New Tau Release: Stormsurge, Ghostkeel, Coldstar, Breachers, Crisis, Tidewall!. Codex coming!

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**Vector Strike**

Orrus wrote:
Are codex pre-orders up tomorrow or is that another week away?

tomorrow. codex will be officially released 31st

**Talys**

Orrus wrote:
Are codex pre-orders up tomorrow or is that another week away?

Codex preorders are up tomorrow. They will be released next Saturday. Yipeee!

My big disappointment? They're softcover. BOO! I wouldn't care except that *every other codex* is hardcover. GW should see a cheaper softcover and a more expensive hardcover. Ironically, you'd have people who would buy *both*. AND the electronic version!

**Tau Skyfire**

Is Iridium Armour a still 1 per army thing or has that become more standard issue?

**nudibranch**

Interesting bit of description from the Battle Suit team blurb:
" One model in the kit can even be built as the new, experimental Iridium-class XV8-02 Crisis Battlesuit - distinguishable by its thicker armour and aggressive appearance."
It actually has parts for the iridium suit, as seen on the red suit, I believe.

**Caederes**

Only the non-English ones are softcover. Pre-orders are up for NZ and the codex is hardcover.

**Vector Strike**

Tau Skyfire wrote:Is Iridium Armour a still 1 per army thing or has that become more standard issue?

Iridium is 1/army

11 - 1 VP if one enemy unit that assault last turn is destroyed

12 - 1 VP if one enemy unit is destroyed by a unit that is in your deployement zone

13 - 1 VP if one unit is destroyed of fails a moral check. If 3 or more, D3 VP

14 - 1 VP if one unit is completly at 12" of one border of the battleflied and another unit in the opposite border.

15 - 1VP if a unit that starts the turn at 9" of any unit of your army and its not in its deployment zone is destroyed

16 - D3 VP if you control an Objective that was under the control of the opponent at the beginning of the turn. 3+D3 VP if 3 Objetives. 1 additional VP if no model is lost during this turn.

By the way, datacards are only objetives and warlord traits. Nothing else.

Bonding Knife Ritual is the same
Only Coldstar can grab the HOBC

Talys wrote:
Orrus wrote:
Are codex pre-orders up tomorrow or is that another week away?

Codex preorders are up tomorrow. They will be released next Saturday. Yipeee!

My big disappointment? They're softcover. BOO! I wouldn't care except that *every other codex* is hardcover. GW should see a cheaper softcover and a more expensive hardcover. Ironically, you'd have people who would buy *both*. AND the electronic version!

Isn't the english version hardcover?

**A Town Called Malus**

Vineheart01 wrote:
Oh man i never thought about that with hammerhead squads...

3 railheads with tankhunter. Thats just gravy. Wonder if we got a way to give them splitfire/targetlocks lol (since 3 railshots at a rhino is kinda overkill)

I doubt it. That would require thinking about how a squadron of Hammerheads should actually work.

Also, bonding knife ritual stays the same and so is useless on Crisis/Broadside units still. Well done GW.

**Vector Strike**

Drones are as always. Missiles drones only for Broadsides. Strike teams can purchase the 6+ Drone, but they do not have or can purchase the amplifier thing. Pathfinders drones are the same.

I am really surprised, but the Tidewall is NOT in the codex.

So MV52 is only for Ghostkeel, the 6++ only for both variants of FW

**Triszin**

Everything is Up on the TAU preorder on the New Zealand section of the Games workshop Website.

Wow, thats the worst value in any collectors edition from them I've seen. Passing. lol

**Tau Skyfire**

I have a question regarding the combining units thing - If I have my buffmander

- Commander w/Iridium Armour, C&C Node, PENC, MSSS, VRT, DC, SG, Stimulants, (2) Marker Drones

in this unit of crisis suits
(3) XV8 Crisis Suits w/(2) Missile Pods*, (3) Target Locks, (6) Marker Drones

can I fire the marker lights first at a target and then declare a combined unit will shoot using those marker lights? or do they have to be networked, otherwise i may have to have 2 commanders 1 for buffing combined shooting with MSSS, PENC C&C Node and 1 for providing markerlights to allow my stormsurge to get his SD missiles hitting home

**nudibranch**

Well, the new suits and the Coldstar are gorgeous. BTW, airburst frag projectors aren't listed as being in the XV8 box, so it seems unlikely that they'll be able to take them.

**Vector Strike**

Tau Skyfire wrote:
I have a question regarding the combining units thing - If I have my buffmander

- Commander w/Iridium Armour, C&C Node, PENC, MSSS, VRT, DC, SG, Stimulants, (2) Marker Drones

in this unit of crisis suits
(3) XV8 Crisis Suits w/(2) Missile Pods*, (3) Target Locks, (6) Marker Drones

can I fire the marker lights first at a target and then declare a combined unit will shoot using those marker lights? or do they have to be networked, otherwise i may have to have 2 commanders 1 for buffing combined shooting with MSSS, PENC C&C Node and 1 for providing markerlights to allow my stormsurge to get his SD missiles hitting home

They need to be networked. The moment the Markerdrones fire, the entire unit is firing, so you must declare their targets even before rolling dice. As their MLs aren't networked, you won't be able to enjoy them - nor any other unit doing the combined fire with this unit.

