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but has to be soon. we have the upgrade sprue, new battleforce, pics at the back of WD...it's for sure coming and with the strength of the new SM codex, I have high hopes

 Timotheus wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:
See my post above And it does not rule out DA preorder next week. I think it will be at 27th of June. But the gakky german translation on the teaser page can by anything, next week DA is possible, although not likely

Warhams you Schlingel. Ok missed it, sorry. Of course it doesn't mean DA are impossible next week but according to the hints it seem unlikely.

We do not forgive - but you repented with words and deeds and you shall be safe for now

Actually I think we now have solved the 'excess of release week'-puzzle. DA Codex Preorder at June 27th, DA character model and some unknown stuff on the 20th (?), 'til WFB9 preorder in July.

Edit: @Warboss Yes that Hall of Heroes could be meant

Five points to change a bolt pistol or chainsword on Vanguard Vets to a Power Weapon or Lightning Claw? Neat!

Also, Scouts with WS/BS4, oh my.

Woops, wrong thread. Anyways, we can probably expect the latter for DA as well!

I am really hoping that DA veterans get the cheap war gear treatment! I love those models but they are so underwhelming on the table.

Machinepriest at Warseer Forum

I have this weekends issue in hand and the teaser in the painting article says "Dark, but not black"

The teaser in the back cover doesn't hint at anything exciting, just:
Hall of fame
Sprues and glue
Forgeworld

http://www.warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?409276-Space-Marines-Codex-Rumours-MKII&s=3a20ba0934d814cc2763e77b0cbfe572&p=7464491&viewfull=1#post7464491

Warhams-77 wrote:

Spoiler:

Does anyone know where those rhino bitz come from?

 Kavish wrote:

Warhams-77 wrote:

Spoiler:

Does anyone know where those rhino bitz come from?

Yup. Part of their ruined buildings kit. I have chopped off the exact same skull pieces myself to use on tanks.

http://www.games-workshop.com/en-US/Basilica-Administratum

@Kavish: I've often wondered that myself. There's a Rhino in the current codex with bitz on like that.

@Sicksix: Cheers for that- never noticed before!!

"Dark, but not black"
Um... that alludes to DA... right?

DA haven't been black since the Horace Heresy (except for RW of course).

I dunno, Whembly, could be DA yes

A few more pics from July Warhammer Visions - that future issue we had two photos of already was further leaked by Atia on B&C

Dat Chappie is so dope.

The Unforgiven will be curbstompping in no time!

 whembly wrote:
"Dark, but not black"
Um... that alludes to DA... right?

DA haven't been black since the Horace Heresy (except for RW of course).

Yes. They're Dark Angels but they're armour is not black.

Dark Angels are pimping their cars again - huge exhaust pipes for the Emprah


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@Ghaz

I hope we can still buy THSS upgrades piecemeal like we used to. Otherwise it is an expensive unit to wait for shots to come in for a full turn.

Fluff wise, would it be verboten to field a few scouts to babysit objectives in the backfield?

I'm not sure if this release will bring me back to 40k or not...I'm leaning towards not...BUT, I love my scouts, and if they are getting a WS/BS bump to 4 AND if we finally get the scout transport speeder, I MIGHT relent....come on, the chapter with an all Bike/Speeder company doesn't have a few LS Storms laying around?

DA Scouts in the backfield are not against the fluff. And with BS4 they could work as reliable backfield snipers as well. LS Storms are battle-brothers with DA, just use them as allies or with a 2nd detachment. I guess the exclusion is just to make each book 'special'.


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From B&C via Timotheus

Next week's White Dwarf


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The Lion's Blade - Your guide to building a Dark Angels Warhost

Exclusive Dark Angels Mission inside

The Dark Angels strike - None shall escape


Codex incoming

Warhams-77 wrote:
DA Scouts in the backfield are not against the fluff. And with BS4 they could work as reliable backfield snipers as well. LS Storms are battle-brothers with DA, just use them as allies or with a 2nd detachment. I guess the exclusion is just to make each book 'special'.


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From B&C via Timotheus

Next week's White Dwarf


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The Lion's Blade - Your guide to building a Dark Angels Warhost

Exclusive Dark Angels Mission inside

The Dark Angels strike - None shall escape


Codex incoming

We can only hope...

Is Codex up for pre-orders this Friday/Saturday, alongside the Chaplain/Librarian, or next week?

rollawaythestone wrote:
Is Codex up for pre-orders this Friday/Saturday, alongside the Chaplain/Librarian, or next week?

I think this week is only librarian and ultra's painting guide.

Next week should be codex and chap!

So leaks in like 10 days haha.

Yes, next week. Preorder of the DA Codex should be coming with that issue Saturday June 20 2015

@SickSix thanks mate!

Nearly fully confirmed grav means Grav ravenwing.

Mmm Grav ravenwing with twin linked Plasma, or will they limit or nix such a beautiful load out.


