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**lord_blackfang**

Kinda rough that you have to take exactly 3 flyers.

**Kanluwen**

Warhams-77 wrote:
WD pics - by www.gamestrust.de (in german, sorry guys)

Spoiler:

Not much new here, the Psychic power was leaked already last night

Seeds of Fear
Warp Charges 1

The Librarian creeps into the minds of his enemies . Subtly distorted and he reinforces their fears. First he causes discomfort , then it is paranoia , and finally pure horror.

The translation of the actual gameplay text is wonky; but it's the 9 inch curse for leadership based tests on 3D6.

**bullyboy**

what's the translation of the pyschic discipline, Interrogation?

**Kanluwen**

Interromancy most likely. The Dark Angels Libarius Conclave formation from last year has the special rule of "Focused Interromancy" for Ezekiel casting Mind Worm.

**Hulksmash**

Sad. I love the Limited Edition and DA are my Loyalist Marines and my first real 40k army almost 20 years ago now but I can't drop $165 based on book life cycles right now. 2 years is acceptable. Less than that really isn't

Still super excited for the book in general though. DA finally aren't the Redheaded step children! (The actual red marines are

)

**Kanluwen**

We really only have two books that "justify" the whole less than two years book cycle discussion.

Other than that, we just can't be sure if it was something where they wanted to radically shift a flagship book(Space Marines) or revamp something that was a surprise hit(Knights).

**pretre**

Is Sammael all plastic in that pic or just a conversion?

**Kanluwen**

Conversion.

**Red Corsair**

pretre wrote:
Is Sammael all plastic in that pic or just a conversion?

I believe its a standard speeder with extra guns and the new dark angles upgrade pack.

**Warhams-77**

All the parts for Sableclaw are in the old Ravenwing upgrade sprue(s) which are still available (e.g. in the old Biker Box and the new Dark Angels Battle Force)

**Red Corsair**

DA have grav now, I am guessing raven wing will be on par with white scars. I wonder if the banners still exist and what they now do though.

**Asmodai Asmodean**

MongooseMatt wrote:
Warhams-77 wrote:
MongooseMatt posted this a few pages ago - so the lack of Ravenwing Black Knights and other units is evidence that there are indeed more 'Detachments/Decurions' in the book than in the WD piccie

You ninja'd me

This all seems logical - the Greenwing detachment with RW and DW support, and then two more detachments to focus on DW and RW themselves.

Gentlemen, I think we Dark Angels, after many, many years, are officially sorted

Don't count your Watchers before they Detach

**ClassicCarraway**

lord_blackfang wrote:
Kinda rough that you have to take exactly 3 flyers.

That's been pretty standard now with these style of formations/detachments. The vanilla version requires 3 flyers, the Necron version does as well if I recall. Not sure about the Eldar version.

**Hulksmash**

Eldar does too.

**Warhams-77**

The Sammael head is from the new upgrade sprue, it was used because "it fits perfectly", but they point out in WD you could also use the RW ones

The old sprue - and the instruction in the old Battleforce set showed you how to build a Master of the Ravenwing on Jetbike with these parts

**Whumbachumba**

From my bad translating skills, the main Tactical Objective card says that if it is a Dark Angels specific card you get to keep it secret, otherwise reveal it as normal.

I'm not sure on the actual Tactical Objective. Looks like if you get it you can keep it up to three turns, netting you 1, 2, or D3+3 victory points. Not sure what you have to do to get the points, maybe pass a leadership test?

**Requizen**

ClassicCarraway wrote:
lord_blackfang wrote:
Kinda rough that you have to take exactly 3 flyers.

That's been pretty standard now with these style of formations/detachments. The vanilla version requires 3 flyers, the Necron version does as well if I recall. Not sure about the Eldar version.

Necron is 2-4 Doom Scythes, but I don't know how the points price matches up.

I'm interested in DA. They were the first Imperial army I ever considered buying, though I didn't end up going with them. The LE looks pretty solid, I like the style much more than the standard Codex.

I hope to see the Librarius Conclave show up and boosted to the level of the SM one. If Tigirius can harness on a 2+, surely Ezekiel can as well.

**MasterSlowPoke**

Dark Angels having secret objectives is actually kind of neat.

**lord_blackfang**

Was it 3rd edition where DA had to randomly pick an enemy character and hunt him down in melee?

**Warhams-77**

Whumbachumba wrote:
From my bad translating skills, the main Tactical Objective card says that if it is a Dark Angels specific card you get to keep it secret, otherwise reveal it as normal.

I'm not sure on the actual Tactical Objective. Looks like if you get it you can keep it up to three turns, netting you 1, 2, or D3+3 victory points. Not sure what you have to do to get the points, maybe pass a leadership test?

Yes, a LD test. You secretly decide how many player turns you want to stay at that objective. And you will fail that goal (and drop the mission card) if ANY friendly unit fails a Morale check before this time has passed. I guess you should write down how many turns on a piece of paper but the card is vague on that.

**Whumbachumba**

Warhams-77 wrote:
Whumbachumba wrote:
From my bad translating skills, the main Tactical Objective card says that if it is a Dark Angels specific card you get to keep it secret, otherwise reveal it as normal.

I'm not sure on the actual Tactical Objective. Looks like if you get it you can keep it up to three turns, netting you 1, 2, or D3+3 victory points. Not sure what you have to do to get the points, maybe pass a leadership test?

Yes, a LD test. You secretly decide how many player turns you want to stay at that objective. And you will fail that goal (and drop the mission card) if ANY friendly unit fails a Morale check before this time has passed. I guess you should write down how many turns on a piece of paper but the card is vague on that.

Thanks Warhams! I really should have paid more attention in German class.

Google translate only gets you so far.

