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I have a feeling FW will be making arms soon enough. The roof, on the other hand...

If I wake up ion the morning and the ghostkeels stats are bad I'm going to be pissed. Assuming a leak happens at the same time as last week.

Forge World could make a canopy or cockpit cover. They make chapter-specific doors for the Imperium's tanks, after all, the cheapest package being £6.50.

If the Stealth Drone thing is true, maybe some will be sold separately by GW and will be an option for Pathfinder teams.

It should be also easy enough to greenstuff the open space and file it down if no one provides a canopy for it

SinisterSamurai wrote:
Forge World could make a canopy or cockpit cover. They make chapter-specific doors for the Imperium's tanks, after all, the cheapest package being £6.50.

If the Stealth Drone thing is true, maybe some will be sold separately by GW and will be an option for Pathfinder teams.

Those doors are replacements for existing pieces that probably make use of existing autoCAD images when they are produced. Very different from making a canopy to fit over a hole that is meant to be there.

The Stormsurge's open cockpit looks like it was intended to have a covering for it, but someone decided to leave it out.

I'd hazard a guess that it was one of those things like how the IG Taurox was designed with a fully detailed interior, and no way to look inside.

Then the Interior Designer wanted their work to be shown and this is how the Stormsurge ended up like this

I always thought the open cockpit thing was more of a balcony attached to the chest of the suit, so the pilot himself is safely within the armour. It's just the targeting redshirts that get exposed to artillery fire and such.

Or maybe there's a forcefield we don't know about?

In any case, it shouldn't be hard to get some kind of plasticard covering to hide them.


On a different note - what does everyone think the 'Armoured Interdiction Cadre' will do? Will it confer the same benefits as the old Apoc formation whence it derives?

Honestly I don't mind the open cockpit at all. Rule of cool more often than not comes before "realism" or whatever in my book.

The sculptors did a great job in the cockpit, and if there was a cover you wouldn't be able to see it. I mean just look at every Imperial vehicle ever. How many do you know that actually paint the inside of a Rhino? No one, because it won't be seen anyway.

I like the model over all, but then again I have a soft spot for all things mech, even the ridiculous missile "arms". I think it's unique and badass. I'm also a huge fan of that article in the White Dwarf that shows the thing standing upright, looks great! It's nice to see GW embracing conversions, at least a little bit.

Just been sent through to retailers for orders next week;

TAU XV95 GHOSTKEEL BATTLESUIT £45
A multi-part plastic boxed set that makes one XV95 Ghostkeel Battlesuit on a 105mm oval base and with two MV5 Stealth Drones. This Battlesuit stands taller than a Broadside Battlesuit and can be armed with a selection of new and deadly weaponry, plus several Battlesuit upgrades. It has sophisticated anti-targeting devices that make it very hard to hit in battle. The kit also contains two new drones that help to protect the Ghostkeel from incoming fire.

Also, being reboxed;

Pathfinder Team
TX4 Piranha
TY7 Devilfish
XV25 Stealth Battlesuits
XV88 Broadside Battlesuit

Probably just for the new transfers and boxart.

Very Cool. I like that the Ghostkeel comes on a 105mm oval. I could see it being taller than a carnifex on that sort of base. I'll have to get a couple of those upon release i guess.

105mm? Isn't that the same size as the base the Skitarii Dragoons are mounted on?

edit.

Did a quick check and yes, same size, very nice! Maybe it can be stuck onto a 60mm base after all.

huh.... Im putting of getting anything until We know if there are new fire warriors.

From what i understand the HH game and something else 40k related are after this. then its back to AoS

Here's my official guess at the new Fire Warrior weapon we've seen in the stormsurge pictures - Pulse Shotgun. Range: 12". S5 AP5, Blast, Assault 1. designed for brave fire warrior teams who lead breaching assaults. support teams destroy enemy transport vehicles and the breachers take out the clumped up infantry with extreme prejudice.

Just a guess. Any other guesses?

I'm thinking something like assault 3 pinning, or assault 2 shread.

Agreed, something along the lines of reworked carbines.

I really hope its not a pulse shotgun, sorry, not sorry, but its a really dumb idea (and those rules will never happen anyway).

