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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/13 18:48:01
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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Genoside07 wrote:In January 2017 there will be a posting from Kevin stating that the Backers ruined the community with their negative attacks
and they can no longer pursue Robotech Tactics because so many people turned against it.
It is like you connected to Kevin's thought process.
Sorry for you!
In a roundabout way all these negative "vibes" would repel Kev from RRT because there is "no glory in it".
He is all about attention and acclaim.
BUT having to work for it is not his thing.
So we COULD be to blame for the lack of progress because we have not provided the appropriate motivation.
I think he really would blame us for it or else those starter boxes should be selling like hotcakes as planned.
You know whomever had the brainwave to order so much retail stock would be blameless and we know who is in control...
A part of me is curious of where ~$1.5 million went, you-know, because I am all about pie-chart info-blurbs.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/13 22:20:37
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The money was split 50/50 between Success, Victory, and Winning.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 00:43:28
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Talizvar wrote: Genoside07 wrote:In January 2017 there will be a posting from Kevin stating that the Backers ruined the community with their negative attacks and they can no longer pursue Robotech Tactics because so many people turned against it.
It is like you connected to Kevin's thought process. Sorry for you! It's dangerous to stare into the abyss of incompetence, vanity, and greed for too long lest it notice you and stare back. Genoside, if you start noticing that you instinctively reach for the "take a penny, leave a penny" change plate to take it all when paying despite having a pocket full of change, you may have been "redefined" by your connection with the Siembieda.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 03:22:53
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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That is too funny.. I never thought the voices in my head was Kevin...
But earlier this year I moved and the buddy that helped me was paid with my unopened RRT kickstarter stuff..
So there may be a link...but wait... I don't care for Rifts...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 03:33:52
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Expendable Defender Destroid Rookie
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Genoside07 wrote:But earlier this year I moved and the buddy that helped me was paid with my unopened RRT kickstarter stuff..
Do you not like your buddy? ^_^
RRT news on ICv2, a trade news site:
http://icv2.com/articles/news/view/36292/palladium-plans-new-books-robotech-rpg-rtt
Nothing really new there, but a compilation of the greatest hits of the last 18 months.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 08:49:47
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Unteroffizier
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Genoside07 wrote:
In January 2017 there will be a posting from Kevin stating that the Backers ruined the community with their negative attacks
and they can no longer pursue Robotech Tactics because so many people turned against it.
And a few days later he'll give the community a special chance to redeem itself by donating yet more money to saving the kickstarter. Oh, and he'll print your name in a rifter as a hero. Or at least till he gets tired of doing it, and then claim he lost the rest of the names, but you'll all have a special place in his heart.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 15:32:16
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Or they didn't update their email addresses necessary to print their names... and the "heroes of robotech" book will come out half assed and years late like the Crisis of TreacheryTM one did.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 17:38:44
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Knight of the Inner Circle
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Kevin's keyboard is so old it doesn't have a @ symbol so emails are impossible to list for him.
But we could make bad jokes all day about him and Palladium; but the truth is a lot of customers and
game shops have lost confidence in the company and their products. My FLGS use to order 6-8
Rifters when they came out and always had a good stock of assorted rule books on hand.
Now it looks like the stock is abandoned and not seen anything new in a while; never point black
asked the owner what his feeling of the company but the stock shows a sign of what is going on.
Plus a lot of online game stores (Miniature Market, Cool Stuff and others) have all clearance out
a lot of their stuff.. And keeps minimum quantities in stock, if any at all..
As a company that would scare most into doing something different or try to improve, but with Kevin
its business as normal. We are doing nothing wrong .. its everyone else has the problems
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 18:52:15
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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I haven't seen a palladium game played in a game store once in this century. Not even an exaggeration.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 19:26:44
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Swabby wrote:I haven't seen a palladium game played in a game store once in this century. Not even an exaggeration. Or this millenium.  Same here (haven't seen a palladium game played in store since the mid 90's and it was my group that time because the GM/host couldn't use his basement due to a flood, lol). The only stores I've seen stock palladium books were stores that were around when Palladium was relevant 15+ years ago and even then most of the stock (judging from the dust as well as edition number/printing years) dates from that time period as well. I have yet to see a newer store regularly stock their products.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 19:42:47
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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RPGs in general has moved to be a lot more upmarket, affordable, and electronic over the last decade or so; PB's offering of a cheap format has largely been sidelined due to the improving value of other systems and the move towards electronic media.