**Warhams-77**

DakkaDakka is a good training for my (lack of) english skills. I would like to translate more of the leaks but I'm only at the PC from time to time.

@MongooseMatt

Beastrouille - Bolter & Chainsword

There is a leak from the french WD saying so.

The detachements are called Deathwing Strike Force and Ravenwing Strike Force.

Here is the image for those who read french:

For those who do not read french here is a quick translation:

second paragraph:

"Of course this is not the only way (i.e. the Lion's blade) to assemble a DA army. Instead of a DA semi-company why not use other detachements. A DW Strike Force would make a visually impressive army with all these bone-white armours [...]. Thanks to this detachment, itis possible to field a force constutited only of DA 1st company and lead by Belial or why not the new Terminator Librarian."

Third paragraph:

"The other detachement of the codex is the RW Strike Force including units from the second company only [...]"

EDIT: I forgot to credit the one who posted that in the first place. So thanks Master Avoghai (who I am sure you know already) to have posted that on the french DA forum

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303857-rumours-dark-angels-codex-interrogator-chaplain/page-35#entry4091042

YAY

**angelofvengeance**

Anyone wondering why one of those DW terminators in the DW Redemption force has a green helmet? I don't think it's anything to do with being a sergeant. Veteran status maybe?? For reference- DV squad with the Mace and SS guy out of coherency.

**Kanluwen**

That makes me kind of happy.

**DarkStarSabre**

angelofvengeance wrote:
Anyone wondering why one of those DW terminators in the DW Redemption force has a green helmet? I don't think it's anything to do with being a sergeant. Veteran status maybe?? For reference- DV squad with the Mace and SS guy out of coherency.

Uh...it's a studio member's personal army. Adam Troke iirc.

So he's got some tweaks in terms of colour scheme. Don't take it as much. Those aren't the 'official' studio Dark Angels. Those are a staffer's personal army.

**the_Armyman**

Warhams-77 wrote:

Spoiler:

Beastrouille - Bolter & Chainsword

There is a leak from the french WD saying so.

The detachements are called Deathwing Strike Force and Ravenwing Strike Force.

Here is the image for those who read french:

For those who do not read french here is a quick translation:

second paragraph:

"Of course this is not the only way (i.e. the Lion's blade) to assemble a DA army. Instead of a DA semi-company why not use other detachements. A DW Strike Force would make a visually impressive army with all these bone-white armours [...]. Thanks to this detachment, itis possible to field a force constutited only of DA 1st company and lead by Belial or why not the new Terminator Librarian."

Third paragraph:

"The other detachement of the codex is the RW Strike Force including units from the second company only [...]"

EDIT: I forgot to credit the one who posted that in the first place. So thanks Master Avoghai (who I am sure you know already) to have posted that on the french DA forum

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303857-rumours-dark-angels-codex-interrogator-chaplain/page-35#entry4091042

YAY

I have to be honest: I play Dark Angels, but green marines are my least favorite part. All I care about is if a pure Deathwing or Ravenwing army is viable. Not having to auto-take Belial and Sammael is a good start, but seeing the formation bonuses will be the deciding factor for me.

**CT GAMER**

DarkStarSabre wrote:
angelofvengeance wrote:
Anyone wondering why one of those DW terminators in the DW Redemption force has a green helmet? I don't think it's anything to do with being a sergeant. Veteran status maybe?? For reference- DV squad with the Mace and SS guy out of coherency.

Uh...it's a studio member's personal army. Adam Troke iirc.

So he's got some tweaks in terms of colour scheme. Don't take it as much. Those aren't the 'official' studio Dark Angels. Those are a staffer's personal army.

Which explains the OOP and very nostalgic scout models...

**Requizen**

the_Armyman wrote:
Warhams-77 wrote:

Spoiler:

Beastrouille - Bolter & Chainsword

There is a leak from the french WD saying so.

The detachements are called Deathwing Strike Force and Ravenwing Strike Force.

Here is the image for those who read french:

For those who do not read french here is a quick translation:

second paragraph:

"Of course this is not the only way (i.e. the Lion's blade) to assemble a DA army. Instead of a DA semi-company why not use other detachements. A DW Strike Force would make a visually impressive army with all these bone-white armours [...]. Thanks to this detachment, itis possible to field a force constutited only of DA 1st company and lead by Belial or why not the new Terminator Librarian."

Third paragraph:

"The other detachement of the codex is the RW Strike Force including units from the second company only [...]"

EDIT: I forgot to credit the one who posted that in the first place. So thanks Master Avoghai (who I am sure you know already) to have posted that on the french DA forum

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/303857-rumours-dark-angels-codex-interrogator-chaplain/page-35#entry4091042

YAY

I have to be honest: I play Dark Angels, but green marines are my least favorite part. All I care about is if a pure Deathwing or Ravenwing army is viable. Not having to auto-take Belial and Sammael is a good start, but seeing the formation bonuses will be the deciding factor for me.

Oh heck yes. I don't care how sub optimal it would be, I'd love to make a pure (or at least mostly) Deathwing army. If it's any good, that alone would get me to start collecting.

**Jambles**

Aww yeah, I'ma be "unsheathing the lion's blade" tonight if you know what I'm sayin, amirite guys? Yeah, you know what I'm sayin.

That example army looks awesome, some very cool conversions. I'm excited to see some actual rules, the formation looks pretty decent so far.

**Formosa**

130 terminators, 30 oldnators and 100 new, 40 ravenwing, 20 black knights, make it work gw and I'll get the other 40 bikes I need!

I'm really chuffed were getting our psychic powers back, dark angels and dark eldar are the 2 armies that should mess with people leadership the most, break their wills, that's what these armies should be like, sadly deldar have been screwed up, dark angels look like they are getting back on track.