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 Thairne wrote:
If anyone ever bought GW at retail, complaining about the price with this one... hypocrisy.
The content of the game is appropriate if you deduct the retail cost for the models... Heck, it's FREE if you deduct the cost of the models.

Exactly. Thank you.

I think most people just grumble because either a) their hobby budget can't afford it (hey, I can't afford another box of guardsmen at this point, but that's not GW's fault!) or b) it just makes them feel better when they hit that "pre-order" button on the webstore.

The assassins are neat, but the CSM are recycled crap from the Chaos range. Meh...

Unlike Space Hulk, this is not really worth buying for the minis alone, IMO. That is, unless you want all 4 Assassins.

It needs to be as good as SH. GW needs to justify their prices now, another good board game will do it.

Yeah I have a lot of disposable income and have given a boatload of money already to GW.

Hell yes I will grumble. And then go buy even more stuff from forgeworld. Grumble grumble grumble

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
The assassins are neat, but the CSM are recycled crap from the Chaos range. Meh...

Unlike Space Hulk, this is not really worth buying for the minis alone, IMO. That is, unless you want all 4 Assassins.

I plan on picking it up for a couple of reasons. 1: I want the assassin models. 2: I'd enjoy the game itself no matter what as it's a lot easier to get a friend who's not into the hobby to play a little boardgame like that instead of a massive 2k point 40k game. Not to mention it might help me to get them into the hobby proper. 3: I'll be able to find a use for the Chaos stuff no matter what, so not really a loss there.

Well its up on the New Zealand website - price is a hurt point here down under:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-NZ/...xecution-Force


and now on the Aussie site $210:

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-AU/Assassinorum-Execution-Force

aw_man wrote:
It needs to be as good as SH. GW needs to justify their prices now, another good board game will do it.

Yeah I have a lot of disposable income and have given a boatload of money already to GW.

Hell yes I will grumble. And then go buy even more stuff from forgeworld. Grumble grumble grumble

The 2014 Space Hulk release was the best deal on models ever by GW. However, do you remember when Space Hulk with the current product line first came out? It was like, $300. Last year was a re-release (I think with 1 more mission?), so it would make sense that it's cheaper.

 Talys wrote:

aw_man wrote:
It needs to be as good as SH. GW needs to justify their prices now, another good board game will do it.

Yeah I have a lot of disposable income and have given a boatload of money already to GW.

Hell yes I will grumble. And then go buy even more stuff from forgeworld. Grumble grumble grumble

Do you remember when Space Hulk with the current product line first came out? It was like, $300. Last year was a re-release (I think with 1 more mission?), so it would make sense that it's cheaper.

Wait, what? Space Hulk was $100 when it came out in 2009. Am I misunderstanding what you're saying?

lolwut $210 AUD?


Yeah, no.

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
lolwut $210 AUD?


Yeah, no.

Pretty much mate. 100 Euro, 210 AUD. Seems legit. Off the top of my head, that's a 50% Australian Tax right there...

Almost exactly right, 51% markup.

I never expected GW to ever mark it up that high... Was expecting it to be $180 at most (still terribly priced, but not as WTF worthy)

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
lolwut $210 AUD?

Yeah... feth that noise.

The more I think of it, the more I realize how genius this game is as a business move from GW.

They have a bunch of new assassin plastics and a data slate to sell, so what do they do?

Option 1: Sell clam-packs for 25$ US a pop? No, no, no... That's too easy. People would only buy the assassin they want. And they may not be crazy about the price...

Option 2: Design a well-thought-out game with lots of miniatures, new enemies and SH style game board. Sweet idea, but that would cost a lot to produce. A lot more money would have to be spent on designing and casting enemy units, not to mention the game would cost at least 50% more... so this is no good.

Option 3: Design a standard board game, fill it with overstock old miniatures to justify the "value" include all the assassins in these, and run these as an exclusive until they sell out. Sure, people will moan about the price, and the figure selection but enough will buy it to generate a cozy profit. Once you've milked this demographic, release assassins as separate clam packs and watch people get excited about buying the figures "on the cheap". Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!!!!! We've got ourselves a winner ladies and gents!

What is there to lose in this strategy? Nothing. Good on you GW!

The same price in Canada and all our stuff comes from US because we don't have GW Canada anymore. But then again, our dollar has lost a lot due to the oil prices.

P.S. Upon closer inspection that Culexus is ugly as sin and will need a major head surgery should I decide to buy him separately. How the hell is he supposed to sneak in and out with all that jazz married to his face?

 Hive City Dweller wrote:
The more I think of it, the more I realize how genius this game is as a business move from GW.

They have a bunch of new assassin plastics and a data slate to sell, so what do they do?

Option 1: Sell clam-packs for 25$ US a pop? No, no, no... That's too easy. People would only buy the assassin they want. And they may not be crazy about the price...

Option 2: Design a well-thought-out game with lots of miniatures, new enemies and SH style game board. Sweet idea, but that would cost a lot to produce. A lot more money would have to be spent on designing and casting enemy units, not to mention the game would cost at least 50% more... so this is no good.

