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 jaymz wrote:
I liked the Yamato live action movie....though yes it was a bit rushed.

Gatchaman looks sweet.

It's not. Trust me on this, it is anything but sweet.

If you must see it rent or stream, don't buy.

Lol ok thx.

 Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's not. Trust me on this, it is anything but sweet.
If you must see it rent or stream, don't buy.

One more dream crushed...

The *idea* of live action Gatchaman looks sweet to what used to be 9-year-old me. I will try to rent or stream it.

I hope LA Gatchaman is at least better than LA Casshern.

Not that we'd ever be getting LA Robotech with the way the rights are. But here's hoping a LA Macross can be possible once HG is out of the picture.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
LA Casshern.

I'd never seen or even heard of the original anime, but a friend lent me the live action movie several years ago. I found it quite interesting. Specifically it had an element of unpredictability that kept me riveted to the screen. Every time I thought I recognized the story "pattern" and figured I knew what would happen next, the film would suddenly shift and leave me lost and trying to get to grips with it again. Maybe that's just because of my limited experience to Japanese films (though I was seriously into anime at the time), but regardless; I enjoyed it so much that I ended up buying the 3-disc special edition DVD. Kind of interesting use of VFX too; they aren't exactly great (even for the time), but they are all-encompassing, creating a world that's not quite real but is very different; I felt it added to the surreal nature of the whole thing, helping me to lose myself in the world it was creating.

I'm sure it's not what I would have wanted if I had any affection for the original anime and wanted to see characters who I knew doing awesome stuff, but divorced from that it was... an experience at any rate.

"Surreal" is a great descriptor of LA Casshern's look. If you watch it on a large TV, it's fascinating due to the "uncanny valley" thing going on, and the way things were rendered. But it's not really a very good movie, for the storytelling issues you identified.

Well it looks like the RRT group on facebook has sent a letter of intent to sue PB....stay posted folks.

 Stormonu wrote:
Well it looks like the RRT group on facebook has sent a letter of intent to sue PB....stay posted folks.

Awesome. Hope something comes of it.

Latest PBWU is up. There's mention in the opening paragraph of "Robotech", but nothing specifically about Tactics, and nothing of content. Weirdly, Kevin hasn't done a SotC style Update. Maybe he's learning.... nah.

Looks like Sovietski might be finished soon-ish. Of course, Kevin is retroactively pretending it is on time. "Still on track for an end of February release.".

As usual, Kevin spouts how awesome it is.

Everyone who has seen the finished sections of the Sovietski Soldier revisited, the Spetsnaz secret police/special forces, the D-Bees, the Religious Enclaves, and ... well, pretty much any of it, has gone wild over it. The first word out of their mouth being, “Wow.” I think that’s my favorite word for a critique of a book.

Frankly, these people are just feeding delusions at this point. But people aren't just blowing smoke, they tell Kevin how it really is.

The two animal compendium books that were supposed to be out in December and January have now been shifted to "Winter", as has Face of Death. Anyone want to bet that Kevin will get all three books beyond Sovietski out by the end of March? No takers? Didn't think so.

Living Nowhere is being Kevinized (heavy edits, probably a full rewrite), and what was on June 9th 2017, supposed to be a July 2017 release, is now a Spring 2018 release. That's going from <2 months, to 10+ months. It's just ridiculous.

Thankfully no other book has a release date. So that's one less thing he's got to change over the next couple months.

OK now Harmony Gold is just trolling us.

https://robotech.com/store/product/robotech-muscle-wave-1-full-set

At this point, Palladium should just subcontract with them to product one piece superdeformed rubber wave 2 minis. At least we'd have something/anything for our money in that case instead of Palladium probably slowly siphoning off cash from a pile of hundres of thousands of dollars for ongoing operating expenses while they're "working" on it.

I always wanted make a fighting game for muscles. The heroclix Ali boxing ring really pushed me back to the idea.
But don’t plan to buy them or anything else until the end of rrt

As for my email rant to the various companies; I got back automated replies basically saying it’s not a problem unless they say it is.

Good to see a group of people getting together to sue Kevin and palladium games; funny thing is I noticed
They now call themselves pallium books now.

I guess it’s something like my local internet company being called charter and now spectrum. Name change
Makes all the bad press go away. But don’t help me get internet installed in my house because one reason I’ve
Been quite is only had the phone for my connection.

