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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:04:13
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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I actually prefer the Lord Celestant Hammerhand on his beastie more than the guy on foot
Though the Liberators with the great swords look badass!!
Also- not buying that 3" bit of metal lol. I'll just use my tape measure thanks
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:05:25
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Fixture of Dakka
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I find most of their stuff to be quite nice, especially the newer stuff.
To each their own.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:06:36
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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I'm liking mantic more and more
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:07:53
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Lol @ Mantic
Also, a hammer-cloak? Hammers are the new Skulls?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:08:30
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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[MOD]
Otiose in a Niche
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notprop wrote:Sad that Mantic feel that have to copy everything.........but not with the same quality of execution. 
Have an exault!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:10:24
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Ork Boy Hangin' off a Trukk
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I guess some people would buy a pile of doggie doo if it had a GW logo on it:
http://taleofpainters.blogspot.com/2015/07/chat-age-of-sigmar-from-optimistic-garfy.html
"This lack of balance in Age of Sigmar is a myth. If your opponent places a Bloodthirster on the table, make sure the next unit you place is something to deal with it. It's highly unlikely your opponent will keep placing Bloodthirsters."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:12:16
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Hammers are the new purity seals, and I'm totally okay with that lol
I hope the Lord Celestant has some helmet options though. I like the base one they have, but I'd like an unhelmeted variant or something. I guess maybe the Sigmarite legions are supposed to be faceless though.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:12:39
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Dakka Veteran
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:18:40
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Mantic wins the Internet for this day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:26:37
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Wrathful Warlord Titan Commander
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Someone else did come up with the idea, so more than likely.
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How do you promote your Hobby? - Legoburner "I run some crappy wargaming website " |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:51:56
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Hauptmann
Hogtown
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50 for five?
Lolololo
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:52:20
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Cultist of Nurgle with Open Sores
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Still better quality than most of Mantics product line.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:53:05
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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25€ for a meassurement tool.. thats the worst ever.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 12:56:50
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Fixture of Dakka
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Likely there's a rule whereby if you swing it around your head chanting "I'm a numpty" you get re rolls or something.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:04:43
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Posts with Authority
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Lol! Mantic FTW.
angelofvengeance wrote: Talys wrote:
What a great few words about the game. Thanks for sharing!
I particularly like his closing thoughts:
Lastly, I want to say this. If you enjoy the new rules and models, hold your head up high: every gamer has the right to like whatever they damn well please. But respect the old guard, they built the hobby into what it is today.
If you don't like the rules, I absolutely get it. Please don't take it out on the people that do like them. As gamers we've never had as much choice and quality to choose from. when it comes to our gaming. Thoughtful critique and discussion wins over bitterness every time.
Yeah that's pretty much one of the most human responses to AoS I've read so far.
If by human you mean non-committal and scared of rocking the boat, yes.  It could just as easily read 'people who like balanced, competitive games should hold their head up high and others shouldn't whinge at them for being waacers'.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:13:13
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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As has been pointed out $50 for 5 40mm sized models is inline with their current pricing for their 40k line for models being sold that were currently released a decade ago. It's also cheaper than equivelant models (5 BA Terminators) that were recently released. It's actually cheaper than some of their end time pricing (i.e. Blightkings & Wrathmongers) for equivelant fantasy offerings.
Not saying $50 isn't expensive but it's not like GW is sneaking in a price increase. The price increase seems to be on the not needed but cool accessories (if that's your thing) or the help eliminate extra steps painting items.
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Best Painted (2015 Adepticon 40k Champs)
They Shall Know Fear - Adepticon 40k TT Champion (2012 & 2013) & 40k TT Best Sport (2014), 40k TT Best Tactician (2015 & 2016) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:14:00
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Warning From Magnus? Not Listening!
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Mantic takes a break from working on their next fething kickstarter to actually make something Automatically Appended Next Post: Shadowclaimer wrote:
Hammers are the new purity seals, and I'm totally okay with that lol
I hope the Lord Celestant has some helmet options though. I like the base one they have, but I'd like an unhelmeted variant or something. I guess maybe the Sigmarite legions are supposed to be faceless though.
I've got a feeling they probably don't have pretty faces, or else we'd have seen some unhelmeted ones. That model looks ace!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:18:00
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Experienced Maneater
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Do we have any information, if the Liberators will be multi-part or snapfit?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:19:32
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Thermo-Optical Hac Tao
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Hanskrampf wrote:Do we have any information, if the Liberators will be multi-part or snapfit?
They won't be snapfit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:24:10
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Leaping Khawarij
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Hammer cloak mchammerson isn't so bad looking.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:26:20
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Hauptmann
Hogtown
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Hulksmash wrote:
As has been pointed out $50 for 5 40mm sized models is inline with their current pricing for their 40k line for models being sold that were currently released a decade ago. It's also cheaper than equivelant models (5 BA Terminators) that were recently released. It's actually cheaper than some of their end time pricing (i.e. Blightkings & Wrathmongers) for equivelant fantasy offerings.
Not saying $50 isn't expensive but it's not like GW is sneaking in a price increase. The price increase seems to be on the not needed but cool accessories (if that's your thing) or the help eliminate extra steps painting items.
