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Is it just me, or did prices go up? 125 for a stealth team with fusion blaster and marker light drone; 117 under the old codex (+5 FB, +10 Sha'vre, +12 Drone).

55 for a Piranha with FB? 50 in the old codex.

Could be I'm missing something, though.

vitae_drinker wrote:
Is it just me, or did prices go up? 125 for a stealth team with fusion blaster and marker light drone; 117 under the old codex (+5 FB, +10 Sha'vre, +12 Drone).

55 for a Piranha with FB? 50 in the old codex.

Could be I'm missing something, though.

Yes, was 50 for a Piranha with FB in the old codex, but the new one also has a BS4 vs BS3 in the old codex.

240 for a 10 man pathfinder team and three drones?!? Great googly moogly!

I lack the time to post them all but there are new pics of the upcoming White Dwarf in this Gamestrust.de gallery:

http://www.gamestrust.de/produkt,bilder,warhammer-40-000-tau-empire,id1479.html

These are old and new pics - I guess at the end are the new ones (not sure)

The campaign book (60 EUR like the Shield of Ball books)



LE Codex



Codex




And a few more WD pics - Commander

http://www.gamestrust.de/news,warhammer-40-000-tau-empire-bilder-wd-91-cover-codex-kauyon-datakarten,id46622.html


Unboxing of the Rampart Tidewall

http://www.gamestrust.de/news,warhammer-40-000-sternenreich-tau-bilder-tidewall-rampart-gussrahmen-regeln,id46614.html

Do, do..

Am I mis-reading this or do stealth teams have invisability?

Edit: actually, perhaps not, I think that's infiltration instead.

hokieseas wrote:

vitae_drinker wrote:
Is it just me, or did prices go up? 125 for a stealth team with fusion blaster and marker light drone; 117 under the old codex (+5 FB, +10 Sha'vre, +12 Drone).

55 for a Piranha with FB? 50 in the old codex.

Could be I'm missing something, though.

Yes, was 50 for a Piranha with FB in the old codex, but the new one also has a BS4 vs BS3 in the old codex.

Okay, Piranha seems relatively unchanged. However, doesn't explain the price bump on Stealth teams and Pathfinders.

Hmmmm I don't know. Deathstorm and Stormclaw both had special unique character and rules or stat line higher than regular. The cost was the same as in the codex released 1 week after.

So there is a chance price have gone up but vanilla stat will be the same. So they might have been nerf or they have support systems or...

vitae_drinker wrote:
Is it just me, or did prices go up? 125 for a stealth team with fusion blaster and marker light drone; 117 under the old codex (+5 FB, +10 Sha'vre, +12 Drone).

55 for a Piranha with FB? 50 in the old codex.

Could be I'm missing something, though.

Everything's got the Bonding Knife Ritual upgrade as well, so keep that in mind. I've got the Stealth Team at 120 with current costs, but they also have the 'Precise Shots' special rule alongside their regular Infiltrate.

Precise Shots = Precision Shot, I assume. Not actually too bad with burst cannons, rolling a 6 with a fusion blaster would be hilarious though.

So they're reusing the "old" cover? Don't get me wrong as I like that cover but if you're fething charging $50 for a "new" book that largely reshashes the old to replace one that is just two years old then at least fething pay an artist to make a new cover. Not to mention the confusion this will ADD to second hand sales (that they admittedly don't give a rat's ass about). It's hard enough to get folks to notice that they're not buying a current version of the Dark Angel codex but rather the two year old "replaced" version that looks similar but has a different marine on the cover let alone a codex that reuses the same cover as the book it replaces.

Ah, seems they have a special character in the Pathfinders that may explain the massive difference.

Warhams-77 wrote:

http://www.gamestrust.de/uploads/gallery/1263/pic-29360.jpg

Heh... I like how GW tries to counter the "Tau women are cute+pretty animu chicks" thing by making every Tau woman ugly like hell .

Ehh, they only visual difference between tau males and females is a Y instead of a l on the head. Alien girls won't look pretty to us, and tau won't care about looks.

 Co'tor Shas wrote:
Ehh, they only visual difference between tau males and females is a Y instead of a l on the head. Alien girls won't look pretty to us, and tau won't care about looks.

Indeed. Folks need to get out of the Star Trek mindset that all alien "females" should look like strippers dressed in a nightie with $15 of off the shelf makup kit at a halloween party.

 AtoMaki wrote:


Heh... I like how GW tries to counter the "Tau women are cute+pretty animu chicks" thing by making every Tau woman ugly like hell .

It actually makes sense that aliens don't meet human standards for attractive qualities. Though I'm not sure if this is intentional or just bad modeling/art.

Dr. Delorean wrote:
German translation is new to me too , currently I'm relying on Google.

I'd much prefer it be Relentless though, they could move and shoot their rail rifles that way, and an Ethereal could make Broadsides move and fire

Rail Rifles are Rapid Fire. Relentless would help them... dare I say it... CHARGE an enemy after firing at them!
On the other hand, Relentless is very good for Pathfinders. mobile markerlights are nice.

vitae_drinker wrote:240 for a 10 man pathfinder team and three drones?!? Great googly moogly!

