Reaper Bones 3 Kickstarter - The Update Thread

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**TheAuldGrump**

Chopxsticks wrote:
What do you guys use to prime your bones? I went all out on KS1 and then promptly ebayed them all.. No matter what I tried I could not get paint to stick to them. Deep cleaned them and all. Primer always felt tacky, I let one dry for a week and it still wouldnt hold primer. All the same stuff I use on GW models just fine. I'd love to give them a 2nd chance for the larger stuff but they just suck to much to work with.

I have had very good luck with Army Painter spray primers - which also speed up the painting.

I do start with washing the Bones in soapy water, rinsing them, then letting them dry - then I go with an appropriate color of Army Painter primer. (Flesh primer for barbarians and other undraped humanoids, Necrotic Flesh for some zombies, Bone for skeletons and other zombies, etc..)

They seem to dry without tackiness.

The Auld Grump

**ced1106**

See the Reaper Bones forum for preparation and "first coat" questions: http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/forum/48-bones-miniatures-legendary-encounters/

Bones requires no primer per se, but is hydrophobic, so the conventional layers of paint thinned with water will bead on unpainted Bones.

Myself, I suggest trying underpainting on Bones, such as greyscaling, or blacklining. Try dark brown instead of black on fantasy miniatures. Once you have a coat of acrylic paint on the figure, you can paint as usual.

**timd**

Chopxsticks wrote:
What do you guys use to prime your bones? I went all out on KS1 and then promptly ebayed them all.. No matter what I tried I could not get paint to stick to them. Deep cleaned them and all. Primer always felt tacky, I let one dry for a week and it still wouldnt hold primer. All the same stuff I use on GW models just fine. I'd love to give them a 2nd chance for the larger stuff but they just suck to much to work with.

The Reaper forums have a thread on priming Bones including tests of different primers. I have been using Army Painter colored primers with no tackiness.

T

**Schmapdi**

The one Bones mini I painted worked just fine with my standard Krylon primer.

I did find their "no primer needed" claim a little dubious though. I ended up stripping my first attempt and then priming, worked much better.

**Justyn**

Going to further encourage Army Painter primers with Bones. They dry fantastic.

Their no primer needed is strictly with their own paints as far as I know.

**Taaloc**

I disagree that it is only for Reaper paints and do not use primers on my bones- which is good as I'm out of white primer spray and still haven't bought more.

I use a variety or paint ranges- AP, Vallejo Game Color, P3 and Citadel primarily.

Provided the miniatures are washed thoroughly before painting (I scrub them in warm soapy water with an old toothbrush) and are completely dry before I start painting, all of the above paints have gone on fine, no primer. Just be sparing with them when applying as a base coat as thinning them with water upsets the Bones (I'll admit I haven't tried it with other thinners) After the base coat is on you can do what you want.

I haven't been able to get Vallejo model air or game air to adhere nicely onto the bare Bones, though.

Edit: I have used Army Painter spray primer on them too and they are great

**Da Boss**

Has anyone in the EU ordered from Reaper directly? I am quite keen on the Bones line but as others have noted it's rare and over priced over here.

But making a 70 euro order to qualify for free shipping would actually be a doddle for me, because there is so much I like in the range. But I was thinking about customs charges and the like, and whether it works out as worth it in the end. Any experiences?

I do slightly regret sitting out Bones 1 and 2 because I am the target market, but they are cheap enough at retail that I would be happy enough to pick them up anyway.

**Bioptic**

The only times I've ordered from Reaper directly are their Bones 1&2, and CAV Kickstarters (they have always posted the packages direct from their US warehouse). Without exception, these always get picked up by customs (although that may be more because they are large/heavy).

That being said, every EU country has a different way of handling imports, and it could still end up worthwhile. I'd expect to pay roughly 1.5 times the US price shipped to your door, all told.

**kronk**

ced1106 wrote:

Myself, I suggest trying underpainting on Bones, such as greyscaling, or blacklining.

I don't understand these terms. Is there a tutorial on them?

**NTRabbit**

Sounds a bit like zenithal priming?

Or maybe it's what I'm doing now with my Giants - first coat is undiluted Reaper HD MSP all over with no primer, so anywhere I want to paint something different later ie a vallejo metallic I'm putting a suitable Reaper colour underneath as a base coat first

**-iPaint-**

I've had luck airbrushing slightly diluted black craft paint as a primer, as well as the Vallejo Surface Primers for the couple of figures (out of hundreds) I have in Bones. So far they've held up quite well in handling.

~iPaint

**Sinful Hero**

Welp, guess Reaper is going to part me from a couple Benjamin's this summer.

**Wehrkind**

Anyone try just straight spray on dullcote or something? I haven't yet, but it seems vaguely reasonable.

**rayphoton**

primer is cheaper than dull cote....so i just use primer

**ced1106**

kronk wrote:
ced1106 wrote:

Myself, I suggest trying underpainting on Bones, such as greyscaling, or blacklining.

I don't understand these terms. Is there a tutorial on them?

Sort of -- some colors you'll find difficult to paint, so you want to paint a color underneath them to make them show better. For example, if you want to paint red, you can first paint a layer of pink or flesh, then paint red on top. Greyscaling just means painting the miniature in black, white, and grey, before painting it in color. Blacklining means outlining areas of the miniature (eg. where the arm meets clothing) in a dark color to add contrast. You can use a natural dark brown instead of black. A running joke on the Reaper forums is that, since Brown Liner is commonly used for blacklining and underpainting Bones, the Reaper forum members want a 4 oz. bottle of it in the KS!

If you can't find these terms with a search (including zenithal priming), send me a PM!.

**kronk**

That's very helpful, ced.

