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On the other side I have redone the format I was using to something I hope is easier and more consistent for using RRT stuff with Nodal Wars. I also hope to be at the local convention to demo the game, even if I don't have an "Official" book for local players that might like what they see. I'll have some fliers with a link to the Facebook page. I'll also have some Bioroids and Battletech to use for Demos. I might bring some destroids and VT's too.

Shameless plug on the new cards.....feel free to make suggestions on the format.

It's funny seeing a major symptom if PB's problems attempt to apply lipstick to a Simbieda-shaped pig and fail so spectacularly.

Was at Kennedy Space Center today, renewed my respect for Apollo 13.
Managed not to leave any "gifts" for PB when driving through Detroit to get here.
Apollo 13 is termed a "successful failure", if only PB could claim so well.
At Disney now to have fun times, resorts by these guys set a new standard for service. Dare I snark about PB service?

Well, back to looking at the tech for the Mars program and the inflatable bouncy castle they plan on using for an extended living space on the way there... cool stuff.


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Hey! American flag next to profile... still Canadian though.
Got my kids to promise not to speak about religion or politics here... especially about Trump.
The people here take both of these very seriously.
I will hit some hobby stores here, maybe find some RRT deals??

 Talizvar wrote:
Hey! American flag next to profile... still Canadian though.
Got my kids to promise not to speak about religion or politics here... especially about Trump.
The people here take both of these very seriously.
I will hit some hobby stores here, maybe find some RRT??

Just had to adjust that for you, you had a word too many in that last post!

 Mike1975 wrote:
Shameless plug on the new cards.....feel free to make suggestions on the format.

Mike, more than the format, have you considered asking for help with the overall look? I loved the design of the cards, with more useful information all in the hand, but they don't look appealling. I know "look" is the least important thing in a gaming aid, but at least for me, that's why I decided to go with the standard RRT cards. Maybe you can ask someone to use his/hers skills in photoshop (or whatever) to improve fonts, overall image quality, etc
I can barely know some basics in photoshop, but I'm sure if you ask in RTU or here, someone could help you with the style and graphic part of the cards.

 Nesbet wrote:

 Mike1975 wrote:
Shameless plug on the new cards.....feel free to make suggestions on the format.

Mike, more than the format, have you considered asking for help with the overall look? I loved the design of the cards, with more useful information all in the hand, but they don't look appealling. I know "look" is the least important thing in a gaming aid, but at least for me, that's why I decided to go with the standard RRT cards. Maybe you can ask someone to use his/hers skills in photoshop (or whatever) to improve fonts, overall image quality, etc
I can barely know some basics in photoshop, but I'm sure if you ask in RTU or here, someone could help you with the style and graphic part of the cards.

I do these in Power Point so I keep them somewhat simple. I did do some with a nicer background and people had asked for me to do some with simpler or no background whatsoever so that they could print them at home. If someone wants to jazz them up I'm all for it and can send them the PPT files to work with. And YES......looks are always important for a game.

A few examples of altering them by adding a border and strengthening the background. I could also make the missile markers round or have them look cooler. The ones I use are basically from a table that is inserted into the page.


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I could also add shadows below the damage diagrams and a lot more. So suggestions or help is welcome.

Too much Nodal wars up in this here RRT thread.

 Swabby wrote:
Too much Nodal wars up in this here RRT thread.

LOL, well, if we had actual RRT news to talk about things might be different. People seem to have gotten tired of simply bashing PB, often rightfully so, so until people play some more RRT......


How about discussing ways to improve the infamous Blast Rules?

I do not mind Mike's efforts at all, at least it gives you an option to use those RTT models that I painstakingly put together.

Can I ask one thing Mike? I love the artwork for the datasheets but it is not really printer cost friendly, any chance of a stripped back design,

Admiittedlly I could print up one and then produce BW copies but given the initial number of sheets needed - I know I am a cheapskarte but....

wilycoyote wrote:
I do not mind Mike's efforts at all, at least it gives you an option to use those RTT models that I painstakingly put together.

Can I ask one thing Mike? I love the artwork for the datasheets but it is not really printer cost friendly, any chance of a stripped back design,

Admiittedlly I could print up one and then produce BW copies but given the initial number of sheets needed - I know I am a cheapskarte but....

