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Its Kilkrazy. He's harmless


Its because he mostly just comes out at night. mostly...



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 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
 Ghazkuul wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
It's part of your county's heritage not to have a woman on the currency.



Anyone else find it amusing that we have a "Mod" trolling so hard?


If we report a mod, will the site implode?


Just threaten to bend his chopsticks what I usually do. That or toss him a Snicker.


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 Jihadin wrote:
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Its because he mostly just comes out at night. mostly...





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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
How about this. We put Obama on every bill and coin, he is our savior after all.
Still more worthy than Tubman. I'm almost certain this WILL happen some day - no matter how poorly he is judged by history. It's okay - because it's progressive.

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 Xenomancers wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
How about this. We put Obama on every bill and coin, he is our savior after all.
Still more worthy than Tubman. I'm almost certain this WILL happen some day - no matter how poorly he is judged by history. It's okay - because it's progressive.


What do you mean poorly judged? The man did exactly what he said he would!

Obama said he would fix the economy and he has! I mean just because he increased the national deficit from 10 trillion to 18 trillion in the space of 7 years doesn't mean he didn't do a good job!.

He did end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan AS PROMISED! wait...thats right....Afghanistan is still going on...BUT WE PULLED OUT OF IRAQ! ....but my buddies in the marines still are currently in Iraq fighting ISIS and training the Iraqi military....damnit


He did promise us Change and he delivered though! unfortunately for all the idiots who voted for him its been a pretty negative change. Hope you didn't lose your homes/small businesses/jobs under President Obama...millions so far have.

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Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?


None, Their has been no woman in our country that has made as significant a contribution to our country then the gentlemen currently on the Bank notes. This has a lot to do with sexism pre 1980ish but unless your going to use affirmative action (which is a terrible idea) nobody should replace Jackson.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?


Haven't we been discussing this? Miss Piggy.

Alternatively: Elvira Mistress of the Dark
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cassandra_Peterson#/media/File:Elvira_waving.jpg

Even more Alternatively:
Selma Hayek, because we are a nation of immigrants.

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 Ghazkuul wrote:
 Xenomancers wrote:
 hotsauceman1 wrote:
How about this. We put Obama on every bill and coin, he is our savior after all.
Still more worthy than Tubman. I'm almost certain this WILL happen some day - no matter how poorly he is judged by history. It's okay - because it's progressive.


What do you mean poorly judged? The man did exactly what he said he would!

Obama said he would fix the economy and he has! I mean just because he increased the national deficit from 10 trillion to 18 trillion in the space of 7 years doesn't mean he didn't do a good job!.

He did end the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan AS PROMISED! wait...thats right....Afghanistan is still going on...BUT WE PULLED OUT OF IRAQ! ....but my buddies in the marines still are currently in Iraq fighting ISIS and training the Iraqi military....damnit


He did promise us Change and he delivered though! unfortunately for all the idiots who voted for him its been a pretty negative change. Hope you didn't lose your homes/small businesses/jobs under President Obama...millions so far have.

8 trillion? Chump change.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?


In regards to putting a woman on a bill (it could be any bill as far as I am concerned, it doesn't have to be a $20) any one of these women would get my vote:

Grace Hopper
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Grace_Hopper

Margaret Fuller.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Fuller

Eleanor Roosevelt
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eleanor_Roosevelt

   
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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?


You should read the thread. Multiple have been suggested already, by multiple users.

I realize it's more fun to drop in, drop a "Sexist Racist USA" line, and duck out, but in a 7 page thread context certainly can help.

 
   
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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?


In general, any women that achieved more than any comparable male counterpart. Choosing a woman over a more qualified man just because of her being a woman is sexism.

In particular, not familiar enough with US history myself.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?



Perhaps Woodrow Wilson's second wife (the one he was married to in office) as she practically ran the country after his stroke.

Perhaps Clara Barton... she only saved who knows how many lives during the Civil War as a battlefield nurse, and then went on to create the Red Cross, which I'm sure a couple of y'all have heard of

Maybe Jackie Cochran (who I'd honestly never heard of until this google search) since she was the first female jet pilot, first female to fly a bomber over the atlantic, first female to break the sound barrier, etc. etc. Apparently, to this very day, she still holds more international speed, altitude and distance records for aircraft... male or female.

Just for giggles, we should put Oprah on a bill, together with a Federal Law that states anytime you transmit a bill with her visage on it, you MUST say, "you get a Dollar, and you get a dollar, and EVERYONE gets a dollar!!"
   
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Also Ma Barker. You have Queens, we have Queens of crime!

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Betsy Ross if we are going to go with an iconic piece of american history

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 Sigvatr wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?


