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I have no idea what that was about at all. I only know the guy by reputation for thinking he's Palldium's Defender of the Faith when most people see him as a ban happy bloopy honey badger. I mean, I knew to stay away from Palldium's boards ages ago because mass deletions and editing was the norm. That's the main reason I am so glad that kickstarter comments cannot be controlled by Palladium. I'm sure it infuriates Kevin to no end that he has to endure honesty and criticism as it is an alien beast to him for the most part.

My guess is that he's relishing Jay D pushing Kickstarter to look into the matter, and getting a temp ban out of it.

He posted his little Vague-booking bit around a day ago, and we got the heads up that Jay D had gotten a month time out a few hours later.

But honestly, it's just fething weird.

Heh, if you look at his comments, he's quite content to ask repeatedly about delivery timelines when it's not a Palladium project.

Looks like it really was NMI over at 4chan. But it seems to be over now that the thread has been archived. I dont think we'll see anymore about it there, unless something else happens.

That dingbat really tried to go over to 4chan and yell them down? Wow, he must usually never leave the confines of the Palladium compound.

TwoGunBob wrote:
I have no idea what that was about at all. I only know the guy by reputation for thinking he's Palldium's Defender of the Faith when most people see him as a ban happy bloopy honey badger. I mean, I knew to stay away from Palldium's boards ages ago because mass deletions and editing was the norm. That's the main reason I am so glad that kickstarter comments cannot be controlled by Palladium. I'm sure it infuriates Kevin to no end that he has to endure honesty and criticism as it is an alien beast to him for the most part.

Yet. Lots of PB fan-friends calling for letting KS creators moderate their KS comments due to this incident. I'm sure that power will not be abused at all -_-

I think that would be a bad idea for Kickstarter.. it also allows people to know what is going on with others;
If that is shut down.. I think less people would back projects thinking everything bad was hidden.

But also with the Rifts Board game, no matter how great it could be money isn't there for it. I am not the same
person I was four years ago.. I have passed on a number of great kickstarters because of no additional money for them.
Mythic Battles and Kingdom of Death 1.5 both looked great but eating food is more important to me at this point in my life..
Plus there is a flood of games to the point no one could ever keep up with them.. It even looks now that Weta is getting
into the miniature game business..

There could have been some great stuff Robotech game could have produced if in the right hands; And with a
good rules set it could help bring players in easily .. just look at how massive Star Wars X-wing game is.

I don't see Kickstarter doing that. They only act in two situations from what I've seen. When someone is sufficiently vulgar (with the creator needing to whine, of course) or someone suggesting threatening Kickstarter's money - such as Jay D. suggesting that the RRT Kickstarter be killed.

NMI is just petty and vindictive and was likely for attention in order to play victim.

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Sweet? I'd read quickly and thought he'd written "I sweat apple pies" and assumed it was a reference to how he'd eaten so many, it was leaking from his pores. It still makes more sense than what he actually wrote.
It's a broken sentence, perhaps he meant to write Apple pies, we spent the Kickstarter funds on sweet Apple pies.

So the one person who wants KS to investigate the fraud that is RRT got banned for it?

Ugh, I'm just about done with the whole platform tbh.

The sad truth is as a backer who decides to stop backing new projects because of companies like Palladium Books, you lose nothing. It's the project creators that genuinely intend to use the platform to produce something they are passionate about that suffer. Way to destroy someone dreams Paladium.

 jaymz wrote:
NMI is just petty and vindictive and was likely for attention in order to play victim.

I would say that is rather charitable.
I was looking at it as offering flame bait to report more people.

Funny, I keep thinking of that Cars Movie quote:
[listening to Lightning's complaints while hauling Bessie]
Doc Hudson: Music. Sweet music.

That is the frame of reference I took it: angry people makes him happy.

NMI also got doxxed in that thread.

It got taken down, but it was all there.

You realize the next update is going to be like

Hai Goys! Kevster here!

We'd like you all to know Cartmen is on the mend but VARY FRAGILE right now from the CRISES OF HATRED that was heaped upon him. He think the ENTIRE ROLEPLAYING COMMUNITY HATES HIM!!!!!!!!!!!! We can't let the backers of a few toy robots win!!!!! To boost his confidence we need YOU guys to let him know we love and support him!!!! How can we do that? you ask? Well, I'm running a sell on anything Palladium that he was involved in and it would REALLY BOOST HIS CONFIDENCE if he saw a massive show of support by buying roleplaying games he was involved in. What better way to show support than BUYING product he was involved in to show we appreciate his tireless contributions to gaming. I'll also donate a (small) fraction on the products sold to offset medical bills and stuff. I'm so gracious and magnanimous this is not self servig at all. Together we can stop the CRISES OF HATRED!


The correct answer to this would be for Kevster to refund the money given for the Rifts IP until Carmen feels up to taking another charge at game development but you know Kevster, "Hey, a contract is a contract. That would put me in a delicate position. Quit suggesting ***I*** do something! I'm already cutting my own throat by putting books on sale!"

"I can't let someone out of a contract or I have to let everyone out of their contracts. My lawyer said so. I wish I could do otherwise, but my lawyer dictates every decision I make."

I would not put that past Kevin.

It would PAIN him that his lawyer advised him that his hands are tied in this regard. PAIN HIM! So buy some books already and quit trying to stick your nose in where it doesn't belong.

