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 Stormonu wrote:
Out of idle curiosity, what is the state of everyone's collection? Mine's been assembled, the RDF primed and a squad or two partly painted. It's all been put on the shelf, and I don't have anyone who is even interested in playing a game, so I haven't tried out the rules (though reading over them, the sound okay - just too many H-T-H combat options that mostly won't get used).

I opened my box and looked over the sprues, but they are just such a mess, and I was so angry over the game, that I just packed everything away and stuck it in a corner of the garage. At this point, I don't anticipate ever putting together any of the miniatures or playing the game. Its just money flushed down the toilet.

 mdauben wrote:

 Stormonu wrote:
Out of idle curiosity, what is the state of everyone's collection? Mine's been assembled, the RDF primed and a squad or two partly painted. It's all been put on the shelf, and I don't have anyone who is even interested in playing a game, so I haven't tried out the rules (though reading over them, the sound okay - just too many H-T-H combat options that mostly won't get used).

I opened my box and looked over the sprues, but they are just such a mess, and I was so angry over the game, that I just packed everything away and stuck it in a corner of the garage. At this point, I don't anticipate ever putting together any of the miniatures or playing the game. Its just money flushed down the toilet.

Pretty much me too. I bought two starters at retail and a box of Zent Arty and the non-box Destroids. I opened one starter, looked at the contents, read the rulebook and haven't done anything since.

However, I do think you can use the models very well in other games that I DO play, but I just haven't been bothered. Games like Horizon Wars and Rampant Stars.

In the last year I have built/painted next to nothing and anything I did work on was for All Quiet on the Martian Front instead (also bought at Retail). I have played many games of that.

I'm going to say congrats as well, Megatron that's a big revelation. I'm glad at least something came from all this.

Out of idle curiosity, what is the state of everyone's collection? Mine's been assembled, the RDF primed and a squad or two partly painted. It's all been put on the shelf, and I don't have anyone who is even interested in playing a game, so I haven't tried out the rules (though reading over them, the sound okay - just too many H-T-H combat options that mostly won't get used).

I sold my stuff about as soon as I got it. I actually feel pretty bad about it since I promised the buyer I'd send him the Wave 2 stuff as well (oops). I still took a bit of a loss to get the minis off my hands.

I did keep 1 box of destroids since Unseen mechs are awesome. I assembled 1 and the rest of the sprue went into my unfinished projects box. I actually just found it again yesterday while looking for some bases and wow these are still awful minis.

So, saw a local game shop picked up some RTT boxes for retail. No core boxes, just expansion packs.

I can't recall them.having any RTT stuff in the past couple of years, so either someone sold them unopened packs, or they decided to order the stock.

Whelp, the latest update is out. Nothing new.

Jefffar wrote:
So, saw a local game shop picked up some RTT boxes for retail. No core boxes, just expansion packs.

I can't recall them.having any RTT stuff in the past couple of years, so either someone sold them unopened packs, or they decided to order the stock.

I really don't think there is a major push for the models. Last I looked at Miniature Market they had all the stuff on Clearance.

More that likely a distributor had ample stock of the expansions and was selling them for penny on the dollar to clear year end inventory.

Any shop will pick up dirt cheap stuff just to throw on the shelves.. Even if it don't sale.. the shop don't have that much invested.. (not like RTT Backers)

Jefffar wrote:
So, saw a local game shop picked up some RTT boxes for retail. No core boxes, just expansion packs.

I can't recall them.having any RTT stuff in the past couple of years, so either someone sold them unopened packs, or they decided to order the stock.

Well, that's some exciting news. As a reward, maybe Kevin will let Wayne turn on the heat in his office for the next week.

Update #212

Oct 31 2017

My Tenth Update - Checking In

Hi all, Scott here.

Force Org Charts update

Thank you to everyone who has sent in their thoughts to feedback{at}palladiumbooks{dot}com so far on the Force Organization Charts. Please feel free to send in more thoughts and ideas as you can.

SDF-1 Bases - still waiting

I am still waiting on the new renders for the SDF-1 bases. As soon as I get them I will post them here.

Final Thoughts

To all those who celebrate Halloween, I hope you had wonderful (and spooky) fun. I'll be back again in two weeks, November 14th.

