite literally. From any army, as many models as you want.

Honestly, the game play looks like it would be solid, fun, and fast. It's only the lack of a balancing mechanism that fails it. It'd be great with friends who plan games and horrible outside of any specific group

No pics of the chaos lord, come on

Put a power armor backpack on those Blood Warriors - instant Bezerkers.

I think that Mikhaila's GW reps are pulling the old 'focus on what is in front of them'.
They are just trying to sell him AOS and not talking about what's next. Even if that is points on warscrolls that get loaded to the site.

Otherwise, the community will fix it.

 His Master's Voice wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
Has anyone considered that this is specific to the starter set?

That would be the reasonable explanation. We don't know if GW knows that.

Actually thinking about it, DV didnt have any points costs as well.

Its entirely possible this is only for the box set and that eventually when other boxes for the individuals inside get released there will be points.

BUUUUUUT we have a heaping pile of we dont know. :/