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My local store was told it was limited, but I guess that still doesn't mean much. The big box could still be limited and everything could be sold individually later like the other terrain. I think it's odd that the terrain isn't being sold individually to start with, though, since I'm pretty sure the Wall of Martyrs stuff was all available individually as well as in the box set when it first came out, and if I'm not mistaken the White Dwarf only listed the Tidewall Rampart box.

I also think it's odd they would name all the constituent parts of the Tidewall if you can only ever buy them as part of this specific box set, but that might not mean anything anyway. Maybe the rules allow for you to field only a Gunrig or Shieldline instead of the whole thing.

Anyway, when do pre-orders usually go up in the U.S.? It'll probably sell out immediately anyway, but I'm curious.

 Sidstyler wrote:
My local store was told it was limited, but I guess that still doesn't mean much. The big box could still be limited and everything could be sold individually later like the other terrain. I think it's odd that the terrain isn't being sold individually to start with, though, since I'm pretty sure the Wall of Martyrs stuff was all available individually as well as in the box set when it first came out, and if I'm not mistaken the White Dwarf only listed the Tidewall Rampart box.

I also think it's odd they would name all the constituent parts of the Tidewall if you can only ever buy them as part of this specific box set, but that might not mean anything anyway. Maybe the rules allow for you to field only a Gunrig or Shieldline instead of the whole thing.

Anyway, when do pre-orders usually go up in the U.S.? It'll probably sell out immediately anyway, but I'm curious.

I'd say you're spot on: the box comes with all the terrain, but you don't have to field all of it.

I expect plenty of people to simply make their own counts-as versions if the rules are good enough, even if the Tidewall Rampart isn't limited.

Wall of Martyrs started as the big box set as well, then individual ones later. WD mentions seem to go with the "individual fortifications datasheets + combined defense network option" like wall of Martyrs.


I put in a dibs for one from my FLGS, who tends to get at least 1-2 of all the LE stuff like the Void Shield or Plasma Obliterator so I'm pretty confident of getting one there, instead of trying to fight for one on GWUS website.

Limited Edition codex cover

Which also means someone has access to the WD with this picture in it.

Interesting that it still doesn't seem to be advertised as limited stock.

Pre-ordering anyway, just in case!

Yeah I ordered one just in case. And if it is not a limited thing it is not the end of the world. Would have spent the money on miniatures anyway

 Medium of Death wrote:
What do the Breacher backpacks do? They're not some kind of drop troop are they?

The breacher backpacks are most likely field amplifiers which increase the models invul save they get from the new shield drone from a 6++ to a 5++.

Wow, is it just me or is the Ethereal who comes with that new "Infiltration Cadre Burning Dawn" set an appalling sculpt?

I mean the muscles make his arms look as if they've come from a Catachan kit with Tau bracelets added on

And the face just looks weird to me, too, like he's had way too much plastic surgery and lost all expression.

The face i rather bad I agree but the look of it as a whole I really like. This is how a Ethereal should look if you ask me. As on the cover of the softcover codex.

Tidewall is sold out on GW UK website; hope Wayland get enough to fulfil my order?!

Sweden is out too

 Sidstyler wrote:

Anyway, when do pre-orders usually go up in the U.S.? It'll probably sell out immediately anyway, but I'm curious.

They go live at 1pm Eastern; but sometimes are up as early as 12:40pm Eastern.

You go out in the morning... pick up your WD... come home. Have a quick look through and decide, yeah, that Tidewall looks good. Go online to order and it's not just out of stock... it's no longer available.

They killed WFB which I played and now it's becoming impossible to even play 40k with people on a even footing.

Guess I have to hope that M.edge catches on in my area.

Look on the bright side, scratch building a tidewall should be pretty easy, there have been plenty of official GW instructions on making incredibly effective and cheap tau terrain. Now the tidewall is OOP (lol) we have "no choice" but to save our £90 and build our own. Unfortunately I have no railguns left.... to ebay!

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
You go out in the morning... pick up your WD... come home. Have a quick look through and decide, yeah, that Tidewall looks good. Go online to order and it's not just out of stock... it's no longer available.

They killed WFB which I played and now it's becoming impossible to even play 40k with people on a even footing.

Guess I have to hope that M.edge catches on in my area.

They didn't kill WFB, you can play with the most current rule book and your armies all you want, and also play AoS which is actually pretty fun.

Also, this is just a bundle of the new Tau scenery, the rest will most likely get released separately and not be limited.

People these days are so negative and "the world is ending" attitude! Or maybe that's just the Internet community.

Wow. That didn't take long. Some serious Tau crack addicts out there.

Why does this need to be a limited run thing anyways? It makes zero sense. I get that it encourages impulse buys, but wouldn't they sell more than the 2k-ish kits they made in this one run over the course of a year?

What time does the GW website usually update anyways?

 Mulletdude wrote:
Why does this need to be a limited run thing anyways? It makes zero sense. I get that it encourages impulse buys, but wouldn't they sell more than the 2k-ish kits they made in this one run over the course of a year?

As it stands, there is no indication that this is a limited run item in any format beyond this boxed set--i.e. "Once it's gone, you'll never be able to get it again" like the Plasma Obliterator was. This release method matches up to how the Wall of Martyrs set was released(big box with all the components released first with a limited availability , individual components later).

What time does the GW website usually update anyways?

1pm Eastern is when it goes live in the US, with all the banners and whatnots, but sometimes the preorders are up as early as 12:35-12:40pm Eastern.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:
You go out in the morning... pick up your WD... come home. Have a quick look through and decide, yeah, that Tidewall looks good. Go online to order and it's not just out of stock... it's no longer available.

They killed WFB which I played and now it's becoming impossible to even play 40k with people on a even footing.

