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Their booth is probably 1/2 if not 2/3 dominated by a magazine style rack of their RPG books which is all discounted 30% off. For Robotech® RPG Tactics™ they have a glass Ikea case a small 3x3 demo table and a half dozen of the metal convention special blister packs lined up on the table. I don't recall seeing any of their Robotech® RPG Tactics™ boxes actually on display, maybe it was there behind the table but I was trying not to look directly in the vicinity of NMI or the other guy working the booth since I didn't want to encourage them to start talking. Overall impression was that for being at a miniatures event they weren't being very focused on promoting miniatures.

To put things in contrast only one other booth had a RPG product which was a large local retailer (Games Plus) and their only rpg product was a D&D book that just released so it was a single item that was maybe 8-10 copies in a small stack and not even a shelf worth. Osprey had quite a few books but they were all miniatures game items, they didn't even have their historical reference books which is pretty extensive, so all the other retailers knew their market and that Adepticon is entirely miniatures focused. (which is why I like it so much)

The Ikea case had 3 of the shelves with painted models then the bottom shelf had the wave two prototypes they used in the promotional picture posted earlier in this thread. They did take the time to fix the arm on the FPA, I'm sure it was a very involved project. One shelf had the models painted by Blue Table and the other two shelves were likely done by fan friends or PB employees as the paints were a very basic table standard that you could see splotches of underlying paint layers without any highlighting or drybrushing so it was typical of what you see at the LGS from the average guy starting out. Not terrible but also not very inspiring. It works at a distance but it's not something most companies would use to promote their stuff. Sort of a low end "3 color minimum" style if it were a 40k equivalent.

Blue Table's paint quality on some of them was a decent tabletop standard but doesn't hold up all that well to a close inspection especially when you look at the display models of the other vendors, the stuff at Ninja DIvision for instance blows the pants off Robotech by miles as does any of the stuff from Reaper or evener small companies like Bushido. Most companies at Adepticon really put their best forward to promote things and while Robotech is present they don't do a very good job of showcasing it with any sort of "WOW" factor.

The only thing "new" is maybe the resin SDF-1 which was at last year's Gencon? so there's really nothing to draw people in at the booth. Some of the one man garage companies producing laser cut terrain and tokens do a better job of displaying and promoting their stuff, which probably leaves most onlookers with a "meh" reaction as they file past RRT towards something more interesting. I felt like it was their typical "good enough" approach with minimal investment of effort.



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Thanks for the update. Now the question is why are they there?

Keeping up the appearance of caring and relevance.

That is a good question "why are they at adepticon?" Also I did not hear that they attended the GAMA convention a few weeks ago.
I honestly think they are just waiting for the last nail in the coffin. Really don't know where the money is being generated from..
They are clueless on what they need to be doing.. I'm sure for every box set sold of RTT that at least half ordered the Monster
miniature.. So if that item is popular enough; wouldn't that be a good idea to produce? Retail sales would increase that number
of units sold..

Just like the ad they just released for the upcoming Rifts game.. It was half way done and looked like very juvenile produced.
You would never see a such thing coming from Games Workshop or any other company putting out advertisement like that.
Have they forgotten they are fighting for the same shelf space in the game stores?? The few game store owners I know but just
order a "few" (2-3) copies of Palladium releases when they come out. Most have put Palladium on the special order list now..
Where you have to personally request the product to come in.The Yawning Portal for Dungeons and Dragons the store
ordered forty copies.. That just shows the trust level with the store's owners that are selling their products

Called it over a month a go on ks's site. A booth with mostly rpg's and nothing new in the case. Not really surprised they aren't going out of their way to engage people either, they tend to just ignore most people i noticed the last 2 years i went to adepticon and tried asking anything.

 jaymz wrote:
Keeping up the appearance of caring and relevance.

Tax write-offs!

ced1106 wrote:

 jaymz wrote:
Keeping up the appearance of caring and relevance.

Tax write-offs!

Have to be earning money to pay tax first

Hard to believe that nothing has come out of their Adepticon visit.*

I mean, not even some amusing stories of strange encounters?

*Actually, this is not that hard to believe.

 Alpharius wrote:
Hard to believe that nothing has come out of their Adepticon visit.*

I mean, not even some amusing stories of strange encounters?

*Actually, this is not that hard to believe.

Strange encounters - like someone actually coming into their booth to buy RPG books at a miniatures convention?

Well I guess to help report how sad it was, the first time I went past the booth nmi and Wayne were building a veritechs squad and refused to look up again when I said hi. So went and dropped some money with forge world not giving pb a second look. Almost told a few guys I saw that bought some rrt stuff good luck finding players and I hope they didn't pay pb directly, but decided they need to find out on their own. Other than that some awesome looking armies all over the place and was nice running into some old freinds.

PB's booth at 2:17. Blink and you'll miss it.

It is a miniatures convention... Show off the miniatures! Sigh.

I must have blinked, because I didn't see the PB booth at 2:17!

ok found another walk thru video and you can see a brief glimpse of the palladium booth at about the 9:25 mark as he evidently totally snubs them:






pretty sad when he talks about everything there but the Palladium Booth.