I hope these guys get a helluva lot of special rules. I'm not keen on spending a Y'vahra for pathfinders

vitae_drinker wrote:
240 for a 10 man pathfinder team and three drones?!? Great googly moogly!

Point Cost-wise,that's only 12 points over a current codex unit of similar build without 2 bonus USRs,and one unique special rule. (Though Ignore Cover purely for Starshroud's Pulse Carbine is only nominally useful)

there is an additional cost in squad build flexibility...but this again seems about right.

Warhams-77 wrote:
I lack the time to post them all but there are new pics of the upcoming White Dwarf in this Gamestrust.de gallery:

http://www.gamestrust.de/produkt,bilder,warhammer-40-000-tau-empire,id1479.html

These are old and new pics - I guess at the end are the new ones (not sure)

The campaign book (60 EUR like the Shield of Ball books)



LE Codex



Codex




And a few more WD pics - Commander

http://www.gamestrust.de/news,warhammer-40-000-tau-empire-bilder-wd-91-cover-codex-kauyon-datakarten,id46622.html


Unboxing of the Rampart Tidewall

http://www.gamestrust.de/news,warhammer-40-000-sternenreich-tau-bilder-tidewall-rampart-gussrahmen-regeln,id46614.html

Work blocked - anyone host/post?

Next week is (careful, translated back to english from the german translation)

"Support from Azyr, death from the stars, the Tidewall takes off (from the ground)."

In my opinion this will be an AoS and 40k mixed issue, with maybe a new AoS book, reboxed Lizardmen kits and the Tidewall sold separately.

GW already announced on their website that the separate Tidewall boxes will be available on October 31st 2015.

So the codex uses the same cover art and the special edition is just the same picture but white washed?

Am I missing something?

One thing concerns me - none of the WD leaks show a Tau variant of the Decurion/Gladius Strike Force, as far as I know all of the previous WDs have had that previewed.

They wouldn't abandon the pattern now, would they?

 Dr. Delorean wrote:
One thing concerns me - none of the WD leaks show a Tau variant of the Decurion/Gladius Strike Force, as far as I know all of the previous WDs have had that previewed.

They wouldn't abandon the pattern now, would they?

They won't.

Apparently the Elemental Invocations are the same? Hello Storm of Fire Stormsurges

Okay regarding the recycled Codex cover, wow that's a new thing

This Codex is officially an updated book - basicall 6.5. Also the Campaign book contais all the new stuff for Tau, so if you have the old Tau Codex you can skip the new Codex and just buy the campaign book - I'm not kidding you. These are Games Workshops words in the item description.

The Tau detachmant is called Hunter Contingent and there are nine formations in the Codex/campaign book.

At least two of the Warlord Traits are the same, too.

The SC Ethereal has Exemplar of the Selfless Cause (combine with a Tidewall for shenanigans), and the example Datacard has Precision of the Skilled Hunter.

Wait. So then they aren't really updating it, just adding in a few new units?

Warhams-77 wrote:
Okay regarding the recycled Codex cover, wow that's a new thing

This Codex is officially an updated book - basicall 6.5. Also the Campaign book contais all the new stuff for Tau, so if you have the old Tau Codex you can skip the new Codex and just buy the campaign book - I'm not kidding you. These are Games Workshops words in the item description.

The Tau detachmant is called Hunter Contingent and there are nine formations in the Codex/campaign book.

Good old GW laziness. "Instead of fixing or improving the army, let's just sell people the same book but with a couple new pages. Brilliant!"

Warhams-77 wrote:
Okay regarding the recycled Codex cover, wow that's a new thing

This Codex is officially an updated book - basicall 6.5. Also the Campaign book contais all the new stuff for Tau, so if you have the old Tau Codex you can skip the new Codex and just buy the campaign book - I'm not kidding you. These are Games Workshops words in the item description.

The Tau detachmant is called Hunter Contingent and there are nine formations in the Codex/campaign book.

So the Hunter Contingent and the accompanying 9 formations are included in both the Codex and the Campaign book?

So effectively we'll know everything about the new Tau this weekend when the campaign box is released and can be used?

Also some printed WS and RG Space Marine Data cards



The description says these objectives are in the campaign book as well. In addition the campaign book has more rules for RG, WS and Tau.

I think I preferred the special edition (plastic cover, broadside and riptide on opposite sides) of the last release.

So if this is an update does that mean that people will still be able to use their Farisght Enclaves books?

 Medium of Death wrote:
I think I preferred the special edition (plastic cover, broadside and riptide on opposite sides) of the last release.

So if this is an update does that mean that people will still be able to use their Farisght Enclaves books?

As long as the name of the source codex is the same, it should be fine.

The campaign boxes have not much to do with the new two-book Kauyon set This set is going preorder at the same date as the Codex/LE Codex. The description of the Codex says - word for word - If you already own the former Tau Codex the Campaign book will provide all the new rules. But it is pretty vague what that means. Better wait for the final judgement when we know what the english text says about the formations. From the german text only it clearly means ALL the new stuff except the updated fluff, uniform guides and other non-rule information is in the Campaign book set as well.

Sounds a lot like the Edition 3.5 books.