Looks like it's better to separate non-networked ML sources from real firepower now.

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Do Cadre Fireblades and their units still require to be still to grant Volley Fire?

What are the extra things Devilfishes have access now? Their page in WD seems to have more options than the 6e

Can Firesight Marksman (Sniper Drone Team) fire at a different target than the unit?

Does Stormsurge really miss Blacksun filter? Or is it listed somewhere in the armour page?

Are Riptides still forbidden to grab Vectored Retro-Thrusters?

1. Yes

2. Devilfish is 100% same

3. No

4. Does not have it or access to it.

5. Yes. Only Crisis and Stealth battlesuits can get one.

**Gamgee**

I'm deciding if I should get the Kauyon book now. I want to read more fluff of Tau kicking some Space Marine ass.

**A Town Called Malus**

The stormsurge, a long ranged artillery unit, doesn't have blacksun filters or any access to it, despite every other battlesuit in the Tau army having it?

Wow, that's so stupid

**Tau Skyfire**

Where are we going to get Skyray's from now? they cannot be taken as part of the hunter cadre formation as I am seeing it.

**maceria**

A Town Called Malus wrote:
The stormsurge, a long ranged artillery unit, doesn't have blacksun filters or any access to it, despite every other battlesuit in the Tau army having it?

Wow, that's so stupid

That's because it was embedded in the hatch that the pilots forgot to put on it!

**Deadawake1347**

A Town Called Malus wrote:
The stormsurge, a long ranged artillery unit, doesn't have blacksun filters or any access to it, despite every other battlesuit in the Tau army having it?

Wow, that's so stupid

That's because it's not a battlesuit.
Remember, they described it as a "ballistic suit", so that way they can break off from everything that's shared by every other battlesuit, like having armor between the pilot and enemy fire.

**Gamgee**

Tau Skyfire wrote:
Where are we going to get Skyray's from now? they cannot be taken as part of the hunter cadre formation as I am seeing it.

Allied detachment? Cheap as possible? Is that even worth it? They're pretty darned good units. I know I don't like Pathfinders much.

**krazynadechukr**

A Town Called Malus wrote:
The stormsurge, a long ranged artillery unit, doesn't have blacksun filters or any access to it, despite every other battlesuit in the Tau army having it?

Wow, that's so stupid

It will become available when you buy the $30 hatch for the model, rules included in the box!

**Vector Strike**

Tau Skyfire wrote:
Where are we going to get Skyray's from now? they cannot be taken as part of the hunter cadre formation as I am seeing it.

Armoured Interdiction Cadre, a CAD or unbound

**Gamgee**

A cad with 1 Etheral and 54 point minimum FW is a 104 point tax to take the two I regularly take.

I'm not sure they're worth it now. I just friggen bought my second one too damn it. -_-

**maceria**

If I'm reading right you can put them both in one squadron in the AIC.

**changemod**

What actually dangerous non-superheavy vehicles have higher than 11 rear armour burst cannons that always hit rear armour can't glance to death?

I mean, Land Raiders, sure, but those have very little firepower so who cares about those.

**GreyDragoon**

Remember all the tank and monstrous creatures are now unit sizes 1-3. So that entry in the AIC (if you're going for the decurion detachment) looks like it can fit up to 3 there. If you're gonna go that route.

**Vector Strike**

Gamgee wrote:A cad with 1 Etheral and 54 point minimum FW is a 104 point tax to take the two I regularly take.

I'm not sure they're worth it now. I just friggen bought my second one too damn it. -_-

Fws are 45p now. So for less than 100p you can take 9 Sky Rays. For less than 120 you give those FWs a DS8 turret just for the fun of it and put the Ethereal with Breachers

changemod wrote:What actually dangerous non-superheavy vehicles have higher than 11 rear armour burst cannons that always hit rear armour can't glance to death?

I mean, Land Raiders, sure, but those have very little firepower so who cares about those.

Sicaran has 12 behind
Mork/Gorkanaughts?

**GreyDragoon**

changemod wrote:
What actually dangerous non-superheavy vehicles have higher than 11 rear armour burst cannons that always hit rear armour can't glance to death?

I mean, Land Raiders, sure, but those have very little firepower so who cares about those.

Anything with void shields has ablative 12AV "wounds" you'll have to chew through first. Stompa. Tesseract Vault, Obelisk, the old pyramid, and all of the IG tanks have rear armor 12 or better. Hilariously the Revenant has only 10AV on the back. But let's be fair, you've got bigger problems with a Revenant. Better be going first

**Matt.Kingsley**

You consider the Orkanaughts to be dangerous?

**GreyDragoon**

Just answering the guys question

**Vineheart01**

A Town Called Malus wrote:
Vineheart01 wrote:
Oh man i never thought about that with hammerhead squads...

3 railheads with tankhunter. Thats just gravy. Wonder if we got a way to give them splitfire/targetlocks lol (since 3 railshots at a rhino is kinda overkill)

I doubt it. That would require thinking about how a squadron of Hammerheads should actually work.

Also, bonding knife ritual stays the same and so is useless on Crisis/Broadside units still. Well done GW.

Um, how is it useless on crisis/broadsides?

**SinisterSamurai**