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PB probably did want to make more beyond the kickstarter off this, I just don't think they know how. It is blatantly obvious they are not people actually interested in making this type of game, and quite probably not actually capable of doing it without outside help.

Kevin is attracted to attention more than the money I hate to say.
Problem is he never wants to operate outside of his knowledge-base.
So unless there is a clear "leader" to keep it going, Kevin will not touch it with a ten foot pole.
So here we are.

I'd say he views himself more in the line of the Kim dynasty in North Korea, giving field guidance followed upon the pain of professional death on topics that Kev In Siem has little to no actual skill in. If they fail, it must be because they had ulterior selfish motives and sabotaged the plan or didn't follow it closely enough. Either way, in the cult of personality, it is never actually Kevin's fault and there are always more of those indoctrinated to take their place once the perpetrator suffers death under bus.

 warboss wrote:
it is never actually Kevin's fault and there are always more of those indoctrinated to take their place once the perpetrator suffers death under bus.

This meme had to presented first to give proper perspective of the extent of Kevin and blame being thrown about:



It is no accident that PB is near a scrapyard.

 Albertorius wrote:

jaymz wrote:
Mwo also redid a number of the "unseen" and at least to me they look REALLY good.

In general they look fantastic, and have reached an agreement with Harebrained Schemes to let them use the models for their new Battletech tactical computer game.

A game a friend pledged for me

Whelp, today's 'newsletter landed', let's see where RRT stands!

UPDATE: Robotech® RPG Tactics™

The PDFs of Wave 2 cards are being posted on DriveThruRPG.com at a rate of 2 every day until they are ALL posted and available to you over the next several weeks. Otherwise, still waiting for that price quote and working on plans for releases.

So, SNAFU, good good, consistency is key here, gents.

 Forar wrote:
So, SNAFU, good good, consistency is key here, gents.

Yup. Because there's only two options available, exacting specificity, and complete vagueness. Do they have a timeline for the pricing that they've been skirting around for months? Doesn't have to be exacting. But if a company is doing a quote for you, and can't give you a ballpark on when it'll be ready, at least in terms of months, if not weeks, then either you're not serious about it, or they aren't.

As to other details they could have some level of specificity on, without going over the top? How about talking in broad terms about release. Is the release just going to be a push to get out the existing material first? Is the release going to be a few, most, or all of Wave 2? Is there a broad timeline you're working towards? EDIT- Because I mean, if they're expecting any backlash, getting it out now, is better than having it drown it out when the news does break. Kicking the can down the road does noone any good.

I know the last one invariably gets them into strife, but that's just because they've proven incompetent at following through. Instead of complaining about being held to account for it, set a reasonable timeline, tack on another 50%, and FOLLOW THROUGH. Or, explain why you're running late, rather than just waiting for the deadline to pass, and just going "Ooops, my bad.".

Then, maybe, people will stop thinking you're incompetent jackholes.

I mean seriously, if their message had been "Nothing new to really report", would it (besides being more honest) have had less information?

Also, the 5th day cards are Lancer and Ghost stat cards. So, more stuff already found entirely in the book. Yay.

 Talizvar wrote:

 warboss wrote:
it is never actually Kevin's fault and there are always more of those indoctrinated to take their place once the perpetrator suffers death under bus.

This meme had to presented first to give proper perspective of the extent of Kevin and blame being thrown about:



It is no accident that PB is near a scrapyard.

Ha! Thank you, that last image made me laugh really hard.

I once had a boss like that. He came up with a sales idea which was incredibly stupid but we werent allowed to say anything. Needless to say his idea failed spectacularly but he blamed all of us for not trying hard enough. Because there couldnt possibly have been anything wrong with his idea.

Where I use to work the joke was...

You fit so much better under the bus than I do...

You worked for Wil Wheaton or PB?

Is Wheaton known for bussing people ?

Rules? I don't care about rules, Palladium, I want my dang minis.

Grf.

The sooner you come to grips with the fact that they don't know that, or anything else about anything miniature wargaming the better of you will be man. They are totally clueless.

This whole thing is reminding me of the master blaster fight in mad max beyond thunderdome, where we all have this righteous angst against this beast, only to find out at the end that they are really just totally pathetic.

Merijeek wrote:
Is Wheaton known for bussing people ?

There was the time he played some games rules horribly on his youtube show and blamed his producer for not teaching him correctly

I think it happened once.

I mean, not cool to happen at all, but it's not like he does it on a bi-weekly basis.

It just speaks to his character.
He called it an apology, but it was very much a "blame someone else" thing and it was pretty bad.

I'll cut someone some slack if they're playing different games every time, make an occasional mistake (not consistently for their own benefit), and generally known as a nice guy (even if sarcastic). I reserve my ridicule for known consistent douchebags who only have to learn one game every decade or two yet screw up seemingly every step of the way.

 n815e wrote:
You worked for Wil Wheaton or PB?