They were always called Palladium Books.

So... it's approaching the 2 month mark now right?

I don't even know what they're thinking, like I can get the fake updates those make sense. But now have they just given up?

 ScarletRose wrote:
So... it's approaching the 2 month mark now right?

I don't even know what they're thinking, like I can get the fake updates those make sense. But now have they just given up?

For the record, it's approaching 5 weeks late from when the last was due, or 7 weeks since the last Update.

And the only reason I can think of for being so late, is that Scott thought he was on the cusp of being able to announce something big, and as with all PB bs, it keeps getting delayed*, and Scott's realized that coming back with "We hoped to have good news, but", won't go over well with the backers.

* Rifts Sovietski, according to the latest PBWU was delayed from the next stage of completion, because Kevin forgot to complete writing a significant section of the book. Kevin blows it off as just packing the book with awesome, but the reality is the entire company are fethed when it comes to completing a project on time. Kevin flits around from book to book to book (to occasionally for a while, RRT), and that's why a half dozen plus books have been almost complete for several years. He's like a ferret hopped up on cocaine. "Oooh! Shiny!"

Or, like you suggest, Scott gave up. Like I alluded to above, there's simply not much upside for Scott. He's either not doing the work, not allowed to do the work, or not having the work done that he's organized, so there's nothing to report some 8 months after he said 6 months to completion was possible. He's used every arguable excuse, and he's literally got nothing to show for it. There's no revised estimate, as they don't even appear close to STARTING the clock. So, the only thing posting on his regular schedule gets him, is some credibility. And the contents (or lack thereof) of his posts, destroy any credibility he might gain. He knows he's hosed unless he brings at least a moderate amount of news.

So it's better to just wait it out. As can be seen both here and on the Kickstarter, and even on PB's Forums and Facebook page, public resentment dies down. On the Kickstarter, the last page worth of comments (50 before "Show Older Comments") is 5+ full days worth, less than 10 a day. Directly after an Update, you're looking at 50+ outraged posts a day for a couple days. So again, there doesn't appear to be an upside to stirring up the hornet's nest.

Morgan Vening wrote:

And the only reason I can think of for being so late, is that Scott thought he was on the cusp of being able to announce something big, and as with all PB bs, it keeps getting delayed*, and Scott's realized that coming back with "We hoped to have good news, but", won't go over well with the backers.

The one or two times he was potentially on the cusp of anything (like quotes supposedly around gencon), he just ignored it afterwards. If he actually did his job and kept his promises about keeping backers informed, I'd be cutting him more slack. Instead, he's fallen into the habit of just ignoring the problem of non-fulfillment and hoping the complaints go away.

As can be seen both here and on the Kickstarter, and even on PB's Forums and Facebook page, public resentment dies down. On the Kickstarter, the last page worth of comments (50 before "Show Older Comments") is 5+ full days worth, less than 10 a day. Directly after an Update, you're looking at 50+ outraged posts a day for a couple days. So again, there doesn't appear to be an upside to stirring up the hornet's nest.

Eh, not to pull a Simbieda (hatred for RRT is HEATING UP this season!) but honestly, things may have quieted on surface but the backers are getting more organized. I just saw the legal letter one of the backers had his lawyer send to PB on the FB group today.

Now granted, a letter isn't anywhere near enough, but it's a first step and he's got backers proactively offering money to get a piece of PB. Vengeance isn't something that just goes away.

Speaking of stuff, I just saw this at my local Target:

Backers are getting legal action going? How do I jump on board? I don't care if I lose money, if it drives a dishonest, preying, thieving man and company out of business then I'm all for it.

It would be different if he put in an effort, but this whole thing was sketchy from the start. From the rumors they used funds to build a home, to lack of any updates, no attempt at progress, lies (instead of just saying "we're out of money, we mismanaged it, sorry"), bullying those who spoke out against the wrongdoing... Yea PB needs to get shut down.

Interesting thing is folks and stores have literally thrown the product away due to no sales, no players, etc. Recently I saw a kickstarter 1st wave sell for around $100! Guess the game is not totally dead, but I've switched back to battletech, gundam tactics, and mobile suit skirmish instead.

