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Hi, I did a search but I couldn't find anything. I have some questions on Runes of the Farseer before I go up against them, based upon what was suggested to me that this person can actually do with the rules as they are. I have the Eldar Codex and my own interpretation differs from a local players interpretation. My Thousand Sons might be taking a Farseer if he can help Ahriman to re-roll a failed Psychic Test........ (Just kidding)

1.) Can a Farseer's Runes of the Farseer let him re-roll any psyker's psychic test, regardless of whether or not the Farseer is actually deployed?

2.) Can a Farseer re-roll a Deny the Witch roll when attempting to stop powers that do not target his unit?

Thanks.

 Brometheus wrote:
Hi, I did a search but I couldn't find anything. I have some questions on Runes of the Farseer before I go up against them, based upon what was suggested to me that this person can actually do with the rules as they are. I have the Eldar Codex and my own interpretation differs from a local players interpretation. My Thousand Sons might be taking a Farseer if he can help Ahriman to re-roll a failed Psychic Test........ (Just kidding)

1.) Can a Farseer's Runes of the Farseer let him re-roll any psyker's psychic test, regardless of whether or not the Farseer is actually deployed?

2.) Can a Farseer re-roll a Deny the Witch roll when attempting to stop powers that do not target his unit?

Thanks.

Negatron.

1. If the Farseer isn't the one performing the Psychic test, then the Farseer isn't actually rolling any dice.

2. By the same token, if a Farseer isn't in the unit being targeted, he's not the one making the Deny the Witch test.

That's my interpretation but he is saying it's very cut and dry in English. I ignored him after that. But it did bring up the question in my mind.

 Brometheus wrote:
That's my interpretation but he is saying it's very cut and dry in English. I ignored him after that. But it did bring up the question in my mind.

Ask him to show you in the rules how many dice a Farseer is contributing to a Deny the Witch test when he's not in a targeted unit. The answer is zero. Therefore, he can feel free to re-roll zero dice. Same goes for a Psychic test he didn't initiate.

Your opponent is trying to get something for nothing here.

Yeah I figured. I just found some other stuff online and it seems that what he is trying to is not original.. but it gets wrecked by people who shut it down quickly as silly.

I guess my question is answered, thanks.

Do farseers have psychic hoods? That affects the second question. Though I'm guessing the arguement involves denying blessings. In which case the rules are a bit of a hurdle.

The sequence for denying starts with picking one of the units being targeted, but then if there are no targeted units, you must "follow the same process, but Apply no modifiers to your dice rolls"

You cant pick a targeted unit because there isnt one. But do you still pick a unit? I say no. But then I'm not an eldar player

 jokerkd wrote:
Do farseers have psychic hoods? That affects the second question. Though I'm guessing the arguement involves denying blessings. In which case the rules are a bit of a hurdle.

The sequence for denying starts with picking one of the units being targeted, but then if there are no targeted units, you must "follow the same process, but Apply no modifiers to your dice rolls"

You cant pick a targeted unit because there isnt one. But do you still pick a unit? I say no. But then I'm not an eldar player

Farseers do not have Psychic Hoods.

Anyone can deny the witch, not just the unit targeting.

examples.

eldars vs SMs

SM units targets a non-psyker elder unit.
SMs roll 5 WCPs for a total of 8

the 5 WCPs give the elder player 12 total WCPs.

the elder can use all 12 to deny the witch at one time if they chose too

If a farseer wants to deny the witch and reroll, he can if hes not in the unit being targeted but he will not receive the negative modifiers.

this is true because in the psychic powers and phase of the new BRB, there is a blurb about a psychic hood.

the wearer of a psychic hood can chose to deny the witch for another unit being targeted and confer the negative motifier on the roll if the wearer is within 12 inches.

the Runes rule states he can reroll deny the witches. it doesn't say he has to be targeted. if he can deny blessings which target the opposing player, he can also deny the witch on his units being targeted.

see also Kharn's special rule. he can pass deny the witch rolls on 2+

hope that makes sense.

I can that I can deny the witch. what i dont get is that if someone can reroll the DtW rolls without being on the table or targeted.. I reread your answer and didnt pull that from there.

The issue is whether a particular unit can be chosen to deny a blessing. If you have no psykers, you can still deny a blessing, so theres no reason to think the farseer should be denying it

I think runes of the farseer are far better than we've been thinking so far:

Runes of the Farseer: Once in each Psychic phase, a model with this special rule can re-roll any number of dice used in a single Deny the Witch test or Psychic test (potentially negating Perils of the Warp in the process).

Once in each Psychic phase: yours, or your opponent's

used in a single Deny the Witch test or Psychic test: yours, or your opponent's


Is it me or is there absolutely *nothing* preventing the Farseer from using his Runes during any player turn and on anyone's rolls ?

morgoth wrote:
I think runes of the farseer are far better than we've been thinking so far:

Runes of the Farseer: Once in each Psychic phase, a model with this special rule can re-roll any number of dice used in a single Deny the Witch test or Psychic test (potentially negating Perils of the Warp in the process).

Once in each Psychic phase: yours, or your opponent's

used in a single Deny the Witch test or Psychic test: yours, or your opponent's


Is it me or is there absolutely *nothing* preventing the Farseer from using his Runes during any player turn and on anyone's rolls ?

1) Necro thread.

2) the farseer needs to roll for the ability to activate. A model with this special rule can not re-roll any number of dice used in a single Deny the Witch test or Psychic test =if they didnt make the roll in the first place. Therefore you cant use it on your opponents tests, only the ones the farseer rolls.

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