As both videos show, there is no hiding the fact of what is going on with Palladium games. They went to a major gaming convention
that is mainly miniatures and took role play games.. The miniatures they do have is for a game they released three years ago with
no new releases and now in development @@@. I am sure the only reason they were at Adepticon is early on before Ninja Division
had left them.. The idea of going to Adepticon was a good idea.. And got stuck with a multi year agreement because it was cheaper..

There will always be fans of the games that will be excited about meeting Kevin and/or Wayne, but every passing
moment they keep driving their games into the ground the less they will have..

I can hear it now.. a Fan friend.. "Hey.. they used my idea".. No.. They stole your idea and didn't pay you for it.

I must have blinked, because I didn't see the PB booth at 2:17!

I think they were behind that huge wall of rpg books on the left.

Seriously it looked liked the sort of thing you'd set up to hide behind.

I really have to go to that show sometime.
MiniWargaming guys from down the road were there which would have been interesting.
With what was displayed there, can you seriously justify wasting one minute on PB?

Gotta be fast on that freeze frame lol. I don't blame the videos for shooting past the booth as I certainly didn't want to have to talk to anyone there, I didn't look past the front table line so I missed the product display in the rear of the booth. With a quick glance it sort of blended in with the banners. Maybe if enough people ignore PB they'll go away?



Still shots from the vids:

Wait, did they actually write "Palladium Crooks" on their sign?

6:42: Well, I guess AvP backers know where their models are -- in someone else's swag bag!

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Wait, did they actually write "Palladium Crooks" on their sign?

I will now change my Kickstarter handle to "Palladium Crooks".

Hey Palladium, check this out:

https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2017/03/lawsuit-3-5m-indiegogo-crowdfunded-drones-are-shoddy-not-delivered/

Yeah, you can even be sued for failing to deliver a bad product, in addition to failing to deliver at all...

I guess we don't have any Lawyers that are backers with Robotech Tactics..

And Kevin's excuse would be the campaign hasn't failed.. just delayed.. for more than 3 years..

In mildly interesting news, something Robotech related happened to me today. Some of you know I work for CoolStuffInc. I actually work in the miniatures department. Funny, I know.

Anyway, working at my desk when one of the guys from receiving comes over and says: "Hey, got some Robotech in today."

I immediately freak out - "What?! Where?! Show me!"

He replied: "It's a rulebook."

The same rulebook that came in the box.

Whoopity Freakin' Doo!

Do I recall that Palladium said they were going to release this? Like years ago?

At least its a release? Jazz hands?

Wasn't it also supposed to be released as a PDF at some point?

 Kendachi wrote:


Do I recall that Palladium said they were going to release this? Like years ago?

At least its a release? Jazz hands?

I believe this was available (in the Christmas packages) since the boxed set was available, unfortunately, so it's not a new release.

Now, if it had been the campaign scenarios they lifted from their fan-friends they had on display last Gencon, that would have been something newish - at least bound in print form.

Sweet now I can buy a 4th rulebook to join my others that are collecting dust due to a lack of players.

I can't believe retailers are still picking this up.

 Stormonu wrote:

 Kendachi wrote:


Do I recall that Palladium said they were going to release this? Like years ago?

At least its a release? Jazz hands?

I believe this was available (in the Christmas packages) since the boxed set was available, unfortunately, so it's not a new release.

Now, if it had been the campaign scenarios they lifted from their fan-friends they had on display last Gencon, that would have been something newish - at least bound in print form.

Regarding rulebook availability, yep. It might not have been released immediately, but it's been in the webstore since at least early 2015.

Regarding the scenario book, it's not ready yet. Kevin needs to figure out how much he needs to rewrite so that he can claim first credit on the front cover. Whether or not he learns the rules before he starts tinkering with scenario balance, is anyone's guess.

So, the latest PBWU is up.

Surprisingly, a lot of talking about RRT. Not suprisingly, still very scant on actual information. Quick summary by para.
- Relaunch expected this year, and into next year. Wave 2 not specified in the former.
- More promises of support (tounaments, campaign and sourcebooks, build and paint programs) all BEFORE Wave 2. Scenario book approved by HG. Again, promises of lots more stuff.
- Please by Wave 1! People are still finding out about it and are excited!

Then there's a section on Adepticon that has more RRT spiel.
- Adepticon was a big success! We sold out (or came close) of most things! Non-stop demos, and everyone loved it!
- Announcement of three GenCon tournies, and people being excited!
- gRifts mention.
- Wayne and Co were building their armies. There's a joke there about it being 30+ months, and they're still working on it (cause the miniatures are so fiddly) but while PB are a joke, I don't find them that funny.

On the RPG front, the inevitable slide of release dates has started. Since literally last week...
HOH Arsenal has gone from March/April to May.
Disavowed has gone from Spring to Spring/Summer
Garden of the Gods has gone from April/May to "tentative May/June"
Atlanteans has gone from April to May.
Sovietski has gone from Spring/Summer to Summer.

Those are the five books originally slated for a release by end of June. And of course this being PB, they've accelerated an otherwise unknown book (it first appeared last week), Dark Designs, into a June/July release date, so they can ship "Raw" copies now. Because the five books promised, and the RRT stuff promised, and the new stuff promised, aren't enough things for them to concentrate on getting out.

The only thing to expect from PB is they'll fail to meet a majority of their promises, if not all of them. Kicking the can down the road, and then pretending that was where the can always was, is PB's SOP.