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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/28 22:22:46
Subject: Super heavy tanks legal?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Somewhat confused with the constant changes to super-heavy vehicles, apocalypse, Lords of War, not to mention the endless codices that have the rules for these various vehicles.
Are vehicles such as Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer, Typhon Heavy Siege Tank, Fellblade etc. now legal in a 40k game?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/28 22:24:17
Subject: Super heavy tanks legal?
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Legendary Master of the Chapter
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If it has Lord of war stamp next to its entry than yes.
Entirely legal so long as you meet the army list requirements and or go unbound and stuff.
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Unit1126PLL wrote: Scott-S6 wrote:And yet another thread is hijacked for Unit to ask for the same advice, receive the same answers and make the same excuses.
Oh my god I'm becoming martel.
Send help!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/28 22:29:28
Subject: Re:Super heavy tanks legal?
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Gotcha. I just checked my codex and the Cerberus has LoW stamp as well (even though it has super-heavy stamped as well) so I guess that one is good to go! Thanks.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/28 22:37:29
Subject: Super heavy tanks legal?
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pr0wler wrote:Somewhat confused with the constant changes to super-heavy vehicles, apocalypse, Lords of War, not to mention the endless codices that have the rules for these various vehicles.
Apocalypse gave us our 1st update on super heavies for 6th edition. Then escalation repeated those rule and introduced us to the lord of war battlefield role so those super heavies could be taken in non-apocalypse games. When the 7th edition rules came out they updated the rules a little. All of the other 6th edition books with those rules have an FAQ telling you to use the rules in the 7th edition BRB.
Are vehicles such as Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer, Typhon Heavy Siege Tank, Fellblade etc. now legal in a 40k game?
Short answer, yes. Long anwser, they are as legal as any other datasheet written for 40k by a 3rd party. Forgeworld being owned by games workshop gives them WAY more street credit though so those datasheets tend to be widely accepted. All the datasheets you mentioned can be found in Imperial Armour II 2nd edition. That book was written and published to follow 7th edition rules so those units are good as printed, no FAQ needed. The battlefield role can be found on their datasheets.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/28 23:17:12
Subject: Super heavy tanks legal?
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Gore-Soaked Lunatic Witchhunter
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If you want to be particularly hardcore about it models with the Lord of War symbol on their datasheet (the Typhon, Cerberus, Fellblade, et cetera) and superheavies in Codexes (Stompas, Knights) are legal in standard games, Escalation content (Baneblade chassis, Thunderhawk, Revenant, et cetera) is legal in games you've agreed are using Escalation. Superheavies that are from none of those sources and not marked with the Lord of War icon (which there aren't a lot of; Marauder, Phantom, Vampire, Gargantuan Squiggoth, a few more) aren't permitted without your opponent's permission.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/28 23:25:41
Subject: Super heavy tanks legal?
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Prescient Cryptek of Eternity
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DJGietzen wrote: pr0wler wrote:Somewhat confused with the constant changes to super-heavy vehicles, apocalypse, Lords of War, not to mention the endless codices that have the rules for these various vehicles.
Apocalypse gave us our 1st update on super heavies for 6th edition. Then escalation repeated those rule and introduced us to the lord of war battlefield role so those super heavies could be taken in non-apocalypse games. When the 7th edition rules came out they updated the rules a little. All of the other 6th edition books with those rules have an FAQ telling you to use the rules in the 7th edition BRB.
Are vehicles such as Cerberus Heavy Tank Destroyer, Typhon Heavy Siege Tank, Fellblade etc. now legal in a 40k game?
Short answer, yes. Long anwser, they are as legal as any other datasheet written for 40k by a 3rd party. Forgeworld being owned by games workshop gives them WAY more street credit though so those datasheets tend to be widely accepted. All the datasheets you mentioned can be found in Imperial Armour II 2nd edition. That book was written and published to follow 7th edition rules so those units are good as printed, no FAQ needed. The battlefield role can be found on their datasheets.
Forgeworld isn't a 3rd Party. Forgeworld is just one of a couple of Design Studios within Games Workshop.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/04/30 04:00:29
Subject: Super heavy tanks legal?
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Douglas Bader
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AnomanderRake wrote:Superheavies that are from none of those sources and not marked with the Lord of War icon (which there aren't a lot of; Marauder, Phantom, Vampire, Gargantuan Squiggoth, a few more) aren't permitted without your opponent's permission.
The part about "no LoW rule" is accurate, the list of units is not. The FW LoW list adds the "may be taken as a LoW in {army}" rule to all of the units you named. The only superheavy units that are not allowed in normal 40k games with no special permission are a few 30k-only units (which are LoW in 30k games) that don't have 40k rules at all, and a very small number of old Apocalypse units (Warlord/Emperor titans, a couple of Land Raider variants, etc) that were published years ago, never received an official model, and have been abandoned by GW for multiple editions.
Kriswall wrote:Forgeworld isn't a 3rd Party. Forgeworld is just one of a couple of Design Studios within Games Workshop.
Exactly. FW is a brand name used by GW to sell some of their products, just like Citadel or White Dwarf. Their rules are just as official as anything else GW publishes.
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