I don't have them for Nodal Wars but that would be easy to do. The wiki page has all the RRT ones that I did with the backgrounds removed to reduce the color count.

http://robotech-rpg-tactics.wikia.com/wiki/Robotech_RPG_Tactics_Wiki


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http://robotech-rpg-tactics.wikia.com/wiki/Custom_Game_Cards

I don't mind Mikes efforts either, they just belong in a thread titled Nodal Wars.

Swabby is correct in that it isn't technically a Robotech post since it's about his Nodal Wars rules. They may be based off of the Robotech ruleset and copy the Macross stats but he's expanded it to two other eras and beyond which makes the pertinent part a minority of the whole. He has made other topics IIRC on them but they don't get the traffic or response that posting here does so he updates us on a related topic.

Mike is right in that there isn't much else to talk about here. Palladium is about as easy to engage in real discussion as with a bag of donkey genitalia and we're just complaining in circles. Nesbet has brought some refreshing new blood to the thread with his game reports and hobby efforts but we're still like that episode of Stargate with the same 20 minds stuck in a shared virtual reality for centuries desparate for new experiences.

How about a compromise? (since I have all the adjudicating power here on Dakka of a wet mop) Mike posts his PART of his update (like a few sentances and ONE sample card) and then clearly asks that actual discussion of the news take place in the appropriate topic that he'll link convienently in the same post.

 warboss wrote:
Swabby is correct in that it isn't technically a Robotech post since it's about his Nodal Wars rules. They may be based off of the Robotech ruleset and copy the Macross stats but he's expanded it to two other eras and beyond which makes the pertinent part a minority of the whole. He has made other topics IIRC on them but they don't get the traffic or response that posting here does so he updates us on a related topic.

Mike is right in that there isn't much else to talk about here. Palladium is about as easy to engage in real discussion as with a bag of donkey genitalia and we're just complaining in circles. Nesbet has brought some refreshing new blood to the thread with his game reports and hobby efforts but we're still like that episode of Stargate with the same 20 minds stuck in a shared virtual reality for centuries desparate for new experiences.

How about a compromise? (since I have all the adjudicating power here on Dakka of a wet mop) Mike posts his PART of his update (like a few sentances and ONE sample card) and then clearly asks that actual discussion of the news take place in the appropriate topic that he'll link convienently in the same post.

Which is fine. I had not posted much on Nodal Wars TBH. If a few pics get's someone uncomfortable then that is unfortunate.

I certainly wouldn't dream of speaking for the moderators, but Dakka has always struck me as kind of an 'on topic' sort of forum.

I'm certainly guilty of the occasional divergence, tangent, or shenanigans, but larger/ongoing topics (and a WIP game is certainly both) does kind of stretch incredulity in that regard. :-P

Honestly, if this thread goes a couple of days or weeks without posts, it's not like it gets locked and junked.

But it is funny in a way. As I pointed out, the most consistent activity may be slinging mud and occasional bits of poop, but if it weren't for said mockery, the topic would go literally months without anyone saying much at all.

It shows an existing and disappointed fanbase, and frankly, money on consistently being left on the table by PB.

I still think it'd be hilarious if there was a Nodal Wars tournament at Gencon but nothing more than the usual demos for RRT.

 Forar wrote:

But it is funny in a way. As I pointed out, the most consistent activity may be slinging mud and occasional bits of poop, but if it weren't for said mockery, the topic would go literally months without anyone saying much at all.

I disagree i've posted pics of my items i'm making and Nesbet has posted his stuff too, but as it goes even the poop slinging has diminished as of late. and PB must be overjoyed.

Asterios wrote:

 Forar wrote:

But it is funny in a way. As I pointed out, the most consistent activity may be slinging mud and occasional bits of poop, but if it weren't for said mockery, the topic would go literally months without anyone saying much at all.

I disagree i've posted pics of my items i'm making and Nesbet has posted his stuff too, but as it goes even the poop slinging has diminished as of late. and PB must be overjoyed.

It's hard to continue to care about a subject that even the original designers have completely given up on, especially when they're constantly dishonest to even themselves about their level of non-involvement. If it weren't for the efforts of the few folks churning out their own Wave 2 or replacement game systems, this thread would have long withered away.

I'd love to be able to contribute more of my own pics of completed models, but my RRT stuff has gone to the bottom of the stack as I attempt to catch up on the backlog of other unpainted models for games I feel I'm much more likely (or actually have) managed to play. Right now, Bolt Action has drifted to the top of the pile for me. Heck, I've even done a few X-Wing (lite) repaints of late, and that stuff already comes pre-painted.