It doesn't appear as if Scott is even going to bother to try now...

 Alpharius wrote:
It doesn't appear as if Scott is even going to bother to try now...

That definitely seems to be the case. I do idly wonder how much the lack of enthusiasm from him is on the negative reception, or how little he's getting from PBHQ. Basically is he a corporate shill complicit in deceiving backers, or a well meaning dupe who was convinced that he could turn things around, only to run head first into Kevin's incompetent bs. End result is the same, but if he's still there in the new year peddling this crap, the answer is clearly the former.

Another idle wonder is how many emails he actually received regarding the force orgs. Cause as I mentioned here and on PB's forum, myself excepted, I've seen zero discussion publicly. It definitely smells of Kevin's brand of overexuberant wankery masquerading as significance.

Just the usual smoke screen.

I think I feel offended that these "updates" could even be given serious consideration as "evidence" of progress.

At least at this point, it does not even give a passing attempt at placating backers.

I must still have some spark of optimism in me to even bother to read these "updates". Time I will never get back. At least it was short.

At least the water has finally all boiled away now, right?

 Alpharius wrote:
At least the water has finally all boiled away now, right?

They are trying to re-condense the steam.
Despite what little optimism that may remain in me, when it comes to Palladium doing anything for RRT: it will only get dusted off if they can see some means of flogging some other spin-off item.
Looking at PB website updates, Kev is back to his main focus on his beloved books: business as usual (Christmas surprise package!!!).
At least their Christmas offering is more honest than normal: they give you what they feel like giving you, which is how they always operated.

There is only so much we can talk about here for getting our wave1 stuff useful, the fancy models are all wave2 and anything I may have there is not IP licensed / approved stuff.
Really strange state of affairs.
Customers that really wanted stuff and a supplier that really wants the money, but does not want to supply the stuff...

Oh well.
Fantasy Flight and Games Workshop has been "good" in my books and been a good distraction.

As we near the end of the year, we're probably due another recap.

How did PB due this year in terms of actually getting out what they said they would?

And how much new content did they actually put out in total?

Christmas Surprise Packages keep the company afloat. That's what gets Kevin's attention.

 Alpharius wrote:
It doesn't appear as if Scott is even going to bother to try now...

I am shocked, shocked to learn that.

I think the saddest thing about the latest update is the people who actually said they liked it.

Oh it was Red Duke Games and the usual White Knight Palladium apologists, who like anything and everything that comes out from them

 n815e wrote:
Christmas Surprise Packages keep the company afloat. That's what gets Kevin's attention.

While I can't believe that's true...is it actually true?

Ah excellent you guys are still discussing this. I have computed the results from my poll and will share the results with you guys soon.

I was also inspired to re-open my box set and give some thought to assembling the minis, but man, it looks like I would never end. Assuming I was to properly sand down each part and take the time to paint well. And then I would just be disappointed with the game play.

Maybe we should just make out own rulebook.

 Alpharius wrote:

 n815e wrote:
Christmas Surprise Packages keep the company afloat. That's what gets Kevin's attention.

While I can't believe that's true...is it actually true?

I couldn't possibly know that, just speculation.

However, they run it 4-6 months per year. They sell the stuff to their customers for essentially wholesale prices, but directly, so they are still profiting. They get to choose what to send, which means that slow moving or damaged product still gets sold.

Even though I will probably never assemble or paint anything for this game or even play it; I still sort of want another box of Zent Arty and the Non-core Destroids.

Easy E don't do it, you'll end up like me with 3 starter boxes that you can't even give away.

 Swabby wrote:
Easy E don't do it, you'll end up like me with 3 starter boxes that you can't even give away.

I still have a bunch of minis/sprues from the painting contests sitting in a box.

 Vertrucio wrote:
LOL, suit yourselves guys. Keeping the thread around is fine if you feel you need it.
I was just hoping some here would move on and do something like create the thing they've been looking for instead of waiting for a company that is highly unlikely to fulfill your desires.
Fine, you don't need to get over it, but using the anger to move forward is more helpful.
There is a serious lack of a good mecha game on the market, and a group of angry like minded people like in this thread could be motivated to beat RRT at its own game.

