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 d-usa wrote:
 Ouze wrote:

How these guys skated on brandishing charges, at a minimum, will forever remain a mystery to me.




White privilege.


How many federal agents were injured at the Bundy ranch vs. how many cops were injured or killed in Baltimore or Fergeson?
   
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 Ouze wrote:
You're building up a great strawman argument; since I never claimed things you are claiming I said. Whembly said he thought they were just carrying firearms, and I pointed out at least some of them pointed them.

It was more than one, but I feel like gathering more evidence might not be the best use of my time since you seem like you believe what you want to believe.


Okay.

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Relapse wrote:
How many federal agents were injured at the Bundy ranch vs. how many cops were injured or killed in Baltimore or Fergeson?


Is that the metric we use to charge people with brandishing?

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 Ouze wrote:
Relapse wrote:
How many federal agents were injured at the Bundy ranch vs. how many cops were injured or killed in Baltimore or Fergeson?


Is that the metric we use to charge people with brandishing?



You hung on brandishing weapons aren't you

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Pleasant Valley, Iowa

Well, I try to be consistent

It irritates me to no end that the purposes of justice and rule of law were trumped by political expediency as they were at the Bundy ranch.

Anyway, sorry for offtracking this so badly.

 lord_blackfang wrote:
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Outsiders be coming... stay safe!


We already knew that... Al Sharpton said he was comin' on page one of this thread
   
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Eesshhh Guardsmen/women are on seven day orders. With blank date orders already made for a following seven days.

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This guy is awesome. Ignore the title - the speaker in the video is entertaining.


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 Ouze wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
I thought the Bundy supporters were just carrying weapons, and didn't actually point them at federal agents?



... are you asking this 3 posts after I posted a picture of a guy pointing a rifle at BLM agents? I feel like there's a subtle joke here I'm not getting.

Those white trucks in the picture are the BLM.



How can you tell he is aiming at the trucks and not at the berm?


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 d-usa wrote:
 Ouze wrote:

How these guys skated on brandishing charges, at a minimum, will forever remain a mystery to me.




White privilege.



Carrying a rifle in a sling isn't brandishing, and there have been plenty of pro-2nd Amendment and pro-self-denfense groups who have shown up at large protests doing the same thing, both white and black who haven't been charged with brandishing.

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 Hordini wrote:
Carrying a rifle in a sling isn't brandishing, and there have been plenty of pro-2nd Amendment and pro-self-denfense groups who have shown up at large protests doing the same thing, both white and black who haven't been charged with brandishing.



... but that's not what he was doing. It was unslung, and pointed at people.

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 Ouze wrote:
You're building up a great strawman argument; since I never claimed things you are claiming I said. Whembly said he thought they were just carrying firearms, and I posted the above picture. How you took that as some sort of indictment of every single person there is unknown to me.

It was more than one, but I feel like gathering more evidence might not be the best use of my time since you seem like you believe what you want to believe. I mean, you posted a picture of a cop pointing a taser at the protesters like that makes it even stevens despite the fact the police officer is pointing it at someone who just charged them and are screaming threats and that and he's a fething law enforcement officer authorized to use force by the state in exactly that situation.



Nice try.

 d-usa wrote:
 Ouze wrote:

How these guys skated on brandishing charges, at a minimum, will forever remain a mystery to me.




White privilege.


You seem to be STRONGLY implying "These Guys" was the group, and definitely more than The Guy pointing a weapon.


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 Ouze wrote:
 Hordini wrote:
Carrying a rifle in a sling isn't brandishing, and there have been plenty of pro-2nd Amendment and pro-self-denfense groups who have shown up at large protests doing the same thing, both white and black who haven't been charged with brandishing.



... but that's not what he was doing. It was unslung, and pointed at people.



Just to be clear, are you talking about the picture with the guy standing, or the picture with the guy in the prone?

   
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 whembly wrote:
This vet ain't putting up with this gak!


Was the Mayor taken to task for that coded racial language?


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 Ouze wrote:
How these guys skated on brandishing charges, at a minimum, will forever remain a mystery to me.

You mean like how Michael Brown's step father escaped inciting a riot charge for urging supporters to "Burn this motherf***er down!"?

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Correction

2K National Guardsmen/women and 1K LEO's be in Baltimore tonight

Edit

Well.......surprise no one screaming for CPS for the mom slapping her son

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 Ouze wrote:
Well, I try to be consistent

It irritates me to no end that the purposes of justice and rule of law were trumped by political expediency as they were at the Bundy ranch.

Anyway, sorry for offtracking this so badly.

For your information; http://www.shouselaw.com/nevada/knives-brandishing.html
Drawing or brandishing a weapon is a crime in Nevada if all of the following conditions are met:

The weapon is a deadly weapon, such as dirks, dirk-knifes, swords, sword canes, pistols, or guns;
AND
The drawing or brandishing of the weapon occurs in the presence of at least two (2) other people;
AND
The weapon is drawn, brandished, or exhibited in a rude, angry, or threatening manner


This might clarify why certain individuals were not arrested/charged as not all the elements of the crime were present. Every state's law varies so confusion may be inevitable. Indiana for example has no brandishing law.

 
   
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So they had a deadly weapon
AND
It was drawn in the presence of at least two other people
AND
It was drawn by people who were rude, angry and threatening and ready, by their own admission, to kill the officer it was pointed at.