Guess I have to hope that M.edge catches on in my area.

Noctem wrote:

They didn't kill WFB, you can play with the most current rule book and your armies all you want, and also play AoS which is actually pretty fun.

No more support... all the local players stopped playing... yeah... GW killed off WFB in my eyes.

Noctem wrote:

Also, this is just a bundle of the new Tau scenery, the rest will most likely get released separately and not be limited.

So why don't GW tell us this. Or, judging by the continual amount of people always peeved with the limited releases, why don't they just make more, therefore selling more, make more money, and keeping more people in the game as purchasers?

Noctem wrote:

People these days are so negative and "the world is ending" attitude! Or maybe that's just the Internet community.

Nah... When you've watched your healthy school club of (nearly always) 15-20 players slowly dwindle away to 1 player (and myself - the teacher) you realise GW's world is ending.
Every year at my club as the elder 4-5 pupils left school, 4-5 more would join in the newest year group. Nowadays, they turn up, look interested, then come back the next week having looked up the price of figures on the net and are never seen again.

In the last year and a half, I've tried (and failed) to purchase the following items:

Space Hulk
Nagash Hardback Rulebook
Lore of Undeath magic cards
Glottkin Hardback Rulebook
Dark Eldar objective cards
Leviathan campaign book
Khaine Hardback Rulebook
Battlemagic: End times cards

I guess it's GW's loss in the end and more money in the pocket of companies like Warlord and Mantic.

I got the mailing list email less than 2.5 hours ago, the dutch site lists it as sold as well, somehow I dont think its actually sold out, I mean how few kits could they have made lol. They prolly just did something wrong.

 Gimgamgoo wrote:


In the last year and a half, I've tried (and failed) to purchase the following items:

Space Hulk
Nagash Hardback Rulebook
Lore of Undeath magic cards
Glottkin Hardback Rulebook
Dark Eldar objective cards
Leviathan campaign book
Khaine Hardback Rulebook
Battlemagic: End times cards

I guess it's GW's loss in the end and more money in the pocket of companies like Warlord and Mantic.

To be fair GW doesn't print those cards and I don't blame them for wanting to keep stock up on every fething Data card considering how massive 40k has become, and everything else on your list is support materiel ie books they don't print themselves, for a game thats been dead since June. Space Hulk was always a novelty item for nostalgia and they even did a second run, I bought one like a sucker and I have never used it, I almost never fall for that hype either so it must be working.

The Tau terrain will end up sold in parts, rest assured.

Gimg, Gw's world is not ending at all. AoS has been successful and brought in a good amount of new players. The kits have never looked better, and I actually am seeing more players in my area than ever playing 40k, AoS, etc. I don't think you can base GW's world failing by your school's Warhammer club >.>

I had seen multiple books of the list you mentioned you failed to get on the shelves of multiple hobby stores a good amount of time after it was sold out online on Gw's website too.

Noctem wrote:
Gimg, Gw's world is not ending at all. AoS has been successful and brought in a good amount of new players. The kits have never looked better, and I actually am seeing more players in my area than ever playing 40k, AoS, etc. I don't think you can base GW's world failing by your school's Warhammer club >.>

I wasn't. The club in the nearest town, ironically a "40K club", now usually has a game (sometimes 2) of 40k, but most people are playing Bolt Action, Kings of War or X-Wing.

Noctem wrote:
I had seen multiple books of the list you mentioned you failed to get on the shelves of multiple hobby stores a good amount of time after it was sold out online on Gw's website too.

It's always so useful when someone tells you their local shop still has copies of game/book XXX on their shelf when you can't get them from your own local shop, or the online shops you regularly use, or the manufacturers website itself. :-(

I was speaking to my local model shop today. The owner has said he hasn't even sold the AoS box set (which was value for money), never mind any of the extras he has on the shelf. Apparently even his sales of WD dropped through all the AoS release schedule. Yeah, it's all local anecdotes, but they're the only type that bother me as that's the area I live in or can travel to, to game to. GW have killed off all interest in their own games in this area. If that was management's aim, then they can pat themselves on the back.

Ranting about GW again. There are other threads for that.

The discussion on GW's uncommunicativeness is not really relevant in the Tau rumour thread - especially since it's centred around AoS.

Slightly more on-topic: are we going to see a separate Commander kit which can either build an Enforcer or a Coldstar? If so, what will the Enforcer have to differentiate it?

100USD for 10 troop models.....
what the hell gw? thats more than double the price. I dont care if it has 20 heads i cant make 20 models from it. Biggest price hyke yet holy crap.

 Vineheart01 wrote:
100USD for 10 troop models.....
what the hell gw? thats more than double the price. I dont care if it has 20 heads i cant make 20 models from it. Biggest price hyke yet holy crap.

Are you on the AU site?

 Vineheart01 wrote:
100USD for 10 troop models.....
what the hell gw? thats more than double the price. I dont care if it has 20 heads i cant make 20 models from it. Biggest price hyke yet holy crap.

I thought the FW breacher squads were 50USD for 10?

 Vineheart01 wrote:
100USD for 10 troop models.....
what the hell gw? thats more than double the price. I dont care if it has 20 heads i cant make 20 models from it. Biggest price hyke yet holy crap.

100USD? Huh? Are you sure you're looking at the right website? They are $100 for New Zealanders, but $50 USD.


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 Vineheart01 wrote:
100USD for 10 troop models.....
what the hell gw? thats more than double the price. I dont care if it has 20 heads i cant make 20 models from it. Biggest price hyke yet holy crap.

Are you on the AU site?

Not even the AU site, that's the New Zealand price.

Well....thats facepalm worthy...

I guess it reset my country of origin somehow. Never had that happen before without it just asking me where im from.

Nevermind lol