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So, in 30 years' time my RRT boxes may be worth something, is what you're saying?

I contacted HG to complain about PB. They seemed receptive to it and thanked me. It doesn't hurt to complain to them, they have a new vp that seems interested in what is going on.

 Albertorius wrote:
So, in 30 years' time my RRT boxes may be worth something, is what you're saying?

oh they will always be worth something, a lot? debatable, but something.

 n815e wrote:
I contacted HG to complain about PB. They seemed receptive to it and thanked me. It doesn't hurt to complain to them, they have a new vp that seems interested in what is going on.

Exactly where did you do that at (can you link it?) I've got a few choice words to relay to them about PB.

 Stormonu wrote:

Not sure about the overstock, but it would be fitting if they ended up buried next to the copies of the Atari 2600 E.T. Games buried out in the desert (with a Resin SDF-1 sticking out of the sand like the prow of the Yamato?)

In a way, it already has. See the gamestop dumpster diving video with unsold clearance robotech boxes trash picked from a dumpster shared with a card shop. I believe the line was something like "That gak'll sell like hotcakes on amazon!". The fool...

Thanks to all for the info on the Yamato movie. I'd definitely consider $12 mil to be low budget although obviously a step/order of magnitude above sharknado or aztec rex style films. They kept making a big deal about the low, tight budget on deadpool this past summer which "only" had $40 million-ish and they had to combine both characters and action scenes to make the money last while still looking good. At a bare minimum, I'd expect that amount.


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 Albertorius wrote:
So, in 30 years' time my RRT boxes may be worth something, is what you're saying?

Statisically, I'll probably be dead by then in that case. :(


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 Stormonu wrote:

 n815e wrote:
I contacted HG to complain about PB. They seemed receptive to it and thanked me. It doesn't hurt to complain to them, they have a new vp that seems interested in what is going on.

Exactly where did you do that at (can you link it?) I've got a few choice words to relay to them about PB.

Ditto. I'd like that info as well (especially if you got a response). Remember to stress that you're NOT buying any robotech (palladium or not) as a result of this bungled kickstarter (assuming that is the case as it is with me personally).

I'm with you on the 'movie' Warboss. I'm not expecting it to get a $100m+ budget (plus marketing), but the merchandising possibilities are known on various sites as it is. I'm sure they'd love to be hocking more VT's at retail and Max Sterling/Rick Hunter/Lisa Hayes costumes for halloween and soundtracks and DVD/digital purchases/etc.

I mean, District 9 was fairly effects heavy and was made on a $30m or so budget, as I recall. I'd figure this would get a B tier treatment; money for effects with an end goal of selling nostalgia and toys/merch, but not top A level 9 figure funding.

It has sat in development hell for too long to believe that someone is going to green light this thing with that kind of money finally, but I do agree that giving it a 'loose change and pocket fluff' treatment own't pull anything impressive in either.

That said, I'd be interested in the means of contacting HG to express my displeasure.

 Stormonu wrote:

 n815e wrote:
I contacted HG to complain about PB. They seemed receptive to it and thanked me. It doesn't hurt to complain to them, they have a new vp that seems interested in what is going on.

Exactly where did you do that at (can you link it?) I've got a few choice words to relay to them about PB.

I messaged the Robotech.com facebook group, which is run by them. I told them we haven't seen progress in years and it is hurting the brand.
Kevin McKeever responded and said he was going to forward it up.

 warboss wrote:

Thanks to all for the info on the Yamato movie. I'd definitely consider $12 mil to be low budget although obviously a step/order of magnitude above sharknado or aztec rex style films. They kept making a big deal about the low, tight budget on deadpool this past summer which "only" had $40 million-ish and they had to combine both characters and action scenes to make the money last while still looking good. At a bare minimum, I'd expect that amount.

Well, actually it had a budget of $23.9M, and it was one of the 10 highest budget movies ever made in Japan. Takuya Kimura lowered his talent fee to keep budget down, though.

They also made almost $50M at the box office, so not bad for non USAnian movie standards.

All that said, though, the Yamato 2199 series remake had a much bigger overall budget and a way better reception (and with reason, I'd say: it was both gorgeous and IMHO much better).

http://www.worldlistmania.com/top-10-most-expensive-japanese-films/

I would love to see someone to make sure HG VP gets the great time line of events that the forum group painstakingly put together..

I could do it. but I'm good with ideas.. not so much with execution.

Plus my old boss once told me "you don't have a problem without data"

Asterios wrote:

 Albertorius wrote:
So, in 30 years' time my RRT boxes may be worth something, is what you're saying?

oh they will always be worth something, a lot? debatable, but something.

Only if it brings down Palladium Books, Harmony Gold, shakes up the miniatures game industry and the unsold boxes end up in a landfill somewhere in Michigan.

Not necessarily landfill, but burying them somewhere known only to Kev and his Fan-Friends would possibly prevent them from being taken if/when the company goes into liquidation.

Although saying that, the liquidation company are likely to miss the most valuable bits of property in the office anyway.

Kev's Fridge Art!

Maybe Jorel will buy up all remaining robotech stock (along with extra copies of NG books) to show Palladium his displeasure?

I have no doubt he is already in the process of doing that.

 warboss wrote:
Maybe Jorel will buy up all remaining robotech stock (along with extra copies of NGR books) to show Palladium his displeasure?

Damn, dawg. When you shiv someone with a shank (shank someone with a shiv? I can never remember) you go straight for the kidney, huh?