Na... Just your stereotypical manufacturing company that quality control department knows the product is bad and hides it..
The upper management is aware of quality wants the machines ran two times faster than recommended speed with less people that
are untrained temporary workers.
Then when something goes wrong and the customer complains... Here comes the bus....
Glad I no longer work there...

Palladium games operates like this I am sure..

 Genoside07 wrote:

 n815e wrote:
You worked for Wil Wheaton or PB?

Na... Just your stereotypical manufacturing company that quality control department knows the product is bad and hides it..
The upper management is aware of quality wants the machines ran two times faster than recommended speed with less people that
are untrained temporary workers.
Then when something goes wrong and the customer complains... Here comes the bus....
Glad I no longer work there...

Palladium games operates like this I am sure..

doubt Palladium is that organized.

 warboss wrote:
I'll cut someone some slack if they're playing different games every time, make an occasional mistake (not consistently for their own benefit), and generally known as a nice guy (even if sarcastic). I reserve my ridicule for known consistent douchebags who only have to learn one game every decade or two yet screw up seemingly every step of the way.

It isn't that they made mistakes on the show, it is that they made mistakes and he blames it all one one guy.

This thread ability to go completely off topic on a moments notice is to be described as Palladiumesque. Perhaps you could post some pics of Wil feeding geese.

On a gaming related note xwing wave should the streets in the mext 3 weeks....my wallet is already cringing.

Friendly Reminder Time: The Topic here is "Robotech RPG Tactics".

 Alpharius wrote:
Friendly Reminder Time: The Topic here is "Robotech RPG Tactics".

or lack thereof ?

Joyboozer wrote:
This thread ability to go completely off topic on a moments notice is to be described as Palladiumesque. Perhaps you could post some pics of Wil feeding geese.

And the funny thing is often those most opposed to going off topic are the primary offenders.......I've taken more note lately than previously.

Q: Is there a quicker way to get a warning than LULZ posts right after a warning?

A: Well, yes, of course, but it is still high up on the list...

True but there are few that even post on this thread consistently. Either way......now that we are done with the Labor Day weekend.....any bets on when the next update will come? Should we have Forar check his clock and take bets?

As an aside, as I've mentioned numerous times. I doubt PB will ever come out with something even close to what we want for wave 2. I think they want to and wish to but just like the list of 30 new books PB comes out with and says they will finish each year.....RRT won't happen. They can't piecemeal it like the RPG. It's all wave 2 or nothing. I bet more on the latter.

Mike,

Any work on any model is progress. PB could indeed piecemeal the rest of it. I bet they are. They just won't show any progress on individual pieces because even they have worked out that it would mean instant death for them.

Anyone with that model in their pledge will be screaming " Want it NOW!" which they can't do as it will eat up extra money in postage costs.

Anyone that doesn't have it in their pledge will be screaming "Why THAT model? The one I want is more logical/useful/popular and should have been out before that!".

At this point, anything PB proves they have been working on that is anything less than the whole of wave 2, they could be wiped out. They could have half the remaining stuff ready, but be too scared to do anything about it with the MAC II, or Gnerls, or any of the rest still to be completed. Show it and be damned by faint praise and hatred that it wasn't the model other people would have done next, or suffer in silence unitl the whole lot is complete so they can blow a huge raspberry in our faces for ever doubting they would come through this century.

I don't know which is correct, do you?

Doesn't matter since they can only afford to ship wave 2 as a single wave. The only exception is the smaller pledges that were only for the unique Rick or Roy figures and nothing else. Those could be fulfilled and considered closed.

The problem is the definition of "working on wave 2" that PB uses and what you and I would use are very different.

Well, BACK ON TOPIC!

Here are some WIP shots of my Regults. They are currently being painted by a hired brush from Santiago
(yup. I recognized Real Life has been such a bitch last months, that I would not be able to paint all these 64 miniatures)

Bases. No highlights yet:



First test. blacklinning with brush. I said her that I could delineate better than her with brush (LOL) so I bought here some gundam markers...



Rough blacklinning without corections:


Lines corrected, still missing highlights:




Well, that's mostly "my" progress so far. I sent her 36 Regults, 8 of each artillery pods, 4 scouts and 3 Glaugs.
At first I thought this paint scheme will be just for the Regults, and for the arillery I thought about changing the main colour of the scheme (red) for something else, like dark grey or something.
Now, seeing those 12 red Regults, so sexy, Im thinking about a tidal wave of red mechas xD

Don't know what to do. Use this scheme with slight variations from unit to unit or just use same scheme for all the 64 miniatures?

Let me hear your opinions! Or read. Whatever!