It doesn't help that PB's mechanical system has largely went untouched for years, while other systems continually tweaked and expanded themselves. Essentially, PB is looking at their own obsolescence, by not keeping up with the times.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 20:03:05
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Lynx7725 wrote:It doesn't help that PB's mechanical system has largely went untouched for years, while other systems continually tweaked and expanded themselves. Essentially, PB is looking at their own obsolescence, by not keeping up with the times.
That's not what it looks like in their delusional world view. Didn't you hear that 10 years ago roughly Blizzard asked the master wordsmith Kevin to come speak at their HQ? And fans like Jorel still buy every book (and multiples of others even when he's supposedly furious with them!) when there is a quarter that actually has one come out! Feedback from the last open house told Kevin that 99% of fans want him to keep going as is, even if they didn't know that question was even asked or that they answered it in such a way. Secrecy is still paramount at Palladium and they can't reveal their plans because the entire industry is waiting with baited breath to see what Kevin will redefine next so that they can follow suit. The only reason they've haven't yet reached the pinnacle of success and top seller spot is because of the ongoing treachery from without and a conspiracy without. What other reason could there be? In the meantime, just like the robots in the Matrix trilogy, they're willing to accept lower levels of existence (like cold, dark warehouses apparently and unpaid or deliquently paid freelancers handing in substandard work) in preparation for their ultimate victory.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/14 20:48:57
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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warboss wrote:And fans like Jorel still buy every book (and multiples of others even when he's supposedly furious with them!) when there is a quarter that actually has one come out!
Well, truth be told, given Palladium's yearly output that's actually not that wondrous of a feat, all told.
Now, show me someone keeping up with all the Star Wars RPG releases for the last years and I'll show you a very dedicated fan indeed.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/15 00:25:21
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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The New Miss Macross!
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Albertorius wrote: warboss wrote:And fans like Jorel still buy every book (and multiples of others even when he's supposedly furious with them!) when there is a quarter that actually has one come out!
Well, truth be told, given Palladium's yearly output that's actually not that wondrous of a feat, all told.
Now, show me someone keeping up with all the Star Wars RPG releases for the last years and I'll show you a very dedicated fan indeed.
True.. and I did acknowledge that with the whole quarter comment. The other thing to take note is that those Star Wars fans are typically *star wars* fans and not generally *all things george lucas* cult of personality fans like with Palladium. They buy from a single IP and not some Red Tails vehicle supplement, Indiana Jones crossover adventure, or THX 1138 character pack. The palladium white knights I'm referring to buy everything they put out from Rifters to their zombie book line to RIfts to HU. Added together over 20-30 years of stagnation/production and I'm sure they'll give those fictional Star Wars rpg flash in pan fans a run for their spent money.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/15 18:19:54
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Ancient Venerable Black Templar Dreadnought
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RPGs I still see around, Pathfinder and the latest D&D get trotted out regularly.
Now to see the Pathfinder Rifts played would be interesting to see if it happens.
What I want to know is where are these 10 odd people up the road (next nearest city) who bought some RRT starter boxes?
Should attach a contact list with every box.
Ah well, got a local tournament for Bolt Action for January so getting the American Airborne hordes assembled/painted is the plan.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/15 21:01:39
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inspiring SDF-1 Bridge Officer
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Pathfinder Rifts? Do you mean Savage Worlds?
I can't imagine Kevin allowing another D20 upstart anywhere near his system. Somehow, I imagine mere mention that his own d20 system being a derivative of some other (in)famous D20 system might send him into a tizzy.
I mean, this is the guy who believes he's re-invented the zombie genre with the likes of the Walking Dead having been on TV for the last 4-5 years.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/15 21:50:20
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Grizzled MkII Monster Veteran
Toronto, Ontario
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I kind of want to wander into the Dead Reign subforum and ask how this new book has reinvented the Zombie genre.
Just wait for the gushing praise to roll over me.
Mainly because it's more of an idle curiosity and there's no way I'm spending hours of my day reading that thing myself.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/15 23:31:38
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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We don't use the word "zombie" and that makes us revolutionary!