In general, any women that achieved more than any comparable male counterpart. Choosing a woman over a more qualified man just because of her being a woman is sexism.

In particular, not familiar enough with US history myself.


Exalted!

Finally someone who sees this for what it is, sexism.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?


I'd be okay with Eleanor, Betsy Ross, or Rosa Parks.

While not a woman, I'm totally down with MLK on currency.

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 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?

Seriously... she's done quite a bit for our country:
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 daedalus wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?


I'd be okay with Eleanor, Betsy Ross, or Rosa Parks.

While not a woman, I'm totally down with MLK on currency.

For realz...

Ditto.

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Only 600,000 people? And only a 3rd of them actually selected the winner?

Seems very insignificant for a country with so many people.

We in NZ put Kate Shepard on our 10 dollar note because she actually did something unique (I.E not simply because she did something above average and was female at the same time...) and that was leading the movement that got women the right to vote in NZ, which was also the first country to allow the female vote.

Its like the Martin Luther King of womens rights (we also put a Maori Rights leader on there Sir Ngata on the 50 dollar note)

The issue shouldn't be hard, people chosen for deeds BEYOND that of others should be chosen, rather than selecting a racially, sexually etc diverse people. Our currency has the faces of firsts such as Sir Edmond Hillary (5 dollar note) for being the first to climb mount Everest and then promoting sporting in kids until his death or Ernest Rutherford (100 dollar note) known as the father of Nuclear Physics.

We also have the Queen of England on one (20 dollar note), but when she dies we will more than likely replace her. Even though she has done surprising amount of things in her life.

Choosing a women to go on a bank note is sexist. Why not simply chose based on achievement?

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 Swastakowey wrote:


Choosing a women to go on a bank note is sexist. Why not simply chose based on achievement?


The point is, Tubman achieved a heck of a lot. She was a pivotal resistor of the Slave Trade, a Civil War Hero and an early Suffragette. She is an outstanding example of overcoming great obstacles and long odds to make a lasting mark for the betterment of society. She beat the fething game of Life on the hardest difficulty setting! (Black, Female, Slave).

I seriously suspect the true motivations behind people who are against this.

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 feeder wrote:
 Swastakowey wrote:


Choosing a women to go on a bank note is sexist. Why not simply chose based on achievement?


The point is, Tubman achieved a heck of a lot. She was a pivotal resistor of the Slave Trade, a Civil War Hero and an early Suffragette. She is an outstanding example of overcoming great obstacles and long odds to make a lasting mark for the betterment of society. She beat the fething game of Life on the hardest difficulty setting! (Black, Female, Slave).

I seriously suspect the true motivations behind people who are against this.


True, but as the poll suggests she has not been selected on the basis of her achievements. Rather they chose people based on their gender AND THEN looked at their achievements. I have no doubt she did some amazing things. I have never heard of her personally. I guess the motives dont seem very correct behind her as a choice. Imagine how she, as a fighter of rights etc (quick google search) would feel if she was chosen to be on the 20 dollar bill... because she was a women. I think that would not go down so well.

There was an example on her wikipedia. She was paid in rations for her job as a nurse. The other Negroes however did not get paid. So what does she do? She CHOOSES to no longer be compensated for her work. She doesnt sound like the kind of person who would be happy to get special treatment. ESpecially if the motives for this special treatment go against one of the things she fought for.

Dunno, just my two cents I guess. Im never gonna see an american bill so it doesnt effect me. I actually didnt know they had faces on them.... (only the white house I have ever seen on US cash).
   
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 feeder wrote:

I seriously suspect the true motivations behind people who are against this.


Is that a not so subtle way to call those that aren't jumping out of their shoes to start minting her racists or bigots?

 
   
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 cincydooley wrote:
 feeder wrote:

I seriously suspect the true motivations behind people who are against this.


Is that a not so subtle way to call those that aren't jumping out of their shoes to start minting her racists or bigots?


*DING DING DING* We have a winner!

She was a conductor on the Underground railroad, she will be remembered forever in our country....beyond that she did nothing significant. President Jackson fought in our wars, led our country and set a badass example for future generations. So how about you just let it be until some woman comes along and surpasses those achievements. For instance, if a female astronaut becomes the first person (NOT WOMAN) to land on mars. F*CK im all for it! until then lets just let it be.

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 Ghazkuul wrote:
 Sigvatr wrote:
 Kilkrazy wrote:
Back on topic, if you don't like Tubman for the bank note what other American woman do you think would be suitable?


In general, any women that achieved more than any comparable male counterpart. Choosing a woman over a more qualified man just because of her being a woman is sexism.

In particular, not familiar enough with US history myself.