BoLS has webstore quirks in it's latest article that screen grabbed Vanilla Marine scouts and other kits appearing in Dark Angels tab. http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/06/40k-dark-angels-ho.html

But No Tac squad. Either allowing you to build a DA force with all the required kits, including upgrade sprue, or holding out on a possible DA Tac Squad. Considering scouts are universal-ish, adding them, but not tacs leaves "All you DA needs" as a update a little hollow. So DA tacs, although no source has ever indicated a possibility, could be showing up.

I can't wait to read about possible formations.

So far Vanilla rumours are not as buffed by formations in Bike Love as other toys. White Scars and DA Ravenwing need some bike mayhem and firepower.

 MajorWesJanson wrote:
Just giving Dark Angels a set of Chapter tactics of their own would lock out all the other special characters by default.

MongooseMatt wrote:
Chapter Tactics, this character here, here and here

?

I don't think he was, I know I wasn't, arguing that a chapter tactic would be all it takes. A chapter tactic, the characters, a few bits of wargear, and something like 7 unit entries would be what an expansion need would to cover DA vs. regular marines. Easily the size of one of those 20-ish page expansions they did in 3rd.

DefiantLambdas wrote:
Nearly fully confirmed grav means Grav ravenwing.

Mmm Grav ravenwing with twin linked Plasma, or will they limit or nix such a beautiful load out.


BoLS has webstore quirks in it's latest article that screen grabbed Vanilla Marine scouts and other kits appearing in Dark Angels tab. http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/06/40k-dark-angels-ho.html

But No Tac squad. Either allowing you to build a DA force with all the required kits, including upgrade sprue, or holding out on a possible DA Tac Squad. Considering scouts are universal-ish, adding them, but not tacs leaves "All you DA needs" as a update a little hollow. So DA tacs, although no source has ever indicated a possibility, could be showing up.

I can't wait to read about possible formations.

So far Vanilla rumours are not as buffed by formations in Bike Love as other toys. White Scars and DA Ravenwing need some bike mayhem and firepower.

Actually, Dark Angels Tactical Squad was found by Atia on B&C as a viable redirect link a week or so ago. Those redirects have turned out as pretty solid predictors of future kits, though they don't indicate an exact timeframe. Anyways, it's been mentioned as a possibility before but mostly forgotten in the Codex Space Marines excitement.

Erren wrote:

DefiantLambdas wrote:
Nearly fully confirmed grav means Grav ravenwing.

Mmm Grav ravenwing with twin linked Plasma, or will they limit or nix such a beautiful load out.


BoLS has webstore quirks in it's latest article that screen grabbed Vanilla Marine scouts and other kits appearing in Dark Angels tab. http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/06/40k-dark-angels-ho.html

But No Tac squad. Either allowing you to build a DA force with all the required kits, including upgrade sprue, or holding out on a possible DA Tac Squad. Considering scouts are universal-ish, adding them, but not tacs leaves "All you DA needs" as a update a little hollow. So DA tacs, although no source has ever indicated a possibility, could be showing up.

I can't wait to read about possible formations.

So far Vanilla rumours are not as buffed by formations in Bike Love as other toys. White Scars and DA Ravenwing need some bike mayhem and firepower.

Actually, Dark Angels Tactical Squad was found by Atia on B&C as a viable redirect link a week or so ago. Those redirects have turned out as pretty solid predictors of future kits, though they don't indicate an exact timeframe. Anyways, it's been mentioned as a possibility before but mostly forgotten in the Codex Space Marines excitement.

Yea whisperer of truth or whoever posts on here randomly and has said that a DA tac box has been made but had no idea on the timeframe.

Ok, call me dense.

Now that that's out of the way... I'm looking at my DA codex and I see my Deathwing Squad entry as 220 pts. Were they really 20 pts more expensive than vanilla terminators... for twin-linked storm-bolters?

I never bought the 6th Ed SM codex, so that's why I'm asking. Because otherwise it is much more than a 5ppm break.


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And, uh, I hope the DA termies get ATSKNF too?

DA termies are Fearless, have split fire and reroll misses after deep strike. They also were able to mix close combat weapons in their squads. I don't have the SM codex, but I believe those are the main differences.

 bullyboy wrote:
DA termies are Fearless, have split fire and reroll misses after deep strike. They also were able to mix close combat weapons in their squads. I don't have the SM codex, but I believe those are the main differences.

Yes, DA termies are far more versatile than Vanilla termies. But hopefully Deathwing will see a small price reduction as well.

 bullyboy wrote:
DA termies are Fearless, have split fire and reroll misses after deep strike. They also were able to mix close combat weapons in their squads. I don't have the SM codex, but I believe those are the main differences.

Plus they automatically arrive via DS on turn 1 or turn 2, your choice.

 SickSix wrote:

 bullyboy wrote:
DA termies are Fearless, have split fire and reroll misses after deep strike. They also were able to mix close combat weapons in their squads. I don't have the SM codex, but I believe those are the main differences.

Yes, DA termies are far more versatile than Vanilla termies. But hopefully Deathwing will see a small price reduction as well.

Indeed. Gimme a reason to paint up some more DWK!