And why was nobody charged?
   
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 d-usa wrote:
So they had a deadly weapon
AND
It was drawn in the presence of at least two other people
AND
It was drawn by people who were rude, angry and threatening and ready, by their own admission, to kill the officer it was pointed at.

And why was nobody charged?

1.) #whataboutery
2.) Who? When? Where? Be specific.

 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
So they had a deadly weapon
AND
It was drawn in the presence of at least two other people
AND
It was drawn by people who were rude, angry and threatening and ready, by their own admission, to kill the officer it was pointed at.

And why was nobody charged?

1.) #whataboutery
2.) Who? When? Where? Be specific.


The guy in the prone who was hidden behind the jersey barrier. With a rifle pointed in the direction of BLM.

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

1.) #whataboutery


Indeed.

 Dreadclaw69 wrote:

You mean like how Michael Brown's step father escaped inciting a riot charge for urging supporters to "Burn this motherf***er down!"?

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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
So they had a deadly weapon
AND
It was drawn in the presence of at least two other people
AND
It was drawn by people who were rude, angry and threatening and ready, by their own admission, to kill the officer it was pointed at.

And why was nobody charged?

1.) #whataboutery
2.) Who? When? Where? Be specific.


Sorry, I had assumed you were reading the thread:



I also assume that you can count, at least past two. But if I need to hit up MS paint and paint a #1 and #2 to any of the random people in the picture who are present with either of the men holding one of those "pew pew" machines that qualifies as a deadly weapon please let me know so I can assist you with the mathematics.

   
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 Jihadin wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
So they had a deadly weapon
AND
It was drawn in the presence of at least two other people
AND
It was drawn by people who were rude, angry and threatening and ready, by their own admission, to kill the officer it was pointed at.

And why was nobody charged?

1.) #whataboutery
2.) Who? When? Where? Be specific.


The guy in the prone who was hidden behind the jersey barrier. With a rifle pointed in the direction of BLM.

"In the direction of". D specifically said that the person intended "to kill the officer it was pointed at", so which officer/agent was it pointed at?

 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
So they had a deadly weapon
AND
It was drawn in the presence of at least two other people
AND
It was drawn by people who were rude, angry and threatening and ready, by their own admission, to kill the officer it was pointed at.

And why was nobody charged?

1.) #whataboutery
2.) Who? When? Where? Be specific.


The guy in the prone who was hidden behind the jersey barrier. With a rifle pointed in the direction of BLM.

"In the direction of". D specifically said that the person intended "to kill the officer it was pointed at", so which officer/agent was it pointed at?


I'm sure they can ask him. Maybe the reporter that was next to him and witnessed the conversation on the radio where he stated that he had them in his sight and is ready to fire if needed could assist.

   
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 d-usa wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
So they had a deadly weapon
AND
It was drawn in the presence of at least two other people
AND
It was drawn by people who were rude, angry and threatening and ready, by their own admission, to kill the officer it was pointed at.

And why was nobody charged?

1.) #whataboutery
2.) Who? When? Where? Be specific.


Sorry, I had assumed you were reading the thread:



I also assume that you can count, at least past two. But if I need to hit up MS paint and paint a #1 and #2 to any of the random people in the picture who are present with either of the men holding one of those "pew pew" machines that qualifies as a deadly weapon please let me know so I can assist you with the mathematics.


Your snark, and comment about white privilege, is far from helpful.
What specifically do you find "rude, angry, or threatening manner" in those images?

 
   
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 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 Jihadin wrote:
 Dreadclaw69 wrote:
 d-usa wrote:
So they had a deadly weapon
AND
It was drawn in the presence of at least two other people
AND
It was drawn by people who were rude, angry and threatening and ready, by their own admission, to kill the officer it was pointed at.

And why was nobody charged?

1.) #whataboutery
2.) Who? When? Where? Be specific.


The guy in the prone who was hidden behind the jersey barrier. With a rifle pointed in the direction of BLM.

"In the direction of". D specifically said that the person intended "to kill the officer it was pointed at", so which officer/agent was it pointed at?


Why I pointed that out to Ouze. Pointed in the direction "Of" BLM.
Highly doubtful BLM/LEO even knew he was there in the prone behind Jersey Barriers.

A Jersey Barrier is the cement blocks he was behind in case some do not know what they are

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 d-usa wrote:
I'm sure they can ask him. Maybe the reporter that was next to him and witnessed the conversation on the radio where he stated that he had them in his sight and is ready to fire if needed could assist.

Link please.

 
   
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1 chance to stay on topic and polite, or the thread disappears and you all have to sit there and not talk about the riots in the OT for a good few days. Consider your choices.

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 Jihadin wrote:

Well.......surprise no one screaming for CPS for the mom slapping her son




Honestly, I think all the other rioting kids were saying "Dayyyum.... Good thing that ain't my momma!" and any cops that may have been there woulda been sayin, "Ohh thank god someone's doing something about all this!"


That, and I'm sure that we could point out many relevant stereotypes in that one single video... so I don't think we really need to go over them
   
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Is it the Mayor who's in overall command in Baltimore?

Edit

As in the LEO's and Guardsmen/women are waiting for the command from her or the Governor

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Curb stomping in the Eye of Terror!

Tear gas has been deployed... looks like it's a bit calmer now. Even seen people getting other folks to go home.

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Mostly white smoke though.

Think those are Caiman MRAP's.

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