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Honestly, for what you get, I am surprised the price was ever as low as $55-$65.

well structured tournaments at a good venue, with good organizational/administrative support , good prize support and good quality opponents is not something that can easily be measured in terms of dollars and cents.

The experience you get at a tournament such as BAO is worth far more than just $75 IMO and if you are buying a Riptide at $75, I think you are doing it wrong =).

The cost in terms of blood, sweat and money to put on an event, any event, is a lot more than people realize. I'd say it probably costs more to set-up and run the BAO than it does for me to start up my own law practice .

 Reecius wrote:
First BAO was $55, second was $65, we bumped up to $75 after that and have stayed there for the past few years. But whatever, it's not a big issue, and yes, the venue is infinitely better!

As for the Skyhammer formation the big point of contention is if you can join characters to it and benefit from the Formation rules or not. I read it as no.

Ha, that didn't even cross my mind. I wasn't planning on trying that anyway so I'm happy.

 Reecius wrote:
@Jamie

I'll give you a pass on complaining about the ticket price (which has not increased, BTW, it has stayed the same for several years, now) because you are so young. If you knew how expensive these things are to run, and saw it from our perspective, you would understand better why things cost what they cost and see that the price is actually more than fair. And besides, what good is getting another eBay Riptide if you don't have a cool tournament to go play it at?

Yeah but I' wont use my age as a cop out. U rite daddy, you rite.


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How long is this wait list? I feel like its going to be colossal. AKA should you put me out of my misery now? Suspense is killer.

I don't think I ever made it on to the wait list.

 Blackmoor wrote:
I don't think I ever made it on to the wait list.

I emailed Reece about 15 minutes after it sold out and I just got mine through the wait list on Monday. It is probably a long list.

@mortetvie

Thanks for the kind words, appreciated!

@Farsight

You have 4 people ahead of you on the wait list at this time.

@Blackmoor

I just added you to the waitlist, you're currently number 10. The list has a shrunk a ton as Overwatch noted, it's half of what it was. We're getting close to the event, but walk-ins should be good to go. Like clockwork, we've always had about a 10% no show ratio at every event we've ever run.

Reece, apologies if you answered this already, what is the venue stance on alcohol? Can we bring it in, buy it there, is it run by Amish and so not allowed etc?

EDIT: Perhaps more importantly (sorry Casey), what will the ruling be on the new Space Marine codex and Daemonology? Do they have access to both Malefic and Sanctic as per the hardback or just Sanctic as per the digital codex?

I've been told it's both Sanctic and Malefic Demonology Marines.

 Julnlecs wrote:
I've been told it's both Sanctic and Malefic Demonology Marines.

By an ITC official?

The council hasn't had a chance to discuss, so for now play it as both. However, I understand that the digital version specifies only Sanctic which if that is the case, we will likely go with that.

 Reecius wrote:
The council hasn't had a chance to discuss, so for now play it as both. However, I understand that the digital version specifies only Sanctic which if that is the case, we will likely go with that.

Ok cool. We can get a for sure ruling day of the event or will it be ruled on a game by game basis depending upon the judge called over? I'm not trying to be combative Reece I just want to make sure prior to packing up my models!

Random rules question that may come up (it has come up in some practice games).

Necron Gauss specifically says it auto glances on a 6 against vehicles and buildings. How does this work against projected void shields? Since they are neither vehicles nor buildings (they just have an AV of 12), RAW I'd imagine the answer is the Gauss rule does not work against Void Shields but wanted to know your thoughts for my Necron friends going up there.

Officially, yes, you can use both at BAO =)

We're reading it as yes, it does work.

 Reecius wrote:
Officially, yes, you can use both at BAO =)

We're reading it as yes, it does work.

Was this answer directed entirely towards Overwatch's question or was it answering his and mine?

 mortetvie wrote:

 Reecius wrote:
Officially, yes, you can use both at BAO =)

We're reading it as yes, it does work.

Was this answer directed entirely towards Overwatch's question or was it answering his and mine?

First answer was to me. Second to you.

