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2015/07/11 08:05:41
Subject: Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
So far, she's only posted pics of actual upcoming stuff, so I imagine these are legit.
It says right on there that they are unofficial. They were made by a store that is running a tournament.
They look like someone just wanted some of the stuff back from 8th. I actually don't like them.
-Heroes suddenly are hard to kill if they hang in the back. One thing we've seen after about 30 games is that you have to be a bit careful with heroes and wizards. Warmachines can do a good job of ruining their day. With this set up, having vizards in your backfield are much more protected.
-I actually don't see the need for pulling out the closest models in a unit. It's been working fine without that and just takes more time.
-I've actually come to like not having to worry about shooting into combat, and just worrying about line of site. Large monsters are much easier to kill and not as dominant. Because of that players aren't minding when people bring big models, and they add a lot to the game. You can't hid a bloodthirster in combat.
I think you are right. This game is very different from Warhammer Fantasy, and I think people are trying to change things that seem like they wouldn't work in Warhammer Fantasy, or are just too different. People should probably try playing several games to get used to how different everything is, before trying to change the rules. Some of the ones that seem odd actually work well in combination with everything else. As you point out, it is hard to have good line of sight to shoot at things locked in combat, unless they are really big. Having said that, I think it might have been good to have a rule that said you couldn't shoot if you were within 1/2" of an enemy (or in base contact, if we weren't pretending there were no bases). It is a little hard to imagine how those empire handgunners manage to reload while someone is actively trying to stab them.
It's a completely different game, an not one for everybody. It's a bold move by GW and if they are correct, could solidify their position in tabletop gaming.
It is not and never will be ranked fantasy wargaming, though, which is my baileywick. I'll just take my models and move on. Others will find a home in AoS. It's all good. There's no such thing as badwrongfun.
Well said. Exalted!
2015/07/11 08:24:06
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
There is no wrong fun, well kind of but not really what if my fun is torching houses. Anyway back to gaming, no fun is wrong but some fun requires more brain work as in one end of the scale being checkers through consequently deeper games to the other end of the scale being, let's say chess. Also there is wrong treatment of existing customers, like ignoring entire competitive scene where people spent thousands of pounds dollars etc or sell you 4 End Times book and make them obsolete in no time or just laugh off your armies that you paid heavy money for and have been painting for months, then having a nerve to calling it a fething hhhhhobby.
From the initial Age of Sigmar news thread, when its "feature" list was first confirmed:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck. But one made from two circus trains colliding.
A collosal, terrible, flaming, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spraying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.
How could I look away?
2015/07/11 08:27:26
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Plumbumbarum wrote: There is no wrong fun, well kind of but not really what if my fun is torching houses. Anyway back to gaming, no fun is wrong but some fun requires more brain work as in one end of the scale being checkers through consequently deeper games to the other end of the scale being, let's say chess. Also there is wrong treatment of existing customers, like ignoring entire competitive scene where people spent thousands of pounds dollars etc or sell you 4 End Times book and make them obsolete in no time or just laugh off your armies that you paid heavy money for and have been painting for months, then having a nerve to calling it a fething hhhhhobby.
Explain why you cannot use your end times books and the last edition rules please.
2015/07/11 08:35:15
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Plumbumbarum wrote: There is no wrong fun, well kind of but not really what if my fun is torching houses. Anyway back to gaming, no fun is wrong but some fun requires more brain work as in one end of the scale being checkers through consequently deeper games to the other end of the scale being, let's say chess. Also there is wrong treatment of existing customers, like ignoring entire competitive scene where people spent thousands of pounds dollars etc or sell you 4 End Times book and make them obsolete in no time or just laugh off your armies that you paid heavy money for and have been painting for months, then having a nerve to calling it a fething hhhhhobby.
Explain why you cannot use your end times books and the last edition rules please.
Yeah, this crap needs to stop.
You are perpetuating a lie.
Just because something new came out, doesn't mean your stuff is obsolete. Stop it. It's childish and stupid.
Imagine if magic players did this every time a set came out. Those people spend just as much money on friggin cardboard, and when new cards replace their cards as the newest, they dont burn their friggin decks. They dont flood the forums with inane butthurt posts. They move on and play with what they have or not at all.
2015/07/11 08:38:54
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Plumbumbarum wrote: There is no wrong fun, well kind of but not really what if my fun is torching houses. Anyway back to gaming, no fun is wrong but some fun requires more brain work as in one end of the scale being checkers through consequently deeper games to the other end of the scale being, let's say chess. Also there is wrong treatment of existing customers, like ignoring entire competitive scene where people spent thousands of pounds dollars etc or sell you 4 End Times book and make them obsolete in no time or just laugh off your armies that you paid heavy money for and have been painting for months, then having a nerve to calling it a fething hhhhhobby.
Explain why you cannot use your end times books and the last edition rules please.
Nice bs question. I can use 4th edition. I can use my End Times book as toilet paper. The game is not supported anymore though and every person switching to Angst of Shareholders is lowering my chances to find a game. The rest might decide to play KoW, 7th or sth else or 8th without End Times and it might turn out that my 40 opponents within 30km radius are now 3.
But yes you can always play 8th, it's fine no big deal. Also balanced by the size of your deployment zone lol.