Why is it dumb (especially compared to the rest of 40k)? Shotguns make sense for close-ranged, shock troopers. Especially in places like cramped cites or for ship-to-ship boarding or defense.

Oh i don't think a shotgun would be a good gun for a tau to have. But i can see it's thematic use from a narrative standpoint. Plus a infantry wielded blast weapon en masse would be pretty new to the codex. I'm probably wrong but i could definitely see the utility of dumping out of a devilfish, having a broadside team shred apart a rhino, then tossing 6-12 blasts at the clumped up marines. the fire warriors would inevitably die in the next turn, but it'd still be cool to do once.

Edit - give it a "charged pulse slug" firing mode for s6ap5 18" range assault 1. That might make it good. but i digress - wishlisting clogs the forum. sorry guys.

Isn't the flechette launcher basically a shotgun? I don't see why an infantry version is a bad thing.

It's a bit like a shotgun, but it's for people who are super close (i.e. hitting it with bits of metal).

I don't think that it will be a shotgun-style weapon. Since it has two barrels, I can give it two shots (Assault 2), probably at short range (12"), and with some knockback-effect to represent the CQC nature of the weapon (Concussive is most likely, maybe Strikedown).

All pulse weapons are two barreled. Although this does appear to have some sort of third barrel.

 AtoMaki wrote:
I don't think that it will be a shotgun-style weapon. Since it has two barrels, I can give it two shots (Assault 2), probably at short range (12"), and with some knockback-effect to represent the CQC nature of the weapon (Concussive is most likely, maybe Strikedown).

Space Marine shotguns are assault 2, 12", s4 ap5. this might just be that, but at s5 because tau. (which would make it terrible when the carbine is the same thing at 18" with pinning. that's why i speculated a blast style weapon for variety).

 AtoMaki wrote:
I don't think that it will be a shotgun-style weapon. Since it has two barrels, I can give it two shots (Assault 2), probably at short range (12"), and with some knockback-effect to represent the CQC nature of the weapon (Concussive is most likely, maybe Strikedown).

Err you know they make double barreled shotguns right? lol.

 angelofvengeance wrote:

 AtoMaki wrote:
I don't think that it will be a shotgun-style weapon. Since it has two barrels, I can give it two shots (Assault 2), probably at short range (12"), and with some knockback-effect to represent the CQC nature of the weapon (Concussive is most likely, maybe Strikedown).

Err you know they make double barreled shotguns right? lol.

The twin "barrels" on Pulse Weapons are not for actually firing two different shots.

Look at any of the art of Pulse Rifles or Carbines firing. It uses the twin "barrels" to create a pulsed induction field and hurl bursts of plasma.

All pulse weapons are two barreled. Although this does appear to have some sort of third barrel.

Yeah, and pulse weapons fire two shots (either from being Assault 2 or Rapid Fire), so this weapons is going to do the same . The third "barrel" is in fact just optics.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Space Marine shotguns are assault 2, 12", s4 ap5. this might just be that, but at s5 because tau. (which would make it terrible when the carbine is the same thing at 18" with pinning. that's why i speculated a blast style weapon for variety).

Blast is out because the weapon is too small for that. I can only see some sort of lesser special rule like Concussive.

 AtoMaki wrote:

All pulse weapons are two barreled. Although this does appear to have some sort of third barrel.

Yeah, and pulse weapons fire two shots (either from being Assault 2 or Rapid Fire), so this weapons is going to do the same . The third "barrel" is in fact just optics.

The number of "barrels" has nothing to do with the number of shots. Pulse Pistols have two of them but fire one shot.

 tetrisphreak wrote:
Space Marine shotguns are assault 2, 12", s4 ap5. this might just be that, but at s5 because tau. (which would make it terrible when the carbine is the same thing at 18" with pinning. that's why i speculated a blast style weapon for variety).

Blast is out because the weapon is too small for that. I can only see some sort of lesser special rule like Concussive.

After them putting Blast on Grenadier Gauntlets? I would not say that it's "too small".

The new gun shown in the hands of those new Fire Warriors is pretty much a reworked carbine, minus the grenade launcher that it previously had.

 BrookM wrote:
The new gun shown in the hands of those new Fire Warriors is pretty much a reworked carbine, minus the grenade launcher that it previously had.

I'd say that's a good thing. Carbines losing Pinning is a great thing!