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Yeah... the cherubic angel face gone creepy is just awesome... I would *not* want one of those things rising up behind me in the cemetary, nuh uh.

I don't like the coral golem at all. It's not necessarily bad or anything... just don't jive with it.

The reanimated..pirate ship... is either stupid or brilliant... would really depend on your game. I think I like it, though having an arm mounted cannon pushes it a bit more towards steampunk than I'm comfortable with Still a nice set certainly worth the extra, for those who are interested.

Dying to know what's coming next in the graveyard expansion

That pirate ship golem worked pretty well in The Lego Movie.

Nononono, Metalbeard wasn't a golem, he's the best version of good old Ghazghull yet!

My wife called the pirate ship a wereboat. The adventure will now replicate the Futurama episode where Bender becomes a werecar.

I have an adventure in mind that will use the figures from the CMoN Rum and Bones set. There will be weresharks too. At one point.. there might be a small desert island, a sea witch...and.. now that I'm typing it out, it's starting to seem like that little desert island might get pretty crowded.. (imagining Battle Royale mixed with Pirates of the Carribean)

 BrookM wrote:
Nononono, Metalbeard wasn't a golem, he's the best version of good old Ghazghull yet!

Either way, you only need a head swap.

Taking a break from KS this time around, but that graveyard (in particular the golem)just about pushed me back in. Can't wait for retail.

Yeah, the three friends who were going to back with me are running tight on cash, so I'm down from a full tier to just $26 in assorted stuff.

Think I'll snag the Torture Chamber pack, the Invisible Heroes, the Savage Worlds stuff, and one each of the Armoury of Virtue/Vice. Another $8 or so in shipping and that should cover me for what I want for the time being. There's other things I'd like, but those can wait for retail.

I'm glad the campaign is doing so well, and keep looking back at that Mystic Circle, but with Gencon looming I'm trying to keep my purchases down, and shipping/currency exchange add up quickly these days.

The graveyard golem and shipwreck golem might have just got me in for $1 .

The shipwreck golem looks great, but if sir forscale is intended for it as well it's just going to be too small

 kronk wrote:

 Polonius wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
I am torn on the golems. I kind of like the shipwreck one, but the coral golem, I am not so sure.

I agree... but the shipwreck golem is so unbelievably cool!

Still, probably better to wait and see what it looks like sculpted and buy at retail.

Heh.

I thought the Shipwreck one was beyond silly but I like the Coral one.

The answer is obvious - you give me your shipwreck golem, and Polonius and Wehrkind give me their coral golems. Simples!

The Auld Grump, and there goes another $12....

 Polonius wrote:
Still, probably better to wait and see what it looks like sculpted and buy at retail.

The huge (?) mini's look to be 50% more at full MSRP : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/994700393/nuclear-war-card-game-50th-anniversary-edition/posts/1303967

The OLGS prices these huge mini's a little above KS prices : http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=search&s=bones+dragon

The main problem, though, is that not only do you pay postage for shipping, but the mini's go out of stock! I wanted the not-TARDIS but it was OOS. Naturally it was in stock a few days after I bought some other stuff from the OLGS!

Eh, FWP. I think if you think the shipwreck golem will look good, and think the coral one's only worth four bucks, then $12 for both is better than the OLGS. OTOH, there's still available cash to consider...

 OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:
The shipwreck golem looks great, but if sir forscale is intended for it as well it's just going to be too small

There's a human skull in the shipwreck. It looks to be roughly the same size as Sir Forscale. Too small is my general feeling too. Such a good idea though.. worth a scratchbuild for the proper size if nothing else!

There's a lot of "kinda big" stuff in this.. there's obviously one massive beast.. there's shub which is definitely big as are 1 or 2 of the dragons (the others are pretty big but I mean...whoah that's big sized). World Breaker and DDS, Cthulhu and Kaladrax. I kinda feel like we've seen the last of the truly massive stuff and will see at best a lot more kinda big stuff.


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 Polonius wrote:
Still, probably better to wait and see what it looks like sculpted and buy at retail.