Plumbumbarum wrote: There is no wrong fun, well kind of but not really what if my fun is torching houses. Anyway back to gaming, no fun is wrong but some fun requires more brain work as in one end of the scale being checkers through consequently deeper games to the other end of the scale being, let's say chess. Also there is wrong treatment of existing customers, like ignoring entire competitive scene where people spent thousands of pounds dollars etc or sell you 4 End Times book and make them obsolete in no time or just laugh off your armies that you paid heavy money for and have been painting for months, then having a nerve to calling it a fething hhhhhobby.
Explain why you cannot use your end times books and the last edition rules please.
Yeah, this crap needs to stop.
You are perpetuating a lie.
Just because something new came out, doesn't mean your stuff is obsolete. Stop it. It's childish and stupid.
Imagine if magic players did this every time a set came out. Those people spend just as much money on friggin cardboard, and when new cards replace their cards as the newest, they dont burn their friggin decks. They dont flood the forums with inane butthurt posts. They move on and play with what they have or not at all.
Hahaha no and your analogy with MtG is idiotic.
As for stupid and childish, welcome to AGE OF SIGMAR.
This message was edited 3 times. Last update was at 2015/07/11 08:45:20
From the initial Age of Sigmar news thread, when its "feature" list was first confirmed:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck. But one made from two circus trains colliding.
A collosal, terrible, flaming, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spraying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.
How could I look away?
2015/07/11 08:46:28
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Plumbumbarum wrote: There is no wrong fun, well kind of but not really what if my fun is torching houses. Anyway back to gaming, no fun is wrong but some fun requires more brain work as in one end of the scale being checkers through consequently deeper games to the other end of the scale being, let's say chess. Also there is wrong treatment of existing customers, like ignoring entire competitive scene where people spent thousands of pounds dollars etc or sell you 4 End Times book and make them obsolete in no time or just laugh off your armies that you paid heavy money for and have been painting for months, then having a nerve to calling it a fething hhhhhobby.
Explain why you cannot use your end times books and the last edition rules please.
Yeah, this crap needs to stop.
You are perpetuating a lie.
Just because something new came out, doesn't mean your stuff is obsolete. Stop it. It's childish and stupid.
Imagine if magic players did this every time a set came out. Those people spend just as much money on friggin cardboard, and when new cards replace their cards as the newest, they dont burn their friggin decks. They dont flood the forums with inane butthurt posts. They move on and play with what they have or not at all.
Magic the Gathering has a very rigid, no nonsense, rule-set as a base. Just look at the comprehensive rules if you don't believe me (warning: staring at it too long may drive you insane). It has many different formats, all with followings and support, that facilitate older cards that do not fit into Standard. This is an extremely poor comparison.
2015/07/11 08:48:56
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
MaxT wrote: In fairness, if you only ever played at GW stores and events you're gak out of luck.
Yep, this is the salient point for many. Especially in the UK, many peoples gaming is almost exclusively in GW stores, so they have little choice unless a friendly manager allows 8th played on game nights, and I suspect that will be rare.
For me, I would say if I was playing an out of date game at home, why would I choose 8th? I'd pick one that worked, 5th probably. At home my group play 2nd 40K for instance, because that is the one we like the best.
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2015/07/11 08:50:43
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/07/11 09:09:16
From the initial Age of Sigmar news thread, when its "feature" list was first confirmed:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck. But one made from two circus trains colliding.
A collosal, terrible, flaming, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spraying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.
How could I look away?
2015/07/11 08:51:07
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
Plumbumbarum wrote: There is no wrong fun, well kind of but not really what if my fun is torching houses. Anyway back to gaming, no fun is wrong but some fun requires more brain work as in one end of the scale being checkers through consequently deeper games to the other end of the scale being, let's say chess. Also there is wrong treatment of existing customers, like ignoring entire competitive scene where people spent thousands of pounds dollars etc or sell you 4 End Times book and make them obsolete in no time or just laugh off your armies that you paid heavy money for and have been painting for months, then having a nerve to calling it a fething hhhhhobby.
Explain why you cannot use your end times books and the last edition rules please.
Maybe with friends or the odd club perhaps, but in anything that GW owns or has significant influence over old warhammer is dead. And if you're nearest store is a GW one your kinda stuck.
those sculpts look amazing!!!
i am so stoked with the new models...
the plastics just keep getting better every year...
i am also happy that Chris Wraight has written the first AoS novel...
i have enjoyed everything he has written for BL, so i look forward to him introducing me to the new world...
time to get out my P3 Merdius Blue, and paint up some teal Sigmarites
cheers
jah
Automatically Appended Next Post:
TBD wrote: Does this mean the baby Gryph is not included in the blister or does he have his own little baby sprue?
different guy...
this is the foot version of the Lord Celestant in the starter...
Lantern Guy w/ baby Gryph will hopefully be the week after, because he is the one i am most excited about...
cheers
jah
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2015/07/11 09:23:05
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar - Slaanesh Replaced? plus big book, stormcast archers, dismounted celestan
.... and so today is the day everyone has been waiting for then !
As this is now released this monster of a thread is going to be locked.
Discussion relating to this product can continue in the relevant board further down the site.
Any new releases or pics of new models swiped from this release can always go in their own thread if needs be.
There's been conflicting rumours about how many/often releases for AoS will be coming, so we're gonna have to play it by ear here for a wee while.
Probably due weekly or monthly threads, see how the community takes to things.
Good luck everyone, and to anyone who was involved at all in the previous versions of WFB and/or the Old World : thank you very much. Was a hell of a ride.
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