 JohnHwangDD wrote:
Speaking of stuff, I just saw this at my local Target:

That's a blast from the past! I remember when my elementary school banned those cards for being too disruptive or something. I didn't have that particular card, but I did have the alternate card (Garbage Pail Kids had two names for every design) with the name "Hot Head Harry" on it.

 warboss wrote:

Morgan Vening wrote:

And the only reason I can think of for being so late, is that Scott thought he was on the cusp of being able to announce something big, and as with all PB bs, it keeps getting delayed*, and Scott's realized that coming back with "We hoped to have good news, but", won't go over well with the backers.

The one or two times he was potentially on the cusp of anything (like quotes supposedly around gencon), he just ignored it afterwards. If he actually did his job and kept his promises about keeping backers informed, I'd be cutting him more slack. Instead, he's fallen into the habit of just ignoring the problem of non-fulfillment and hoping the complaints go away.

Ignoring the problem is what agitates backers and underscores that nothing is being done.
"Here's a new character" is different than "Here's a new character to hold you over while these details are being worked out with the manufacturer we contracted with" have different effects.

 n815e wrote:
Ignoring the problem is what agitates backers and underscores that nothing is being done.
"Here's a new character" is different than "Here's a new character to hold you over while these details are being worked out with the manufacturer we contracted with" have different effects.

Well one effect its: "Oh cute, they created a character as an award for a tournament with 6 players. Oh look, even the winner said they got it wrong" The other effect: "Two weeks later this is the best you crooks could come up with? What happened to the quotes?"

They will not admit to running out of funds, nor will they admit to failure. It doesn't coincide with Kevins' narrative of how great he and his company is.

Let’s see what effect the backer letter has.

 ScarletRose wrote:

As can be seen both here and on the Kickstarter, and even on PB's Forums and Facebook page, public resentment dies down. On the Kickstarter, the last page worth of comments (50 before "Show Older Comments") is 5+ full days worth, less than 10 a day. Directly after an Update, you're looking at 50+ outraged posts a day for a couple days. So again, there doesn't appear to be an upside to stirring up the hornet's nest.

Eh, not to pull a Simbieda (hatred for RRT is HEATING UP this season!) but honestly, things may have quieted on surface but the backers are getting more organized. I just saw the legal letter one of the backers had his lawyer send to PB on the FB group today.

Now granted, a letter isn't anywhere near enough, but it's a first step and he's got backers proactively offering money to get a piece of PB. Vengeance isn't something that just goes away.

Maybe they need a kickstarter to sue Palladium. That would be the ultimate in poetic justice.

I would absolutely match my original pledge to a kickstarter that was done to sue palladium

 n815e wrote:
Let’s see what effect the backer letter has.

I think we've already seen it, or are seeing it...

I did actually suggest a KS for the purpose of legal action against PB, a few dozen pages ago

 Alpharius wrote:

 n815e wrote:
Let’s see what effect the backer letter has.

I think we've already seen it, or are seeing it...

Hah, yes. Perhaps you are right.

 HudsonD wrote:
I did actually suggest a KS for the purpose of legal action against PB, a few dozen pages ago

It's pedantry, but far as I know Kickstarter doesn't allow such campaigns.

However, other platforms like GoFundMe and whatnot do, if I'm not mistaken.

So, yeah, we could crowdfund legal services somehow, but not literally on Kickstarter.

I'll believe it when I see it, and frankly would be wary of sending more money to any random person (backer or not) and expecting substantial results. Or anything more than them just walking off with the money.

But if the litigation FB group is finally getting some momentum after years(?) of doing nothing, cool.

Yeah, I believe KS has to result in the creation of some sort of product (the irony of that and the non-existent wave 2 notwithstanding). The simple way to get around that would be to technically fund the creation of a simple mobile app allowing backers to sign up to sue Palladium instead of directly collecting funds to sue. A simple program where all it does is take your email and add you to a list shouldn't take more than a few hours of coding with someone who knows what they're doing (not me... BASIC and PASCAL on the Apple II in the late 80's were my last programing attempts). KS doesn't care as long as they get their cut.

 n815e wrote:

 Alpharius wrote:

 n815e wrote:
Let’s see what effect the backer letter has.

I think we've already seen it, or are seeing it...

Hah, yes. Perhaps you are right.

I was joking.

Kind of...

I'm sure the real 'response' will be to ignore, obfuscate, deny and pretend like it is still 1988...