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2015/12/16 15:39:12
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
evilsmurf wrote: Looking on the PB forums I saw reference to a 'zero incident' which seems to be referring to a person. Does anyone know what that was about?
Short answer, he was a backer that called up Palladium, March 18th 2014, and depending on who's side you believe, either verbally abused, or was abused verbally by, Palladium staff. As is usual, the truth is probably somewhere in between. Zero did not come across as particularly credible IMO, but I have doubts that the conversation went exactly as Wayne, who handled the internet communication (Jeff handled the initial phonecall) says it did.
You can read the back and forth starting here and scrolling up.
I find it funny that it's easily found as since that interaction, the Palladium Books account has only made three more comments. While not prolific, they did swing through the comments occasionally, but since the Zero incident, it's been three relatively unhelpful responses.
funny thing Morgan we all thought Zero was banned from the forums there in KS or refunded his money and kicked but it appears he wasn't he just essentially stopped posting except to post a link to another kickstarter, maybe he got back on his meds? or did PB buy him off? (Doubtful), or did he get a C&D ? (highly probable).
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
2015/12/16 16:45:27
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
evilsmurf wrote: Looking on the PB forums I saw reference to a 'zero incident' which seems to be referring to a person. Does anyone know what that was about?
Short answer, he was a backer that called up Palladium, March 18th 2014, and depending on who's side you believe, either verbally abused, or was abused verbally by, Palladium staff. As is usual, the truth is probably somewhere in between. Zero did not come across as particularly credible IMO, but I have doubts that the conversation went exactly as Wayne, who handled the internet communication (Jeff handled the initial phonecall) says it did.
You can read the back and forth starting here and scrolling up.
I find it funny that it's easily found as since that interaction, the Palladium Books account has only made three more comments. While not prolific, they did swing through the comments occasionally, but since the Zero incident, it's been three relatively unhelpful responses.
Thanks for that.
2015/12/17 16:29:21
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Stormonu wrote: T-minus 36 hours until absolutely nothing happens on this KS (referring to "A quick note from Kevin" non-update)
Yup. I fully expect more vague statements on progress (we edited a file! we sent an email), some reaffirming just how much they love us and how hard they're working (with nothing tangible to show for either), and a wet noodle repeat of the Q2 date with some sort of plausible deniability adjective like "ideal" or "working" or "potential" added to it somewhere for the inevitable delay. I'd say it's also 50/50 that they'll be asking last minute for someone to run impromptu games at Adepticon since they've apparently submitted no games at all to the con for prereg (at least as of a few weeks ago).
Also, T minus 6 months until absolutely nothing happens on this KS. That should cover the "rerelease" and the ancillary new products they'll try to sell us then (some of which were likely supposed to be free last summer) while giving us no good news on existing wave 2 rewards.
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2015/12/19 00:18:00
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
wow, just wow, the PB new weekly update on their site is up and not even a jazz hands mention of RRT in it. sad, just sad think they ran out of excuses.
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
2015/12/19 04:06:37
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
warboss wrote: Didn't Santa Kevin give us the original spartangate update for xmas 2013?
Nah, that was early 2014. I want to say March'ish.
Edit: yup. Late 2013 was showing off prototypes of the Booster Sled, with Support Pods, FPA , and the 2 Waves announcement in early 2014.
Heh, which led me to them not having updates on the KS between Dec 2nd 2014 (about overseas shipping, we all know how well that went), and Jan 13 (ROW! lawl).
This year we're ending on 'you haven't been forgotten'.
*jazz hands*
They have apologized countless times about issues with communication. Stop fething apologizing and just do better so there's nothing to apologize for (at least on that front).
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2015/12/20 03:19:29
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Yesterday evening was Palladium’s Office Party. Kathy cooked, so the food was wonderful. All the guys were there, plus a few friends. About eight of us in total. A rather small gathering, but you wouldn’t know it by the sounds of laughter and boisterous chatter.
I was a little surprised, because it had been a very, busy week. And Friday was one of those non-stop work days with a lot going on. By the end of Friday, we were all feeling wiped out. The Rifter® Double Issue arrived and between it and Christmas Surprise packages we spent a lot of time in the warehouse pulling, packing, signing books and shipping product. We got most of books for The Rifter® subscribers into the mail and distributor orders out. In fact, I’d have to say pulling orders dominated much of the week.
We were only just wrapping up the day at 7:00 P.M., Friday, when the party was to start, and we were all warn out and dragging. Poor Chuck Walton had been suffering from a severe migraine headache all day long (not that it stopped him from working) and he wasn’t sure he could make it to the party. Julius looked exhausted and the rest of the crew looked quite ruffled.