Just 'cause it needs to be said:


Grant GTA: Your 7 foot plus frame can't hide from me, punk. I wanna rematch! Don't let your 2014 victory go to your head!

That Goeff guy. You might out-weigh me, in sheer muscle, 2:1, (just his left bicep) but I'm ready. Bring it!

Jim Yeh - Bring those 5 land raiders! Compensate for Scatbike spam! I don't care!

Some kid named Jamie: *points*

Some punk named 'Reese'. I wanna Round 1 challenge, man. You cheese wielding, punk! My Eldar-tau will p'own you!

Adam M. (somedude) I got your painting score in my shorts!

Israel who?!!!?!?

Obidiah what?!??!?!



Best regards,
Casey H.
Team Beer Hammer

I owe you a rematch too, Casey. Why didn't you mention me? You ain't want none of this o what?



nWo blackshirts GT Team Member

 Julnlecs wrote:
I owe you a rematch too, Casey. Why didn't you mention me? You ain't want none of this o what?

nWo blackshirts GT Team Member

Well, yea, man. You scare the crap outta me. Sir.

(needs emoticon that is saluting)

And there's the BAO 2013 Champion, too. I ain't callin' her out neither. Prolly can snap me in half with just her left arm ... respectfully submitted.

Ma'am.


I'm not worried about that Blackmoor, though. We all know what a sweet old woman he is.

Pfft doesnt matter. My Skyhammer will anhillate you ALL!!!!!!!

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Pfft doesnt matter. My Skyhammer will anhillate you ALL!!!!!!!

Good point, hsm.

On a serious note:
I faced OverWatchCNC's SkyHammer last night. He went after the WraithKnight, of course. I put in 500 points of Tau Interceptors, and they took out 2 Assault Marines! Only 2!

Then those 4 Gravguns and M-meltas got rolling ... but ultimately, the SkyHammer Jumpers only killed 4 Crisis Suits. NightFight and Ruin Cover Saves took a lot of wind out of that grav-fueled sail.

I did one or two smart things and the dice did the rest. SkyHammer missed. However, one game does not the meta make.
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*looks over previous post* Oh, I might have to go back and edit that one away ...

Meh, I have only played this list once.
Im gonna loose

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Meh, I have only played this list once.
Im gonna loose

I'll PM you with some ideas. I faced it twice, and I think I know something!

But I ain't gonna share it out like, you know, on a public forum or nothing!

Can't wait to see everyone! The team is in full speed now, preparations are going smoothly, should be a great time!

I can easily see SH dominating at BAO ! Go Space Marines !!!

Will be rooting for all Ad Mech

 WrentheFaceless wrote:
Will be rooting for all Ad Mech

I'm rooting for a spoiler army like a Skitarri/CM assault list to win. If I don't win that is...


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 Brothererekose wrote:

 hotsauceman1 wrote:
Meh, I have only played this list once.
Im gonna loose

I'll PM you with some ideas. I faced it twice, and I think I know something!

But I ain't gonna share it out like, you know, on a public forum or nothing!

There is a Jon Snow joke in there somewhere Casey. Hold up, I'll find it.

Every army should have a smashfacker.

 Reecius wrote:
Can't wait to see everyone! The team is in full speed now, preparations are going smoothly, should be a great time!

Im coming down to help early too. cant wait. Me, Keno & Rawdogger are coming down together

Alright everybody, we're leaving for the BAO tomorrow afternoon. If you follow Capture and Control at all you know I live update the blogs Facebook page during local tournaments. I plan to do the same for the BAO so if you want up to date information during the event like the Capture and Control Facebook page. I will try to take shots of the match ups so we can track whose on top and post pictures from my rounds and of cool armies and happenings at the con. I've posted a few things on Capture and Control about my prepping for the event and TFG Radio did a couple podcasts about it. The last one had Travis, Adam, and Alan "Blackmoor" Hernandez talking shop.

https://www.facebook.com/pages/Capture-and-Control/361497560630086?ref=br_tf
https://www.facebook.com/thosefnguys?fref=ts

Will there be any table open for games tonight