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This has deteriorated into an obvious troll thread. We've fed it enough.

 Lutharr101 wrote:

 Gamgee wrote:
You guys sound so soft. Just guzzling GW dick and the Eldars too it seems.

You'll roll over and take it any day of the week from GW as long as they bring your plastic crack huh?

grow up

Grow down.

People missed my edit so here it is.

This is a reality check, but in the REAL WORLD we do things very differently than the battered house wives of GW. We can talk to companies and engage them. If any other company did this gak to its customers it would be at least worth a few internet opinion articles and some interviews. The funny thing is while everyone here is rolling over at the first sign of nothing I've taken part in two successful campaigns like this to get companies to stop being dicks. It is possible.

MechWarrior Online was only partially successful, but it was successful enough that the people who ruined and fethed up MWO tried to launch a fundraiser for a new game and it never got take off. Prior to this they were raking in 5 million from early backers.

Mass Effect 3 Ending. This was completely successful. We got on national news and got them to change the ending of the trilogy. Yes it was that fething bad.

I don't see why anyone here can't accomplish the same things. Unless as I said they are plastic crack whores.

 Doctadeth wrote:
If people feed the problem, its just going to escalate. We as gamers need to try and get GW to address this sort of release, rather than putting up with broken codices and races.

This to me, just shows how desperate GW is for major sales at the moment.

Well since cover is looking pretty favorable right now its oddly convenient GW rolled out the Promethium Relay Pipe when they did.

Guys please keep the discussion polite, per Rule Number One. Thanks!

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
This has deteriorated into an obvious troll thread. We've fed it enough.

while I agree the Eldar codex is ridiculously cheesey I must agree with you on this. Seems the culture of feet stamping just grows more and more each day

 Lutharr101 wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
This has deteriorated into an obvious troll thread. We've fed it enough.

while I agree the Eldar codex is ridiculously cheesey I must agree with you on this. Seems the culture of feet stamping just grows more and more each day

The irony is insane. Feet stamping indeed. Just not the kind your imagining. The defeated shuffling march of feet on the ground to the tune of GW. So entrenched in their ways when someone actually suggests a way to improve it they don't even bother critically analyzing it. They just bring out the automatic responses. Certainly few here with any fire left in them. Now that is ironic for a group of people who enjoy a grim dark future with nothing but fighting that there isn't an an ounce of fight in them.

The Imperial Answer wrote:
To be honest have any games even been played against the new Eldar Codex yet ?

I don't think its even reached the hands of that many Eldar players yet.

If you saw a reaver Titan for 1 point, would you need to play a game to know that it's blatantly OP and probably going to make the game super-one-sided?

Please lock this thread so we can stop listening to this troll cry about something he has no control over, clearly a troll thread. Done posting and trying to talk to a hater crying about a book not even released.

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
This has deteriorated into an obvious troll thread. We've fed it enough.

You think this is bad, you should see 4chan's 40k General.

The Entropy there would make the powers of the C'tan seem like cheap parlor tricks.

The Imperial Answer wrote:

 SharkoutofWata wrote:
This has deteriorated into an obvious troll thread. We've fed it enough.

You think this is bad, you should see 4chan's 40k General.

The Entropy there would make the powers of the C'tan seem like cheap parlor tricks.

Ugh so ironic. When this is nothing but people bowing down to Nurgle on this thread. Giving up. Surrendering. It's such an easy existence to be in the thrall of GW. 4chan is the opposite of entropy. Endless change. Too much change. Not enough solid force to have a direction.

The thing is people are not bowing down. They just aint all wanting to follow some whiny muppet

 Lutharr101 wrote:
The thing is people are not bowing down. They just aint all wanting to follow some whiny muppet

Standard response 07 *yawn*

Yah the I can quit smoking any time I want excuse. Heard that one a million times.

When did people become so predictable? It's like I'm watching a script.

Lol signed. My brother in law is an Eldar Cheeselord, already told him to not even bother asking me for a game if he mass cheese lists.

 Rippy wrote:
Lol signed. My brother in law is an Eldar Cheeselord, already told him to not even bother asking me for a game if he mass cheese lists.

Welcome aboard. Spread the word. We're now 4 strong. Added you to the front page.

@Thread in general
Also I must say I'm really shocked not to have been banned so far. Most people would have written me off as an obvious troll. So I've gotten further than I expected. A small victory for me.

 Rippy wrote:
Lol signed. My brother in law is an Eldar Cheeselord, already told him to not even bother asking me for a game if he mass cheese lists.

Is this normal cheesing it or is it the "with 200% more of the reinforced Lactose Block" cheesing it ?

How about just letting Games Workshop know how badly the rules are written. Through your wallet and your own actions rather than doing nothing and encouraging the writing of proliferation codexes.

The point is, if we do nothing, we encourage more of the same. So we need action.

The Imperial Answer wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
Lol signed. My brother in law is an Eldar Cheeselord, already told him to not even bother asking me for a game if he mass cheese lists.

Is this normal cheesing it or is it the "with 200% more of the reinforced Lactose Block" cheesing it ?