I use the underpainting (pink for red, brown for gold metalic) and Blacklining methods often, I just didn't know the proper names for it.

**Da Boss**

Bioptic wrote:
The only times I've ordered from Reaper directly are their Bones 1&2, and CAV Kickstarters (they have always posted the packages direct from their US warehouse). Without exception, these always get picked up by customs (although that may be more because they are large/heavy).

That being said, every EU country has a different way of handling imports, and it could still end up worthwhile. I'd expect to pay roughly 1.5 times the US price shipped to your door, all told.

Thanks! I had a package picked up by the German customs recently, and while I didn't mind paying the fee, their office hours are really inconvenient and required taking time off work to pick up the package, which was quite off putting.

Perhaps if I get it shipped to my parents place in Ireland I will have more luck, since they are only a few minutes from the port.

**JGF**

I was pretty heavily in to the Bones 2 kickstarter after buying a few bones 1 minis just to try out. I am certainly in for the Bones 3 KS as well, but probably much lighter, cherry picking a few sets and the not-tiamat of course.

Basically agree with everything thats been said. I think the Bones material for humanoid/player character type minis is probably 'okay' at best. There are a number of decent to pretty good human sized casts in the KS2 core set but there are still lots that are... so-so... soft details, annoying rubbery weapons, etc. So I don't think I will bother with them anymore. Metal only for that size group. That said I love Love LOVE the medium-large to large bones minis. The giants, demons, and dragons from KS2 are amazing... cheap and great detail, nothing really lost in these casts. And the two massive sets, Khanjira and Dragons Dont Share are fantastic, even more so when you consider what you are paying for them.

So yes, definitely in for Bones3 but will definitely be much more selective.

**ced1106**

Starts July 7th!

Spoiler:

**Nostromodamus**

Sweet! Have they stated a time yet?

**Gamingdog**

Alex C wrote:
Sweet! Have they stated a time yet?

do you mean a specific time on July 7th?

**Sinful Hero**

ced1106 wrote:
Starts July 7th!

Spoiler:

Love how Mr. Bones is holding on to her leg!

Looking forward to adding more to my altar of unpainted minis.

**highlord tamburlaine**

It's like they knew I was traveling and were waiting for me to get home.

Thanks Reaper!

What a perfect excuse for a birthday present too, since mine happens to be the day after this begins...

**Nostromodamus**

Gamingdog wrote:
Alex C wrote:
Sweet! Have they stated a time yet?

do you mean a specific time on July 7th?

Yes.

Edit: Funny how they timed the start date so it begins when Zombicide finishes

**adamsouza**

Alex C wrote:
Funny how they timed the start date so it begins when Zombicide finishes

Marketing Genius.

They'll be a half dozen fans making ID Cards for Zombicide Black Plague for all the Bones 3 hero Figures

**Sinful Hero**

Crossposting- Thabks to Forar

Forar wrote:
Bones 3 has been pushed back, new date TBD.

At the ReaperCon banquet where we announced this originally we had said that we were hoping for a target Launch date of June 8. We've had an amazing week of response and feedback, and one thing we're certain of is that we want to blow you away. So we're pushing that date back a bit now to get even more mind-blowing sculpts made, and to fit in even more things that you have been asking for. We'll have a formal announcement with a better date later, given our increased plans.

http://forum.reapermini.com/index.php?/topic/61593-reaper-miniatures-bones-3/

**Nostromodamus**

New time is July 7th, 11am EST.

**Sinful Hero**

Do Early Birds=First shipped again? I know they had some trouble when they couldn't open new pledge levels fast enough on the last campaign.

**Kid_Kyoto**

A bit of news from their newsletter. Not many details on Bones 3 just heroes, monsters, terrain, nothing unexpected there. No mention of modern/sci-fi so this may (MAY!) turn out to be fantasy only.

They also announced a Kick Starter for their prepainted line Legendary Encounters. Again no details or date but it's coming too.

Bones III Kickstarter
Before we had even concluded the shipping of Bones II rewards back in March, you've been asking us when we we're going to do Bones III.

You want it? YOU GOT IT.

July 7th, we're launching Bones III, and bringing our popular BONES back to Kickstarter. We've got new models, new art, new designs, and a new hero!

Our Story begins as Mrs. Bones discovers thet Mr. Bones has been kidnapped, and Mrs. Bones takes up her sword to travel through Bonesylvania as we unlock new models and new surprises, including demons, dragons, gods, terrain, heroes, villains, lycanthropes, peasants, monsters, and more! Each stretch goal is new Bones models for you, and brings her one step closer to rescuing Mr. Bones from the evil... Well, that's a secret.

Keep your eyes on our Forums to see previews, secrets, and talk to the project creators before the project launches!

Legendary Encounters Kickstarter

In 2007 we launched our first plastics line, Legendary Encounters. These were pre-painted, non random, non-blind miniatures packaged in our standard visible blisters. You could see what you were getting, and always get the right one. The only problem was, the process of making new molds was expensive, and we coudn't keep up.

In 2011, we used Kickstarter to successfully create the BONES line of miniatures, creating over a hundred new molds for over 300 new plastic figures. But in the back of our mind, we always knew that the Legendary Encounters pre-painted plastics needed some attention, too. And while we can now use dozens of our BONES molds, the Legendary Encounters figures are more expensive to produce and prototype than the BONES are.

Kickstarter to the Rescue! This fall, we're going to re-launch a new and improved Legendary Encounters Kickstarter, a new project designed to help us get hundreds of new models, new paint jobs, and new ideas to market! If you don't want to paint a million beasties for your games, or you just like the idea of us doing the work for you, this project is for you!

Keep an eye out for more news at reapermini.com.

**adamsouza**

They had me at demons,..., gods, terrain,...