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100€....



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...GW has lost the plot.

Wow, the board isn't even modular!

I can't see how 4 assassin temples are need to kill a guy guarded by cultists. Isn't that's what death cult assassins are for?

guru wrote:
100€....

*heart sinks*

Well forget that...

Some of you don't think it's a fair fight for the Chaos force here. I think we're equating CSM 40K tabletop performance to how they will fair in this boardgame. Here's some points that I think will hopefully make it fair, if not challenging for our intrepid heroes:

1. From a fluff perspective, a known Chaos Space Marine Sorcerer Lord operating in Imperial space is Public Enemy No. 1 and for good reason. They are probably the single most dangerous entity in whatever sector they are operating. Ahriman, Iskander Khayon, and Typhon are names feared throughout the known galaxy. We aren't talking about a mere lictor, carnifex, genestealer cult, rogue Tau commander, some Eldar Corsairs, or an Ork Warboss. A powerful Chaos Sorcerer can call upon his vast knowledge of warfare, cause catastrophic destruction, make his marine followers into savage, nearly unstoppable monsters among many other things. He can be all but impervious to physical harm. A Sorcerer Lord operating outside the Eye of Terror is a man on a mission and is fully confident in his abilities. His power is waxing and wants his Dark Gods to know it. Njal Stormcaller was almost brought down by a weakened Death Guard Sorcerer Lord. Remember how a top-notch assassin force faired on their mission to kill Horus? They didn't even get close. You'd need all four assasins to take down a powerful Sorcerer Lord.

2. In this new game, it looks like the environment is corrupted and infused with warp energies/entities. That may factor into the game somehow. Perhaps, this will be a random effect on moving, perception, or shooting.

3. The Sorcerer Lord will probably buff all of his followers, making them stronger/faster. Looks like he also has some kind of warp relic to make the assassins' lives misreable.


Give Chaos credit (at least the fluff).

Thanks for the latest pics. I was very interested but the boardgame content is lacking for 100 EUR. Not a day 1-purchase for me anymore, so it will probably not be bought at all.

This is just making me wish I'd bought Space Hulk.

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

guru wrote:
100€....

*heart sinks*

Well forget that...

Yeah, that's exactly how I feel. Could have been an ideal gateway game to spread far and wide with a lot of scope for expansions (Genestealer Cult, Rogue Imperial Commanders, Radical Inquisitors).

What a complete and total waste of an opportunity.

Seems to be GWs calling card atm. Awesome ideas with a lacking execution.

 ImAGeek wrote:
Seems to be GWs calling card atm. Awesome ideas with a lacking execution.

I'd go further. They're lacking not just in Execution but also lacking in ambition, having a clue, knowledge of the market, Vision, long term strategy...

Damn, thats terrible. I was so excited about this game. It is such a farce that it actually makes me less willing to buy anything from gw, since it seems that they have no respect for their customers

I like the board, the tile art is nice. Event cards, character cards. Co-op is a welcome game mode :-(

I was going to get either this or imperial assault pay day....mind now made up and the force isn't strong in this one.

It is sad. I love Space Hulk. Obviously, with that being a success, the order went down to craft a follow up (and stint, just a little bit).

As the immortal Derek Smalls once said, "It's such a fine line between clever and stupid. "

guru wrote:
100€....



vs



...GW has lost the plot.

Shh, quiet. Someone will be along shortly to tell you how wrong you are.

ImAGeek wrote:This is just making me wish I'd bought Space Hulk.

Me too. What's the opposite of buyers remorse?!

 monders wrote:

ImAGeek wrote:This is just making me wish I'd bought Space Hulk.

Me too. What's the opposite of buyers remorse?!

Why not just buy it? I saw plenty of them going for close to RRP on eBay.

I myself have a box for sale, since I was so paranoid that I will not manage to get a hold of one, I ended up with two.

This game looks like the worst value ever.

Clutching at straws here, but maybe there's stuff printed on the other side of those gaming tiles

Pre pre-ordered from a retailer already. I was holding on buying assassin since the rumor of a box game with new sculpt was around the web.

I still think the value is pretty good (if you want all 4 of them) considering buying all of the 4 assassins minis will probably be around a 80-100$. In my case I really wanted to add them all to my collection and use them against my friends in our games when applicable. I've also bought Space Hulk last time it came back and there is no denying that Space Hulk is far better when it comes to value.

Since I've bought Dark Vengeance when I started playing W40K a year ago I will be adding the Cultist/Chaos Marine and Lord/Sorcerer whatever they call him to my already existing set that I've just finished to paint because I was so bored of painting green after a whole company and then black/bone for the two wings I am currently doing.

As for the standalone game, I think it will be interesting, especially since my main opponent is far, far more interested in coop games in general rather than PVP and he already showed far too much interest to play it since the rumor started.

Maybe I'll end up doing a small Zone Mortalis/Space Hulk/Assassinorum table after all I was already considering building a Space Hulk/Zone Mortalis before this.

Haljin wrote:

 monders wrote:

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ImAGeek wrote:This is just making me wish I'd bought Space Hulk.

Me too. What's the opposite of buyers remorse?!

@Monders: just on the first page of an eBay search for 'space hulk' for between £80 and £100. Bit more than RRP, but if you have the cash and the inclination it's worth it!

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 monders wrote:

ImAGeek wrote:This is just making me wish I'd bought Space Hulk.

Me too. What's the opposite of buyers remorse?!

Look up a shop called Antics in Plymouth. They've got a couple of copies left. Be quick, others may read this thread.

http://www.anticsonline.co.uk/

Cheers alphaecho!

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I'm still getting one. Even if you were extremely optimistic and pegged the assassins at £10/each, it's £35 for all the chaos models and the board game part (which everyone's dismissing as crap, but honestly, who knows? Might be good). As it stands plastic characters from GW are more likely to be £16 ish, making all the extra chaos models and the board game parts about a tenner extra. Go to your favourite discounter and the overall cost is going to be £60, anyway, which is better yet.

Sure, it wouldn't appeal to me if I didn't want the models and/or had judged that the board game would be crap before anyone's played it, but what kind of prosaic non-point is that?

 Bull0 wrote:
I'm still getting one. Even if you were extremely optimistic and pegged the assassins at £10/each, it's £35 for all the chaos models and the board game part (which everyone's dismissing as crap, but honestly, who knows? Might be good). As it stands plastic characters from GW are more likely to be £16 ish, making all the extra chaos models and the board game parts about a tenner extra. Go to your favourite discounter and the overall cost is going to be £60, anyway, which is better yet.

Sure, it wouldn't appeal to me if I didn't want the models and/or had judged that the board game would be crap before anyone's played it, but what kind of prosaic non-point is that?

No one dismissed the board game as crap, but we don't know do we, and £75 is a lot to spend on a gamble, especially as they might sell out before we know what the game is actually like.

Disagree - there's a ton of really dismissive comments here. You're right, we don't really know if it'll be any good or not, but we've got people saying "Oh well, so much for that", "Huge wasted opportunity", etc, etc

Not about the actual game, about the price and what you get.

If anyone ever bought GW at retail, complaining about the price with this one... hypocrisy.
The content of the game is appropriate if you deduct the retail cost for the models... Heck, it's FREE if you deduct the cost of the models.