He would be the CEO of Kraft Cheese if I would let him.

 Doctadeth wrote:
How about just letting Games Workshop know how badly the rules are written. Through your wallet and your own actions rather than doing nothing and encouraging the writing of proliferation codexes.

The point is, if we do nothing, we encourage more of the same. So we need action.

Shouldn't we wait for the codex to drop before we being taking action ?

As I understand it hasn't reached mass distribution yet.

The Imperial Answer wrote:

 Doctadeth wrote:
How about just letting Games Workshop know how badly the rules are written. Through your wallet and your own actions rather than doing nothing and encouraging the writing of proliferation codexes.

The point is, if we do nothing, we encourage more of the same. So we need action.

Shouldn't we wait for the codex to drop before we being taking action ?

As I understand it hasn't reached mass distribution yet.

I think they mean if at anytime you dont like their results, you should write to them.

We just need to face it. 40k has evolved into an addiction. Just look at the responses to any complaints legitimate or otherwise are immediately met with an aggressive response to defend the habit.

Again, we got the info from a source thats reliable. If we delay release, it gives time for rules to get revised. Perhaps that evening on grass or meth could be looked over.

 Rippy wrote:

The Imperial Answer wrote:

 Rippy wrote:
Lol signed. My brother in law is an Eldar Cheeselord, already told him to not even bother asking me for a game if he mass cheese lists.

Is this normal cheesing it or is it the "with 200% more of the reinforced Lactose Block" cheesing it ?

He would be the CEO of Kraft Cheese if I would let him.

Oh wow.

For some odd reason I imagined cheese print blast markers when I read that.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
We just need to face it. 40k has evolved into an addiction. Just look at the responses to any complaints legitimate or otherwise are immediately met with an aggressive response to defend the habit.

Calm down chops, people can be passionate about ther hobby without your petty labels being thrown at them.


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 Doctadeth wrote:
Again, we got the info from a source thats reliable. If we delay release, it gives time for rules to get revised. Perhaps that evening on grass or meth could be looked over.

They would NOT change the print this late. The best you can hope for is an errata.

Well the Limited Edition Codex has sold out so that's an easy 100k there lol.

Thinking of collecting an Eldar army myself following all the rage Would go nicely with my DEldar

Its not a petty label steaks (?). This codex is going to be a huge success for GW. Because despite it being a horrible an blatant symbol of the problems with 40k people be will incapable of not throwing hundreds of dollars at this release.

Just look at pointless special editions that are more expensive verisons of the codex. Yet people go ham for them.

Its very similar to WoW. Create a culture were people feel the need to spend money constantly to keep pace. Blizzard figured it out and so has GW.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Its not a petty label steaks (?). This codex is going to be a huge success for GW. Because despite it being a horrible an blatant symbol of the problems with 40k people will incapable of not throwing hundreds of dollars at this release.

Or throwing money at things to counter it.

Some armies don't even have counters. Thats the problem. Sure, there are ways to try and counter those lists, but veteran eldar players are just going to pound everyone.

 Doctadeth wrote:
Some armies don't even have counters. Thats the problem. Sure, there are ways to try and counter those lists, but veteran eldar players are just going to pound everyone.

But that isn't going to stop some people from trying to counter it.

Either way GW is turning a profit (unknowingly or intentionally is up for debate) from people either seeking the new Eldar Codex or those seeking to counter it (assuming a purchase is made from GW in either case).

Exactly right now people are building lists that will cost them hundreds of dollars to try an keep up with the Eldar. Or they will buy Eldar to be on the level.

Going by Necrons and now Eldar if Tau and Space Marines go over the top then it will be confirmed. GW will have learned the formula. They will have created a culture that requires people to perpetually spend money or fall behind the curve. An those that get hooked will have to defend the habit in order to justify the expense.

Lol .... :(

 BrotherGecko wrote:
We just need to face it. 40k has evolved into an addiction. Just look at the responses to any complaints legitimate or otherwise are immediately met with an aggressive response to defend the habit.

Indeed. I'm not saying we need to get rid of 40k. Hell I like it too, but it could be so much more for everyone. I didn't say I wanted Eldar banned forever. I just want this codex banned to show them how wrong it was to make something this obscenely powerful compared to everything else.

@Thread in General
Who knows this could all be for nothing. The codex "could" be balanced. But we know it's not. We have reliable sources on all websites about unit stats. The news came so fast because of this huge controversy. Also the funny thing is. The MWO and the ME3 Ending campaigns were successful because we didn't fight politely and send nice polite letters in a thankful tone. WE GOT MAD! We threw a fit and a tantrum. We combined logical arguments with an emotional response and the effect was quite dramatic.

Once wider distribution of the new Eldar Codex is upon us we can dissect it further in greater detail and have in depth detail examples how broken it is compared to every other codex. Why this codex needs to be changed.

@ The guy who's name I forget.
It's been over 5 minutes and it's not dead. So what are you going to move the goalposts to 10 minutes? 1 hour? 10? I'll be waiting.