The huge (?) mini's look to be 50% more at full MSRP : https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/994700393/nuclear-war-card-game-50th-anniversary-edition/posts/1303967

The OLGS prices these huge mini's a little above KS prices : http://www.frpgames.com/cart.php?m=search&s=bones+dragon

The main problem, though, is that not only do you pay postage for shipping, but the mini's go out of stock! I wanted the not-TARDIS but it was OOS. Naturally it was in stock a few days after I bought some other stuff from the OLGS!

Eh, FWP. I think if you think the shipwreck golem will look good, and think the coral one's only worth four bucks, then $12 for both is better than the OLGS. OTOH, there's still available cash to consider...

This is where it gets funny. People are using that 50% thing across the board. I pointed out to Reaper in the comments that not all of the retail are double their kickstarter prices and they admitted that a lot of them were at best 20% off. Usually, yes the biggest stuff is going to be a deep discount. However, there are some bones spiders at retail that are like 40 cents cheaper than the metal version. That's it. If they had been doubled, they would've been more expensive than the metal ones.
Likewise, some of the stuff like the previously mentioned manticore. If it gets doubled at retail and is $12, it will only be a few bucks cheaper than the metal version. It will more likely be $6-7. Again, Bryan mentioned that Reaper does not discount the stuff that will be popular as much as others as a way of subsidizing the cost or somesuch business speak. Looking at the cost of the existing Bones Ogres.. if they double the cost of the ogres from the add-on, it'll be bad. If the double the cost of the core ogres, then that set will be insanely cheap at retail. Considering most of the existing ogres are only a few bucks, I think it will be somewhere in the middle.

My point to all of this.. the 50% thing is an arbitrary number. However, people have been treating it like it's the baseline. The truth is that the % is all over the place. That truth also means that some of this stuff is not that good of a deal.

LOL! One of you asking for more scifi needs to step up and make a Deathwing army out of these adorable terrors.

Sounds like TV channel packages; a bunch get crammed together and in order to get 'the good stuff' you end up subsidizing the others a little bit.

And while I'm sure they have stats on demand for their metal figures, that kind of thing can shift, especially with a new price point, which is to say that they might not necessarily know up front what the 'hot stuff' will be with certainty.

If a popular figure only getting a 20% discount means that some other less popular figures can get a 40% discount (which in turn makes them more attractive, thus bumping sales up), fair enough.

Let's also keep in mind we're talking about $5-10 figures in a lot of cases. I'm sure there's a lot of costs/estimations/praying that goes into pricing some of those giant dragons out, especially since the demand/production run may be much smaller as well. But if we're talking 20% vs 40% off a $5 figure, is it really big enough to sweat the buck? Sure, in aggregate across dozens or hundreds of figures it adds up a little, but I'm willing to accept a bit of fudging on the backend/behind the scenes to keep things moving.

Different shapes, amounts of material, complexity of design to get the best result with the least amount of headache, these are all things (among many) that Reaper has to sort out.

At the end of the day if it means that my Torture Chamber set is a dollar or two more expensive than it 'should be', that's something I'm willing to accept. And the real meat is the main tier/box, which is absolutely a deal (in terms of dollar amount versus box contents; whether or not people actually give a gak for enough of the figures to really make it worthwhile is an individual choice, but it's looking like at least 1/3 to 1/4 MSRP by the looks of it, and we're not even done filling it out).

Also, there's some adorable sci-fi in the update that's probably going to make at least one person here angry.

Darn all of these weapon packs lol, they're really neat and I want. That's the trap though, as soon as you spend even 10 dollars on the core set in your projections you start to think of how much opportunity cost you're 'paying', why.. if I just spent the other 90 I'd get everything I want from core and ALL THE OTHER THINGS... damn dirty tempters!

Mouselings are kind of funny, space mouslings are kind of funnier... still don't want any.. but some people will probably be happy to see them.

Undead/graveyard weapons are sweet too.

Am I the only one that feels like they just gave a big middle finger to everyone asking for sci-fi?