Yeah, I agree with you. But for a new army being launched, presumably as a way to get new players in it's kind of ridiculous.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:27:40
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Las wrote: Hulksmash wrote:
As has been pointed out $50 for 5 40mm sized models is inline with their current pricing for their 40k line for models being sold that were currently released a decade ago. It's also cheaper than equivelant models (5 BA Terminators) that were recently released. It's actually cheaper than some of their end time pricing (i.e. Blightkings & Wrathmongers) for equivelant fantasy offerings.
Not saying $50 isn't expensive but it's not like GW is sneaking in a price increase. The price increase seems to be on the not needed but cool accessories (if that's your thing) or the help eliminate extra steps painting items.
Yeah, I agree with you. But for a new army being launched, presumably as a way to get new players in it's kind of ridiculous.
Indeed--but it makes Age of Sigmar a hell of a lot better deal.
10x Liberators with Hammers/Shields would come out to $100 by themselves in a $125 box.
I'm curious as to whether or not there will be an "army box" of some kind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:34:28
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Paradigm wrote:
Pics
Looks to be 5 Liberators to a box, with sword or hammer options (2-handers of each for the champions). Am I the only one who thinks the starter kit ones actually look far better in terms of posing ect?
No, I'm with you. Not as drastic a difference as the Dark Vengeance Chosen to all (C) SM kits, but the starter ones have a nice "soulless, uncaring automaton" thing going for them. That's why I like their gold paintjob as well, because there are som God of War concept paintings for the animated statues enemies that I just *love*. The multi-part ones seem awkwardly posed, but maybe veteran kitbashers will do extremely impressive stuff with them, who knows.
Bits sites also have them for 15 pounds for ten from the starter, so LOL at GW prices, No matter how expensive Termis are.
PS: I hope dwarfs (or whatever they're called now) won't begrude the Sigmarines stealing their "hammer beard" idea. That the Sigmarines can'T grow manly beards and have to hang them on their cloaks might console them a bit
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:35:39
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Archmagos Veneratus Extremis
Home Base: Prosper, TX (Dallas)
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Las wrote: Hulksmash wrote:
As has been pointed out $50 for 5 40mm sized models is inline with their current pricing for their 40k line for models being sold that were currently released a decade ago. It's also cheaper than equivelant models (5 BA Terminators) that were recently released. It's actually cheaper than some of their end time pricing (i.e. Blightkings & Wrathmongers) for equivelant fantasy offerings.
Not saying $50 isn't expensive but it's not like GW is sneaking in a price increase. The price increase seems to be on the not needed but cool accessories (if that's your thing) or the help eliminate extra steps painting items.
Yeah, I agree with you. But for a new army being launched, presumably as a way to get new players in it's kind of ridiculous.
Not really ridiculous. The starter is to get people in. Army units are priced like army units. Also, what Kan said. Starter set looks better at those prices (maybe you buy one box for the sergeant weapon options) and starter sets have the added advantage of people providing stuff for their friends to play with. Basically how we used to sell the Two Towers starter when Return of the King was out. It was basically almost the cost for the starter as one sides worth of figures so we moved more starters.
Overall the price seems fine for the unit. Now the accessories price is plain silly but they aren't needed to play the game and some collectors out there will love them and grab them so good on them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:39:15
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Yellin' Yoof
Oakville, Ontario, Canada
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Binabik15 wrote:
Bits sites also have them for 15 pounds for ten from the starter
I wonder if you'll be able to use the extra bits from the 5 man kit to convert starter models (like you could with Assault on Black Reach terminators)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:44:44
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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Watching Paint Dry wrote:Binabik15 wrote:
Bits sites also have them for 15 pounds for ten from the starter
I wonder if you'll be able to use the extra bits from the 5 man kit to convert starter models (like you could with Assault on Black Reach terminators)
I very much doubt it, sadly.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:55:54
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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The Last Chancer Who Survived
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Are the sigmarines you buy separately more posable than the starter stuff? like how space marines have separate torsos and legs and stuff? And separate shoulder pads? or do we not know yet?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:56:35
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Stubborn Hammerer
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That's all they could afford.
HA CHA CHA
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:57:11
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Shas'la with Pulse Carbine
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Necros wrote:Are the sigmarines you buy separately more posable than the starter stuff? like how space marines have separate torsos and legs and stuff? And separate shoulder pads? or do we not know yet?
We don't know yet, but I definitely think its a safe assumption because every starter set figure compared to army box figures do that.
And as the "flag ship army" of AOS, they'd be stupid to not take advantage of one of the things they're known for.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/07/08 13:59:02
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Campaign/Fluff Book, Stormcast Archers, Unmounted Celestan Incoming
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Infiltrating Broodlord
Lake County, Illinois
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I don't think the lack of a points system is going to be a problem for the new players GW is targeting. They will play the scenarios in the books. As for the veterans, GW probably assumes that they are experienced miniature gamers and capable of coming up with their own scenarios. Just goes to show how little GW knows about their customers.
I do think this will backfire on them a little if Age of Sigmar does become popular. Once you teach people that it is okay to write their own scenarios, it isn't a big step from there to writing your own terrain Warscrolls, at which point you don't need to buy the GW brand terrain.
For example, the "Walls and Fences" terrain says " consists of four walls, five fences and a pair of signposts". If that had a points value, you'd pretty much have to buy the GW Walls and Fences. If you had the wrong number of walls or fences or signposts, or they weren't the right length, then you wouldn't know how many points it was. So the players would pretty much have to buy the GW one. But if there are no points, and you are encouraged to do your own thing, why not use whatever size/shape of walls and fences you want?
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