We call them walkers and biters and lurkers and face biters and knee lurkers and femur walkers and...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 04:29:49
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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You got it all wrong. Kevin told us that Alex told him that he thinks Kevin redefined the zombie genre, which Alex totally didn't like before Kevin put his golden hands to it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 04:35:36
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Funny that you should mention Dead Reign. In the latest PBWU under the Xmas Cash Grab comments, someone asked about the possibility of a Dead Reign RPG tactics.
Kev's response was that after Rifts RPG Tactics, Dead Reign RPG Tactics gets asked about the most. I guess he doesn't visit the Kickstarter comments or the Facebook page and/or has tuned out anyone who isn't a member of the Cult of Kevin.
BTW, I couldn't even find the section on Robotech RPG Tactics in this week's update.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 05:49:52
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Grizzled MkII Monster Veteran
Toronto, Ontario
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I can believe it, but I suspect it's like 'dozens of people asking for Rifts Tactics' and 'maybe five dudes asking for Dead Reign Tactics'.
Hell, it could be 2 and 1 and the statement would still hold true.
From a certain point of view.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pSOBeD1GC_Y
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 12:03:30
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Using Inks and Washes
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Forar,
Everything Kev says is True*. He says 2+2=/=4, I believe him. Want proof?
OK. Take the square root of 2, add it to the square root of 2, and square the answer. This squarely proves that 2+2=8, at least in Kev's mind.
*for a given value of 'True'
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"Ask ten different scientists about the environment, population control, genetics, and you'll get ten different answers, but there's one thing every scientist on the planet agrees on. Whether it happens in a hundred years or a thousand years or a million years, eventually our Sun will grow cold and go out. When that happens, it won't just take us. It'll take Marilyn Monroe, and Lao-Tzu, and Einstein, and Morobuto, and Buddy Holly, and Aristophanes…then all of this…all of this…was for nothing. Unless we go to the stars." Commander sinclair, Babylon 5.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 14:36:25
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Grizzled MkII Monster Veteran
Toronto, Ontario
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It was mostly an excuse to post that Robot Chicken video.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 15:03:21
Subject: Re:Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Inexperienced VF-1A Valkyrie Brownie
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cannonfodr wrote:Funny that you should mention Dead Reign. In the latest PBWU under the Xmas Cash Grab comments, someone asked about the possibility of a Dead Reign RPG tactics.
Kev's response was that after Rifts RPG Tactics, Dead Reign RPG Tactics gets asked about the most. I guess he doesn't visit the Kickstarter comments or the Facebook page and/or has tuned out anyone who isn't a member of the Cult of Kevin.
BTW, I couldn't even find the section on Robotech RPG Tactics in this week's update.
I'd bet that the number of people asking for Rifts and Dead Reign RPG Tactics combined is about two orders of magnitude less than the number of people wondering where the stuff they paid for is.
But 1.5 million dollars from over 5,000 people has garnered less enthusiasm from Kevin than selling 150 packs of cheap playing cards...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 15:23:56
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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n815e wrote:You got it all wrong. Kevin told us that Alex told him that he thinks Kevin redefined the zombie genre, which Alex totally didn't like before Kevin put his golden hands to it.
Ah, well, in that case insert a "Kevin's Special Sauce Makes Everything Better" joke here.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 15:56:46
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Forar wrote:It was mostly an excuse to post that Robot Chicken video.
I am leaving the forum if everyone starts singing Broadway songs..
Or maybe that was Kevin's plan all along....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 16:09:29
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Oh the pbwu did mention rrt...
"UPDATE: Everything Else
Everything else, from Rifts® to RRT™, is in various stages of development."
That was it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 16:27:29
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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"I am a fan-friend. And a fan-friend just believes..."
There's a lot more potential for adapting I Believe from Trey Parker and Matt Stone's the Book of Mormon, I just need some time and motivation to do it.
Genoside07 wrote: Forar wrote:It was mostly an excuse to post that Robot Chicken video.
I am leaving the forum if everyone starts singing Broadway songs..
Or maybe that was Kevin's plan all along....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 17:12:12
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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jaymz wrote:Oh the pbwu did mention rrt...
"UPDATE: Everything Else
Everything else, from Rifts® to RRT™, is in various stages of development."
That was it.
They are hoping Santa grants their Christmas wish of having us go away.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2016/12/16 17:44:30
Subject: Robotech RPG Tactics - "Restarting" the Kickstarter Discussion
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Only if the AG grants my wish and sues them into bankruptcy.
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