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 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
The whippy sticks in the box set are incredible:

those look so painful

So, Slaanesh does go missing.

Here's hoping it's just for a minor lore touch up.

Ashitaka wrote:
So we've got
Sigmar
Sigmaron - his castle
Sigmarite - mined from the remains of the old world (Mallus)
Sigmarabulum - the forges where they make weapons

Is this going to end up like murderfang with murderclaws?

That's just plain wrong. Quite sad that this is what is replacing the Warhammer World

 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:

Ashitaka wrote:
So we've got
Sigmar
Sigmaron - his castle
Sigmarite - mined from the remains of the old world (Mallus)
Sigmarabulum - the forges where they make weapons

Is this going to end up like murderfang with murderclaws?

That's just plain wrong. Quite sad that this is what is replacing the Warhammer World

Because the old world was known for its creative naming..

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:

Ashitaka wrote:
So we've got
Sigmar
Sigmaron - his castle
Sigmarite - mined from the remains of the old world (Mallus)
Sigmarabulum - the forges where they make weapons

Is this going to end up like murderfang with murderclaws?

That's just plain wrong. Quite sad that this is what is replacing the Warhammer World

Because the old world was known for its creative naming..

It was way better than the 40K Galaxy!

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:

Ashitaka wrote:
So we've got
Sigmar
Sigmaron - his castle
Sigmarite - mined from the remains of the old world (Mallus)
Sigmarabulum - the forges where they make weapons

Is this going to end up like murderfang with murderclaws?

That's just plain wrong. Quite sad that this is what is replacing the Warhammer World

Because the old world was known for its creative naming..

The Old World was an interesting backdrop for the Warhammer setting. Do you think that 'Sigmar' as the stem of all those background descriptions is creative or interesting?

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:

Ashitaka wrote:
So we've got
Sigmar
Sigmaron - his castle
Sigmarite - mined from the remains of the old world (Mallus)
Sigmarabulum - the forges where they make weapons

Is this going to end up like murderfang with murderclaws?

That's just plain wrong. Quite sad that this is what is replacing the Warhammer World

Because the old world was known for its creative naming..

While the Old World and 40k are definitely lacking in the creative name department, I really don't like this "name everything with the same core word" concept they've got going on, aka Murderfang and whatnot.

 namiel wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
The whippy sticks in the box set are incredible:

those look so painful

Hahahaha oh my god, I didn't think it was possible that they could make the whippy sticks even more intimidating!

lord_blackfang wrote:Now you have my permission to rage.

Haha Slaanesh fan? I just thought the icon looked funny.

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I would strongly suspect the new fourth is The Horned Rat. The double horns remind me of the new verminlords. He did very well for himself in the End Times, I think he leveled up to the grownups table.

I don't think it's the Horned Rat only because that would sort of imply that he is directly opposed to Khorne, in the same way that Tzeentch and Nurgle oppose each other. It would also sort of imply human followers of the Great Horned Rat, which I would find very strange.

@Ashitaka- Alexander the Great named numerous cities after himself- Alexandria in Egypt and Alexandretta in Turkey (now İskenderun) also don't forget Washington D.C, Stalingrad and Leningrad. you could argue that naming things and places after your leader is pretty realistic thing to do

It seems to me that they have actually left it quite open for the 'return' of Old World factions such as the Empire, with the whole time travel thing and a city full of 'the lost' people (if I read that right, skim read it tbh) feel free to correct me if im wrong though

I quite like the look of the new models tbh, the sigmarites look decent enough to be a Gods magically created army

I am very intrigued about the while Slaanesh thing. Id say its more story development than retcon. its about time Slaanesh got something new. the fact they are drawing attention to it says they have something big planned, which means new models (after Khorne Daemonkin and the massive amount of khorne/ nurgle fantasy stuff it'll be good to even the field)

I'm afraid I may come down with a case of Sigmaritis- inflmation of the Sigmaral glands if I'm not able to pick up a box this weekend.

Chopxsticks wrote:
Am I reading the Liberator Warscroll correctly that if just one model is equip with a shield the whole unit gets to reroll 1's?

Haven't read the "main" rules yet, but there is nothing in the warscroll from stopping you mixing different weapon loadouts, so yes, you would need only one guy with shield.

I heard Sigmaron will also have a Sigmarina where Sigmar can Sigmoor his boats.

 Hanskrampf wrote:

Chopxsticks wrote:
Am I reading the Liberator Warscroll correctly that if just one model is equip with a shield the whole unit gets to reroll 1's?

Haven't read the "main" rules yet, but there is nothing in the warscroll from stopping you mixing different weapon loadouts, so yes, you would need only one guy with shield.

Yes there is. It says some units are armed with X, while other units are armed with Y. It is talking about units, not models.

You're right, I'm sorry.
Should have gone back to the picture and read the unit entry again.

 Necros wrote:
I heard Sigmaron will also have a Sigmarina where Sigmar can Sigmoor his boats.

The stormcast eternals have a frat you know.
They are part of the sigma phi society

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I think 3 circles of uncle nuggz is a lot less claimable than the slaaneshi symbol.

I have a sudden image of GW trying to sue every pawnbroker in America.

Then when they lose, complain about legal systems designed to pawn pigs.

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:Amen to that Tuomas:

"If you don't like the rules, I absolutely get it. Please don't take it out on the people that do like them. As gamers we've never had as much choice and quality to choose from when it comes to feeding our gaming habits.

Thoughtful critique and discussion wins over bitterness and fanboyism every time."

Rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby, rock the boat, don't tip the boat over...