Kevin is to broke to hire a lawyer; besides I'm sure he thinks himself smarter than any lawyers out there.

I bet Kevin has been hounding Carmen about making a renewal payment if he doesn't go to print on time.

http://hwcdn.libsyn.com/p/3/4/2/3429a54423cd91a9/obg234_022017.mp3?c_id=14249340&destination_id=18769&expiration=1487892875&hwt=0e71c3f4e6c3cc3f260bb2ea45541383

There's a new Kickstarter Update.

Carmen's doing well.

Other than that, it's the same old wankery.

There is one new wrinkle. Apparently it's no longer a month for Chinese New Year that completely halts any ability to do anything. It's the time period from pre-Essen (October) through CNY that's cause for a "congested pipeline". So, if things don't happen before what, July/August (GenCon), they get to hide behind that excuse through until this time next year.

So, uh, Mike, want to provide a little context there?

If that's the same one people have mentioned this fiasco being talked about in, my understanding is that they don't come across as terribly informed, and it's like a 5 or 10 minute segment out of that 70 minute run time.

Mike, you need to put some context into URL's. Just linking a 70 minute podcast, with no context, and no specificity as to what you're wanting to address, isn't going to have me listening. And if I was concerned about data usage, I'd be miffed.

The Gamers on Game Podcast: Palladium Books RTT Discussion starts about 10 minute mark

Brandon has posted an update to help support Carmen (donations/cards) on the Palladium Books Forums: http://palladium-megaverse.com/forums/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=152879&hilit=Mumah

I even posted it on my blog. I stand by my comments there but I had a difficult time separating Carmen/Rogue Heroes. I think there is a difference.

As far as Jay goes (being banned) if I had to guess... His banning was likely in relation to the fact that he openly admitted that he planned to troll the future Rifts Board Game Kickstarter...

Hmmm... Someone should ask Kickstarter if Rogue Heroes was banned as well (just out of curiosity) since they we're discussing their Kickstarter in the comments section of another. The TOS isn't super specific in this regard, but it shouldn't be allowed. Then again Carmen is a creator on RRT... So who knows.

I wish the Kickstarter Ban Hammer was a bit more transparent and specific.

The idea that users are barred from discussing one project in the comments section of another is a huge, huge red flag regarding KS itself.

"You mean we get to use this Chinese New Year excuse EVERY YEAR??!?!" Kevin exclaimed excitedly, while plotting what crap to throw out as as excuse for not working the other four months a year.

Fun to see the White Knights in full wankery mode, however. Apparently, if you got Wave One you got everything you were owed.

Maff is hard, apparently.

 Manchu wrote:
The idea that users are barred from discussing one project in the comments section of another is a huge, huge red flag regarding KS itself.

I believe the "rule" is more to do with creators, rather than backers, using the Kickstarter to spruik non-Kickstarter related products and the like, and using it as a kind of advertising proxy.

So, you or I discussing the merits of one Kickstarter over another, is fine. Someone using their project's mailing list to sell a completely unrelated product? That's more what it's trying to avoid.

Mantic often cross-promote their stuff. But only within their own existent Kickstarters. Several others do.

But I could see where Kickstarter wouldn't want Creators backing numerous projects, just so they can advertise their own Kickstarters in the commentary. Not that I think it'd be effective (it looks like the number of people who read, let alone comment, is fractional). But I can see it as a problem if it wasn't regulated.

Not that I'm saying it happened with regards the Rifts Boardgame either. First off, Carmen doesn't actually link to anything. And second, if there hadn't been discussion about "warning people off", he might not have commented at all. I don't see any argument for banning Carmen, but then again, I don't see any reason for Jay to be punished, or Nathan to have his posts deleted (I don't know if he suffered any further punishment). While the result was tragic, I stand by my opinion that while a little heated, there was nothing in that exchange that warranted a suspension. I've seen similar levels of hostility on the Dakka Forums, that didn't get moderated. But c'est la vie.


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Merijeek wrote:
"You mean we get to use this Chinese New Year excuse EVERY YEAR??!?!" Kevin exclaimed excitedly, while plotting what crap to throw out as as excuse for not working the other four months a year.

More than that, he gets to write off at least October through February. The timeframe for getting quotes, or anything else done, is now only a halfyearly thing.


Kevin, on hearing the news.

Merijeek wrote:
"You mean we get to use this Chinese New Year excuse EVERY YEAR??!?!" Kevin exclaimed excitedly, while plotting what crap to throw out as as excuse for not working the other four months a year.

Fun to see the White Knights in full wankery mode, however. Apparently, if you got Wave One you got everything you were owed.

Maff is hard, apparently.

I'm pretty sure the rick hunter verotech was part of the actually campaign offering, not a stretch goal.

People pleadged with that model in the pledge descritions. And since it was pushed to wave 2, we still have a ticking point on that model at least

Ah, but that's the joy of dealing with Kevin's Cult.

"You pledged $300 on this stuff? With Palladium Books, everyone knows they're a bunch of people who are always at least a decade late. You deserved it!"

"You only pledged for $15? It's only $15! What are you, some kind of whiner? If you're such a loser that you can't handle a $15 loss maybe you should move back into your mom's basement!"

Any other dollar amount you'd like to throw out? I can use that amount to prove you're a terrible person too, if you'd like.