Exalted!

Finally someone who sees this for what it is, sexism.


Ghazkuul, how do you walk around with such a big chip on your shoulder? I understand not wanting to change the imagery for history, but you seem pretty up in a fit about anything to do with feminism or women in general. Side note, what's the word for the opposite of a feminazi? Meninazi?


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 cincydooley wrote:
 feeder wrote:

I seriously suspect the true motivations behind people who are against this.


Is that a not so subtle way to call those that aren't jumping out of their shoes to start minting her racists or bigots?


I think he's referring to them being sexist rather than them being racist. Just inferring, though.

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 cincydooley wrote:
 feeder wrote:

I seriously suspect the true motivations behind people who are against this.


Is that a not so subtle way to call those that aren't jumping out of their shoes to start minting her racists or bigots?


Thats a bold strategy cotton, lets see if it pays off for him.

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 Ustrello wrote:
 cincydooley wrote:
 feeder wrote:

I seriously suspect the true motivations behind people who are against this.


Is that a not so subtle way to call those that aren't jumping out of their shoes to start minting her racists or bigots?


Thats a bold strategy cotton, lets see if it pays off for him.


I thought the sexists were the ones choosing applicants based on gender?

What kind of strategy is this? Reverse psychology?
   
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 Ustrello wrote:
Betsy Ross if we are going to go with an iconic piece of american history

Considering the Betsy Ross tale is one that is nearly fabricated by her descendents and she at most stiched a few stars in and no one knows who really created it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_Ross

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I am anti feminazi :-) thank you though for trying to paint me as a bigot.

In fact I am an avid supporter of EQUAL rights. The emphasis on the "equal" part. I am against any system or mechanism that unfairly benefits a specific race, gender or ethnicity because people feel they need the boost.

I served in Afghanistan with Women who did an outstanding job. We came under attack on a regular basis and none of them lost their cool. These same women though scoffed at the idea that congress and feminazi's thought that Women should be infantry. In fact I pointed out that some women could cut it and they were the ones trying to shoot down the idea completely.

My point is that nobody should receive a benefit based upon their color, sex, religion or ethnicity, as soon as someone does it becomes a problem.

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 hotsauceman1 wrote:
 Ustrello wrote:
Betsy Ross if we are going to go with an iconic piece of american history

Considering the Betsy Ross tale is one that is nearly fabricated by her descendents and she at most stiched a few stars in and no one knows who really created it
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betsy_Ross


Even that is true, some basic research says that it might of it might not of, I still say she is a good fit.

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 Ghazkuul wrote:
I am anti feminazi :-) thank you though for trying to paint me as a bigot.

In fact I am an avid supporter of EQUAL rights. The emphasis on the "equal" part. I am against any system or mechanism that unfairly benefits a specific race, gender or ethnicity because people feel they need the boost.

I served in Afghanistan with Women who did an outstanding job. We came under attack on a regular basis and none of them lost their cool. These same women though scoffed at the idea that congress and feminazi's thought that Women should be infantry. In fact I pointed out that some women could cut it and they were the ones trying to shoot down the idea completely.

My point is that nobody should receive a benefit based upon their color, sex, religion or ethnicity, as soon as someone does it becomes a problem.


I'm not trying to paint you as a bigot, I'm just pointing out you've been fairly hostile to anything remotely involving women's rights. As said before, I understand not wanting to put someone in place of Jackson, but you seem seriously insulted by the fact that it's a poc woman.

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 jreilly89 wrote:
 Ghazkuul wrote:
I am anti feminazi :-) thank you though for trying to paint me as a bigot.

In fact I am an avid supporter of EQUAL rights. The emphasis on the "equal" part. I am against any system or mechanism that unfairly benefits a specific race, gender or ethnicity because people feel they need the boost.

I served in Afghanistan with Women who did an outstanding job. We came under attack on a regular basis and none of them lost their cool. These same women though scoffed at the idea that congress and feminazi's thought that Women should be infantry. In fact I pointed out that some women could cut it and they were the ones trying to shoot down the idea completely.

My point is that nobody should receive a benefit based upon their color, sex, religion or ethnicity, as soon as someone does it becomes a problem.


I'm not trying to paint you as a bigot, I'm just pointing out you've been fairly hostile to anything remotely involving women's rights. As said before, I understand not wanting to put someone in place of Jackson, but you seem seriously insulted by the fact that it's a poc woman.


I am 100% certain it was the method of selection that annoyed him... not the result. Come on man its pretty obvious. Who cares if its a black chick? Obviously those who care showed their sexist behavior by advocating in the first place. What matters is the achievement, well that's what should matter anyway.

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