Option 3: Design a standard board game, fill it with overstock old miniatures to justify the "value" include all the assassins in these, and run these as an exclusive until they sell out. Sure, people will moan about the price, and the figure selection but enough will buy it to generate a cozy profit. Once you've milked this demographic, release assassins as separate clam packs and watch people get excited about buying the figures "on the cheap". Ding-ding-ding-ding-ding!!!!! We've got ourselves a winner ladies and gents!

What is there to lose in this strategy? Nothing. Good on you GW!

Options 2 and 3 may overlap. It could be a well thought out fun game that had to keep to a tight budget. I have visions of someone at the Design Studio begging at the bean counter altar for the chance to put the Games back in GW but only being given a miniscule budget.

Apart from GW's high pricing, no-one loses in Option 3. If somebody wants all 4 assassins AND a game, they can. If someone just wants all 4 assassins or just the Eversor, they buy it later. If you don't want the new ones, make your own as shown earlier in the thread or buy old metals.

I just hope there's nothing in the WD stating these assassins are only available via this box set as they did with the plastic Terminator Captain.

Yeah I wasn't too impressed with the thing they did for the Terminator Captain. That was ridiculous. Does anyone actually have that model?

To all the aussies complaining about price. Nz is 248 and considering our currency is almost 1:1 now. Us kiwis can say we have the highest gw price in the world haha. Count yourselves lucky!

Yikes, 73% markup.

GW must either really love the NZD and AUD or really hate them.

Those are scary prices for our Antipodean brethren, even when the discounters get their markdowns in I have only seen it as low as $170 in Aus (plus $12 p and p).

alphaecho wrote:
I just hope there's nothing in the WD stating these assassins are only available via this box set as they did with the plastic Terminator Captain.

I really hope they're going to release them separately as the rumours have previously indicated but this line in the product description is moderately worrying -

Included in the box are four beautiful, exclusive Imperial Assassin miniatures

Oh, and this

This is available while stocks last - given the quality of the game, and that this is the only place to get the Imperial Assassin miniatures deployable in Warhammer 40,000, we don’t expect these stocks to last long at all!

:/

I'm predicting that stock will last a while on this one

Which doesn't really matter much with regards to the question of whether or not they're going to release the assassins individually. Although it does indicate they should be reasonable on ebay if the scarcity isn't going to be a big factor.

 Bull0 wrote:

alphaecho wrote:
I just hope there's nothing in the WD stating these assassins are only available via this box set as they did with the plastic Terminator Captain.

I really hope they're going to release them separately as the rumours have previously indicated but this line in the product description is moderately worrying -

Included in the box are four beautiful, exclusive Imperial Assassin miniatures

Oh, and this


:/

The GW email states "this is currently the only way to get hold of these sought after miniatures". Seems like they are leaving themselves open for an individual release.

Up on the UK site now-
http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Assassinorum-Execution-Force

£75

Nice minis and I may pick up the Callidus separately one day, but not via this game.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:

 Bull0 wrote:

alphaecho wrote:
I just hope there's nothing in the WD stating these assassins are only available via this box set as they did with the plastic Terminator Captain.

I really hope they're going to release them separately as the rumours have previously indicated but this line in the product description is moderately worrying -

Included in the box are four beautiful, exclusive Imperial Assassin miniatures

Oh, and this


:/

The GW email states "this is currently the only way to get hold of these sought after miniatures". Seems like they are leaving themselves open for an individual release.

You're right, I just noticed that. Relief! I mean, I've bought the game anyway, but I was getting ready to be bummed on behalf of the people that want the individual models

It says in the promotional email " Currently " the only way to get these figures.

Oh ninja'd

 NuggzTheNinja wrote:
The assassins are neat, but the CSM are recycled crap from the Chaos range. Meh...

Unlike Space Hulk, this is not really worth buying for the minis alone, IMO. That is, unless you want all 4 Assassins.

This is actualy a nice way to make people who relly want it actually be able to order one
before the preorders are sold out to guys aiming to just resell them on e-bay.

Wonder if the tiles from the old Rackham Hybrid game are about the right thickness?
They could fit with the aesthetic of these tiles...

https://boardgamegeek.com/image/40252/hybrid?size=original

Well, it looks like GW have ruined my business venture.

In the past with Spacehulk and dreadfleet, I could snap up a few copies (annoying other people in the process ) sit on them for a while, paint them up, and then sell them for vastly inflated prices.

Nobody wants to buy this, so I won't be pre-ordering 3 copies. Damn you GW

 Talys wrote:

aw_man wrote:
It needs to be as good as SH. GW needs to justify their prices now, another good board game will do it.

Yeah I have a lot of disposable income and have given a boatload of money already to GW.

Hell yes I will grumble. And then go buy even more stuff from forgeworld. Grumble grumble grumble

The 2014 Space Hulk release was the best deal on models ever by GW. However, do you remember when Space Hulk with the current product line first came out? It was like, $300. Last year was a re-release (I think with 1 more mission?), so it would make sense that it's cheaper.

The first time this edition of Space Hulk came out, it was £60 if I remember rightly, and the rerelease with the extra missions was £75 in 2014. So the rerelease was more expensive.