 Stormonu wrote:

Asterios wrote:

 Forar wrote:

But it is funny in a way. As I pointed out, the most consistent activity may be slinging mud and occasional bits of poop, but if it weren't for said mockery, the topic would go literally months without anyone saying much at all.

I disagree i've posted pics of my items i'm making and Nesbet has posted his stuff too, but as it goes even the poop slinging has diminished as of late. and PB must be overjoyed.

It's hard to continue to care about a subject that even the original designers have completely given up on, especially when they're constantly dishonest to even themselves about their level of non-involvement. If it weren't for the efforts of the few folks churning out their own Wave 2 or replacement game systems, this thread would have long withered away.

I'd love to be able to contribute more of my own pics of completed models, but my RRT stuff has gone to the bottom of the stack as I attempt to catch up on the backlog of other unpainted models for games I feel I'm much more likely (or actually have) managed to play. Right now, Bolt Action has drifted to the top of the pile for me. Heck, I've even done a few X-Wing (lite) repaints of late, and that stuff already comes pre-painted.

well right now i'm working on a super guardian, then might work on my FPA's or Alphas or Betas, or Invid or Zentradi troopers hovertanks or who knows.

 Mike1975 wrote:
So suggestions or help is welcome.

To my eyes, the biggest thing you could do to improve the cards is to create a more structured arrangement for the various bits of data; right now the placements of the various blocks of data looks a bit haphazard.

Soul Samurai wrote:

 Mike1975 wrote:
So suggestions or help is welcome.

To my eyes, the biggest thing you could do to improve the cards is to create a more structured arrangement for the various bits of data; right now the placements of the various blocks of data looks a bit haphazard.

They are all set up in the same way with Faction and availability on the top left and name on the top right. I'm not quite sure what you mean. Could you be a bit more specific? Thanks for taking a look!

Sorry for not being very clear; I'm not a designer or anything so I don't really know how to explain this sort of thing properly. I put together a quick demo as quickly as I could to try to show you what I mean (left out the mech outlines, and since I don't know what all the data means I just presented it as best I could):



In this card I collected data into specific areas based on type/how it should be displayed, rather than having it scattered all around. But more importantly I aligned everything; data that didn't align easily was encapsulated in frames that were more easily aligned. I don't have frames of different sizes floating in the middle of the card, flanked by unframed images.

Well, that's the kind of thing that looks good to me. I dunno if that's any use to you or not. I put it together in HTML, which has the advantage of being easy to change the text and stuff once you've managed to get everything into place nicely (which is unfortunately not always very easy...), if you want I can try to help you put together an HTML template to work with if you decide to go that route.


By the way, I noticed in your weapon table you have "type" written twice; I think the first time should be something like "weapon name" or something.

Awesome, that is useful feedback. Thanks


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That will work fine for some things. Once you get to Veritechs it won't since they have different HTH, Movement, GN, PIL and all in each of the modes. I'll mess with it though.

Like this?

 Mike1975 wrote:
Like this?

Way better! IMHO

Are you all excited already? I'ts thursday PWU! -.-
Well, they are even late with that, usually coming on Fridays nowadays. I think they started with PWU on mondays? xD

And a VT, the Super VT is going to get really really crowded. I'll have to take a look at that. Thanks guys.


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Also, what do you guys think of the Blast rules and how would you improve them if you were to do your own? I'm curious since a group of us worked on the revision and I have done my own. Always room for improvement....

Mike don't you have a facebook group for this stuff?

I'm responding to questions. If you guys want we can take it here before fweelings are hurt.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/678612.page

Mike....i would suggest NOT having all missile options on the card but just a separate card for each misdile load. Even the standard vf card looks crowded with all missile options on it.

I could do that, but then you are going to have a LOT of cards.......one for each option. And if you have to print those out......

 Mike1975 wrote:
I'm responding to questions. If you guys want we can take it here before fweelings are hurt.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/678612.page

Got it. So we can all go to your Robotech facebook page and discuss at length every other minis ruleset instead of Robotech even after folks ask that we take it elsewhere. Got it. Unless of course you're going to pull a NMI and be a total hypocrite...

You have multiple nodal wars threads that you created specifically to discuss this ALTERNATE ruleset. I have no problem with you updating us occasionally on new stuff with it since it can be used for Robotech as well but it shouldn't derail the whole thread into "mike's powerpoint card design panel discussion for other rules".