I dunno. Maybe? I mean they already had a space mouseling before this. They probably always intended to produce them.

Does Reaper even have all that much Scifi to convert to bones or would it have to be new stuff?

That's ridiculous, MLaw. It was a tiny, furry finger. Like being flicked off by Rocket. They have been teasing that Exosuit though. I imagine tomorrow is going to be absurd.

 MLaw wrote:
Am I the only one that feels like they just gave a big middle finger to everyone asking for sci-fi?

I can see why you would think that, but those Mouselings are better than most of their sci fi Bones stuff which is, imho, 80% garbage.

 Gitzbitah wrote:
That's ridiculous, MLaw. It was a tiny, furry finger. Like being flicked off by Rocket. They have been teasing that Exosuit though. I imagine tomorrow is going to be absurd.

I'm wearing a Rocket shirt lol..


GrimDork- They have everything you would need for a Shadowrun party. They have some interesting aliens that haven't been added to bones. They could make stealth versions of some of the modern/sci-fi stuff for optical camo. They could release more objective type scatter terrain. They could do any of their generic superhero stuff. Reaper has good sci-fi but they act like they have no idea of that fact.


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 Alex C wrote:

 MLaw wrote:
Am I the only one that feels like they just gave a big middle finger to everyone asking for sci-fi?

I can see why you would think that, but those Mouselings are better than most of their sci fi Bones stuff which is, imho, 80% garbage.

The sci-fi bones? Eh.. It's got some usable stuff IMO. Reaper is just making asinine decisions where sci-fi is concerned. The metal greys aren't that expensive and they look 100% better than the bones ones, the Bathalians are pretty situational but make decent hostile aliens. The sci-fi humans work as some type of infantry or futuristic police force maybe like Lone Star in Shadowrun.. etc.

I love Reaper but I must say, the endless Reaper fellating on the official boards gets old quick. Also, gak like this:

"Also, Mouselings in Space are an instant $10 pledge for me, if only because the reaction from the space grognards is going to be so delicious."

What are you, 12 years old? The feth?

It's a brave new world of consumerism. It's not always enough to buy things you like, sometimes it's important to support things other people hate.

Because reasons.

Not the sci-fi I was hoping for.

 TheAuldGrump wrote:

 kronk wrote:

 Polonius wrote:

 Wehrkind wrote:
I am torn on the golems. I kind of like the shipwreck one, but the coral golem, I am not so sure.

I agree... but the shipwreck golem is so unbelievably cool!

Still, probably better to wait and see what it looks like sculpted and buy at retail.

Heh.

I thought the Shipwreck one was beyond silly but I like the Coral one.

The answer is obvious - you give me your shipwreck golem, and Polonius and Wehrkind give me their coral golems. Simples!

The Auld Grump, and there goes another $12....

If you live near NoVA we could work a deal...

 BrookM wrote:
Not the sci-fi I was hoping for.

No love for Warhamster 40k?

 BrookM wrote:
Not the sci-fi I was hoping for.

You can still late pledge to HiNT (I think).. Not exactly anything close to an amazing deal on minis but since it's a game too.. plus everything is super shadowrun.
I really wish they'd go that direction with at least a core add-on if not an expansion.

Third video, including the Victoria Sledgehammer and five-headed dragon. DWARF UNMOUNTS FROM PONY.



Graveyard expansion completely unlocked!

That is one fine looking graveyard set. Yes sir. That golem.

So, what's everyone's take on the graveyard. I was hoping for a bit more chunky scenery, but given the crypt and fencing that was probably just wishful thinking.

Can't get a feel for how large the carrion worm is, though it *is* a useful monster to have around. And the European style sarcophagus is neat.

Female wraith/shade/reaper/whatever is uhh... one of the hotter minis in the campaign? Well I guess if you're going to have your soul cleaved from your body, may as well have that one last erection!

I can't decide if the last bit is solid or meh, what do you guys think? Gotta figure it out by tomorrow (or in the coming months on the PM, but I'd like to contribute *now* if I'm going to) if I'm to add to the total.