Kidneys, bah, kidneys are for noobs....I go right for the appendix! Also, after all these years I still type NGR instead of NG...on top of autocorrect trying to mess it up further.

 Conrad Turner wrote:
Not necessarily landfill, but burying them somewhere known only to Kev and his Fan-Friends would possibly prevent them from being taken if/when the company goes into liquidation.

Although saying that, the liquidation company are likely to miss the most valuable bits of property in the office anyway.

Kev's Fridge Art!

actually Kevin already has an escape plan set up with Wayne, where right before Kevin files Bankruptcy Wayne will have purchased product and IP ownership to Kev's IP's for a small nominal fee so that when Kevin files bankruptcy there will be nothing left.

I would think a legal eagle such as yourself would know that the courts look for that kind of behavior.

 n815e wrote:
I would think a legal eagle such as yourself would know that the courts look for that kind of behavior.

well didn't say it was smart now did I?

 n815e wrote:
I would think a legal eagle such as yourself would know that the courts look for that kind of behavior.

Word.

I even I know that wouldn't pass muster...

 Alpharius wrote:

 n815e wrote:
I would think a legal eagle such as yourself would know that the courts look for that kind of behavior.

Word.

I even I know that wouldn't pass muster...

and once again we are talking about Kevin, how many smart ideas is he known for ?

Aren't we straying a little into personal attack territory here? I mean, no love for the folks behind this fiasco, but...

On topic - have they finished posting all the cards yet? Seems like that was the only movement on this "boiling pot" of late.

 Stormonu wrote:
Aren't we straying a little into personal attack territory here? I mean, no love for the folks behind this fiasco, but...

On topic - have they finished posting all the cards yet? Seems like that was the only movement on this "boiling pot" of late.

they are on wave one cards still I think ? and as to your first part if about me i'm just asking a question, hence the ? at the end. how many smart ideas is Kevin known for ?

They are uploading the character cards...
Silly KevCo...

I may fall asleep at some point and not notice when all the cards are posted.
I promised I would let the Battlescribe guy who is handling Robotech know when they are all out so he can update the list.
So please give a resounding cheer when they are all "officially" posted.
Yes, even despite Mike had those suckers done like forever ago.

well, wayne finished uploading all the UEDF character cards today, so theres only 9 Zentraedi and malontent version of Maloquin remaining. Five days. October 31st should be the lastday of these uploads...

 Albertorius wrote:

 warboss wrote:

Thanks to all for the info on the Yamato movie. I'd definitely consider $12 mil to be low budget although obviously a step/order of magnitude above sharknado or aztec rex style films. They kept making a big deal about the low, tight budget on deadpool this past summer which "only" had $40 million-ish and they had to combine both characters and action scenes to make the money last while still looking good. At a bare minimum, I'd expect that amount.

Well, actually it had a budget of $23.9M, and it was one of the 10 highest budget movies ever made in Japan. Takuya Kimura lowered his talent fee to keep budget down, though.

They also made almost $50M at the box office, so not bad for non USAnian movie standards.

All that said, though, the Yamato 2199 series remake had a much bigger overall budget and a way better reception (and with reason, I'd say: it was both gorgeous and IMHO much better).

http://www.worldlistmania.com/top-10-most-expensive-japanese-films/

Just as an aside, I HIGHLY recommend Space Battleship Yamato 2199; I've watched it on KissAnime recently and it resparked my interest in the franchise, to the point my Christmas list looks like a fleet organization diagram for the series.

I should point out that the money (likely a couple hundred) going to raise my Yamato/Star Blazers fleet could have easily been spent on RRT models, if this hadn't gone south...

 Nesbet wrote:
well, wayne finished uploading all the UEDF character cards today, so theres only 9 Zentraedi and malontent version of Maloquin remaining. Five days. October 31st should be the lastday of these uploads...

Here, let's make this faster

Squadrons
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vQ1A1QXMxYVNmTlk

Support
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vTXVTZnFWZzh0UzQ

Mecha
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vaXJrdnBsWDE0RVk

Characters
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vSHhEaHlmM0ZWZmc


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And just in case
https://drive.google.com/open?id=0B0VSNzmthd1vUnRGMXBuV0FiVXc

Oh, noes, you're making magic!!!! How on earth have you managed to merge all our hard work into a small amount of actually useable files!!

[/sarcasm]

Thanks for that, Mike. I couldn't muster the courage to download Palladium's.


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 Stormonu wrote:
Just as an aside, I HIGHLY recommend Space Battleship Yamato 2199; I've watched it on KissAnime recently and it resparked my interest in the franchise, to the point my Christmas list looks like a fleet organization diagram for the series.

I should point out that the money (likely a couple hundred) going to raise my Yamato/Star Blazers fleet could have easily been spent on RRT models, if this hadn't gone south...

Wholeheartedly agreed, on both accounts. IMHO Space Battleship Yamato 2199 is the golden standard for a remake that wants to be faithful to the original... only, you know, better in every possible way, from internal consistency to characters to action to budget.

And the plastic figures are both affordable and perfect for fleet games.

yeah Mike, thanks for that magic, LOL.
But the deal with october 31st is: what will PB do next? They will not have more cards to upload and so, they would not be """"WORKING""""

Yeah, they still need to try to get all the minis done and that will happen "soon". Hence why I just check in now and then and have moved on to focusing on Nodal Wars. RRT is dead except for the most extreme of fans thanks to how it was handled.