Funny you mention that, because there's a very active facebook group for RRT and they've been doing just that: creating missing figures. I'm at work and can't get on facebook to grab photos to repost, but there's a few guys that are creating STL files to 3D print your own Southern Cross and MOSPEADA figures and they've created fan rules for using them. So there ARE people that are doing with this game exactly what PB SHOULD be doing with it, despite PB's complete disregard for it.

Out of idle curiosity, what is the state of everyone's collection? Mine's been assembled, the RDF primed and a squad or two partly painted. It's all been put on the shelf, and I don't have anyone who is even interested in playing a game, so I haven't tried out the rules (though reading over them, the sound okay - just too many H-T-H combat options that mostly won't get used).

All the RRT figs I plan to build and paint are built and painted, although I have some extras if I ever want more duplicates. Then again, I never planned on using Palladium's rules unless they really knocked it out of the park. I got into Battletech because they made Robotech figures. I supported RRT to get Robotech figures for my Battletech (it's a vicious, vicious cycle) since it meant high quality Unseens that were EXACTLY Robotech figures instead of slightly different Robotech figures. RRT as a game has little appeal to me, the rules are far too simple for my taste in games and Macross was always my least favorite of the 3 sub series. Macross is still great, but my love has alwys been the destroids and the Zentraedi excluding the standard battlepods. The ones I care about (MPA, FPA, armored infantry, Gnerls etc) were all wave 2 and will never be done at this point, let alone Southern Cross/MOSPEADA. If RRT ever has Cyclones and Alphas and Invid I'll maybe be interested in playing actual RRT, but mostly I just picked up a select few boxes to use as BT unseens. I must say, the assembly doesn't bother me at all since I'm only building a few of them, they go together exactly like the old 1/200 scale macross models, but the idea of putting together a playable force from these figures is an instant NOPE-fest

That is some first rate work on those models - kudos on the results there.

I have been having a hankering to get some legios (the new gen/mospeada jet fighters) - in a bigger scale to sit on my desk, but the RRT scale would have them too tiny for my tired old eyes to paint.

I think in many ways its better the community has moved on and created their own stuff and left PB out of the loop. At least stuff gets done (and in probably better quality). Seems a similar sort of thing has happened with Star Trek models - with the community busy making their own models for games. I guess the lesson is if a company doesn't provide what it customers want, these days folks are just a phone text away from sharing their own creations to fill the gap.

Excellent work, Kalamadea. Good colors and sweet bases.

How are the facebook guys dealing with the scale differences for Mospeada/Southern Cross?

Thanks guys.

A few of them are making larger scales, but mostly they're just treating the game as a 6mm game. The cyclones are a little more like 9mm, just to have more detail.

Please note, NONE of these following pictures are mine, ll of them are from the FB group Robotech Tactics "unnoficial"

Wow, those are nice. Wouldn't mind getting my hands on the Sentinel-style mecha, those battlepods are extremely well done - look like they came right off the cel sheet.

Well, it's certainly interesting to see how some guy can design and produce from scratch at their own home while PB can't seem to be able to even find their own collective behinds...

Holy crap those are fantastic! I know they're not quite the same scale as normal BT figures, are they larger or smaller? I have a bunch of unopened boxes of Destriods that your models have given me the itch to assemble for BT figures. The newer BT plastics seem to have creeped up in size a bit compared to the IW metals anyhow so if the RTT Destriods are larger they may actually fit well. The BattleMaster that came with the new core set is positively *huge* compared to the the IW metals and honestly a lot of the BT plastics.

The destroids are nearly spot-on perfect, they're about 1-2mm shorter, but something you only notice when they're side by side with the actual BT figures and even then you have to be looking for it. The Valkyries are too tall but workable for Wasps and Stingers, but would work well if you could get the super valkyrie pieces for a Pheonix Hawk or an armored Veritech for a Crusader. All of the Zentraedi stuff is far too large of course, the officer's battlepod works OK for 10mm clickytech but is way out of scale for a regular Marauder. Here's my trusty old plastic Warhammer next to his replacement (sorry for the terrible lighting, just grabbed a quick pic on my cellphone to show off the scale).

For bases, the 1" plastic Hex bases from Reaper Minis are also spot on perfect for the old metal Ral Partha/IWM bases, ignore the name they're actually 30MM along the bottom flat-to-flat and the exact same height.