However, once the party started, we were like goofy kids, laughing and shouting, and sharing stories of all kind. I think eating helped refuel our energy, and then good company and friendship did the rest. There were plenty of hugs and gift giving, lots of laughter, and tales of my original Palladium Fantasy game involving the Defilers. And why not, there were for us present. For some reason, we’ve been talking a lot about those early gaming experiences and the Detroit Gaming Center. I think it started with the article I wrote for The Rifter #71-72. Chuck is just enthralled by the stories and he wants me to write them down in one form or another. He has even suggested my hosting a weekend Game Mastering seminar, like a mini-Palladium Open House that was only a day or two long and focused entirely on improvisation, storytelling and GMing. God bless him, he seems to think I have epic and advanced role-playhing concepts and experience that every G.M. should hear about.
The night was a pleasant end to a crazy busy week. And I couldn’t help marveling at how lucky I am know all these sweet, brilliant, wonderful people. Over the years, we’ve all become close friends. We have each other’s backs through thick and thin, and you could not ask for nicer, kinder, more caring and generous people on the planet. Pretty freakin’ awesome. Being in their company made me feel proud and happy.
And it goes beyond the Palladium staff. The freelance artists and writers at Palladium are wonderful people I’m honored and proud to call my friends: Allen, Amy, Apollo, Ben, Brian, Brandon, Braden, Carl, Carmen, Dud, Eric, Freddie, Glen, Greg, Irvin, Jason, Jeff H., John, Joe, Kent, Mark O, Matt, Mike L., Mike M., Mike W. Nick, Ramon, Scott, Tanya, Taylor, Wayne, and ... geez, the list could go on and on (and I hope those I have not specifically mentioned, don’t feel left out; I love all of you). All of them, amazing people, who – whenever I start to loose to faith in the world – remind me that there are good people out there.
So even though I’m back at the office working the umpteenth Saturday and Sunday in a row, I’m feeling content and blessed. I have a job I love and I work with people I love. It doesn’t get better than that. Hmmm, actually it does get better than that. Because I write for a fan bases of equally awesome individuals. I have met so many wonderful fans over the last 34 years. Some of whom have also become friends.
I guess, I just wanted to say thank you, all of you, for making my life so rich and rewarding. You and our games mean the world to me. I hope you know that.
Merry Christmas.
Sincerely,
Kevin Siembieda
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
2015/12/20 04:00:59
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
but it wasn't the spartangate episode as you said but rather the zentraedi. It's a vain and pointless hope but maybe Palladium will deflate their egos allowing them to finally pull their heads out of their asses and do something meaningful this year.
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2015/12/20 08:43:00
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
but it wasn't the spartangate episode as you said but rather the zentraedi. It's a vain and pointless hope but maybe Palladium will deflate their egos allowing them to finally pull their heads out of their asses and do something meaningful this year.
Wow, I didn't even remember they had the Glaug-eclaire* way back at the end of 2013. That really shows how they've done nothing for close to two years now. If they'd just have gotten off the pot, they could have had this catastrophe done with by now.
* Yes, I know that's wrong. It's intentional.
It never ends well
2015/12/23 03:02:15
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Cypher-xv wrote: So in a year or two when PB's RT license runs out will Kevin be able to pocket our money with no consequences, except for their rep?
with this apathetic backer crowd? yes, if the backers do nothing PB will go on and continue to do what they have been doing for the past 30 years with the consent of their willing fans.
I have outlined what backers are to do till i'm blue in the face, if you guys want to let PB get away with what it is and will do then so be it, I will get my money back but cannot speak for the rest of the backer lot.
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
2015/12/23 03:40:11
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Palladium will do whatever they want regardless of what backers do. They'll draw this farce out until they lose the license or run out of money as it is likely slowly bleeding away paying some part of every bill they have (you need electricity after all to email once weekly for Robotech and a phone to make a call once a week for the project so Robotech should pay for part of it all for years!).
If we're "lucky", we'll get some janky PVC flash-filled mess of one piece minis in late 2016 or 2017 that make my old battletech unseen starter from the 1980's look nice.
2015/12/23 03:53:39
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
Palladium will do whatever they want regardless of what backers do. They'll draw this farce out until they lose the license or run out of money as it is likely slowly bleeding away paying some part of every bill they have (you need electricity after all to email once weekly for Robotech and a phone to make a call once a week for the project so Robotech should pay for part of it all for years!).
If we're "lucky", we'll get some janky PVC flash-filled mess of one piece minis in late 2016 or 2017 that make my old battletech unseen starter from the 1980's look nice.
sorry warboss, you are not lucky you are not getting anything, none of the lazy backers are getting anything, now tell PB Thank You for treating you like crud and go back to doing nothing and taking the lies passed out by PB.
Thinks Palladium books screwed the pooch on the Robotech project.