Again, this sounds like a general salve to soothe anyone who might've huffed at his description of a bland game, and unfriended him. Who's taking it out on AoS fans anyway? I've seen public angst and arguing between people about just how good it is and why exactly oldschool WFB had to die (about 300 pages of it...) and some general ranting about GW fans in another part of the forum; but to counter that there's also been a bit of ranting about stuff like how crap KoW is, how dare KoW be mentioned here when ungrateful people want a balanced mass-battle alternative to AoS, good riddance to gamers who want that terrible, antisocial 'competition' thing, etc... (which goes to show that people taking a less-than-ecstatic review personally, is not that unusual a thing to expect)

 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:


The Old World was an interesting backdrop for the Warhammer setting. Do you think that 'Sigmar' as the stem of all those background descriptions is creative or interesting?

I'm a bit disappointed with the whole aeon/whatnot that has passed since the destruction of the Old World. They could have made it so that the AoS occurs pretty much immediately after the End Times, picking up the remains of the races that have somehow escaped the destruction, and having the remnants of the OW as one of the worlds they fight upon.

And if it's like 1000 years after the OW, does it make AoS = WH1k?

If I was a god brooding over the loss of my home world to some filthy fanatics hell bent on destroying all good. You better bet your ass im gonna spend the rest of eternity plotting and forging their demise and naming every single thing I can get my rage filled hands on after my glorious self.

BUT IN FANTASY ARCHAON IS 'THE DARK PRINCE'

 Necros wrote:
I heard Sigmaron will also have a Sigmarina where Sigmar can Sigmoor his boats.

hehe He is like the smurfs

Or in sigmaritte ": Sigmar is like sigmar, he names everything after sigmar, because what the sigmar not:

Coinage? Sigmarks

Women's rights in Sigmaron? Sigmarginalized

Exercise? Sigmarathon

When he visits his friends in Jamaica? Sigmon

From BOLS

Keep in mind that's the starter box scenarios. The "normal" ones might not be quite so structured.

Huh. Cool.

Well, telling people what size of table to use for a scenario, and where all the terrain goes, on top of the models to use certainly reduces the chances of imbalance.

Thanks for passing that on.

 Talys wrote:
Huh. Cool.

Well, telling people what size of table to use for a scenario, and where all the terrain goes, on top of the models to use certainly reduces the chances of imbalance.

Thanks for passing that on.

A couple of us were dissussing last night whilst Mechwarrior on lining - sort of follows the end Times sourcebooks wher they had begun to set down the forces incolved in battles much more clearly than before and how the new campaign books will be specifc scenarios with most aspects defined - so more likes historical reneactments than pick up games with a few extra rules.

So I guess you might say "fancy playing X Y or Z scenario rather than play X pts" ....... not sure it will be everyone's cup of tea but IF the scenarios are done well could work to some degree......

 Mr Morden wrote:

 Talys wrote:
Huh. Cool.

Well, telling people what size of table to use for a scenario, and where all the terrain goes, on top of the models to use certainly reduces the chances of imbalance.

Thanks for passing that on.

A couple of us were dissussing last night whilst Mechwarrior on lining - sort of follows the end Times sourcebooks wher they had begun to set down the forces incolved in battles much more clearly than before and how the new campaign books will be specifc scenarios with most aspects defined - so more likes historical reneactments than pick up games with a few extra rules.

So I guess you might say "fancy playing X Y or Z scenario rather than play X pts" ....... not sure it will be everyone's cup of tea but IF the scenarios are done well could work to some degree......

Im certain that people will eventually find there Dust2 or Final destination no items scenario to use for pick up games.

 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:

 Shadowclaimer wrote:

 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:

Ashitaka wrote:
So we've got
Sigmar
Sigmaron - his castle
Sigmarite - mined from the remains of the old world (Mallus)
Sigmarabulum - the forges where they make weapons

Is this going to end up like murderfang with murderclaws?

That's just plain wrong. Quite sad that this is what is replacing the Warhammer World

Because the old world was known for its creative naming..

The Old World was an interesting backdrop for the Warhammer setting. Do you think that 'Sigmar' as the stem of all those background descriptions is creative or interesting?

What I think is that you must be running out of important stuff to carp about if this is what's really sticking in your craw right now.

So Sigmar has an ego. *shrug* Alexander the Great established how many Alexandrias? And that was like, real life and stuff.

I actually kinda like how the duel scenario involves just two main characters (and one of their pets) and is played by an NPC. Seems like a good "here's how to play the game" type scenario for showing newbies.

 Vermis wrote:

MeanGreenStompa wrote:I think 3 circles of uncle nuggz is a lot less claimable than the slaaneshi symbol.

I have a sudden image of GW trying to sue every pawnbroker in America.

Then when they lose, complain about legal systems designed to pawn pigs.

Thraxas Of Turai wrote:Amen to that Tuomas:

"If you don't like the rules, I absolutely get it. Please don't take it out on the people that do like them. As gamers we've never had as much choice and quality to choose from when it comes to feeding our gaming habits.

Thoughtful critique and discussion wins over bitterness and fanboyism every time."

Rock the boat, don't rock the boat baby, rock the boat, don't tip the boat over...

Again, this sounds like a general salve to soothe anyone who might've huffed at his description of a bland game, and unfriended him. Who's taking it out on AoS fans anyway? I've seen public angst and arguing between people about just how good it is and why exactly oldschool WFB had to die (about 300 pages of it...) and some general ranting about GW fans in another part of the forum; but to counter that there's also been a bit of ranting about stuff like how crap KoW is, how dare KoW be mentioned here when ungrateful people want a balanced mass-battle alternative to AoS, good riddance to gamers who want that terrible, antisocial 'competition' thing, etc... (which goes to show that people taking a less-than-ecstatic review personally, is not that unusual a thing to expect)

That's some bizarre posting by you. You really believe all that?