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 insaniak wrote:

 jokerkd wrote:
Half of the formations and detachments in the book allow you to take vehicles in the same detachment as units with CT.

or how about the fact that a unit with CT is permitted to take a dedicated transport that doesn't have CT

Neither of which answers the question.

You don't consider datasheets part of the rules?

 jokerkd wrote:

 insaniak wrote:

 jokerkd wrote:
Half of the formations and detachments in the book allow you to take vehicles in the same detachment as units with CT.

or how about the fact that a unit with CT is permitted to take a dedicated transport that doesn't have CT

Neither of which answers the question.

You don't consider datasheets part of the rules?

You are correct that the formations have slots that either require or allow for vehicles to be taken as part of them. That still doesn't allow you to ignore the rule that requires everything in a detachment or formation to be drawn from the same chapter. This is the problem. Those vehicles, aside from dreadnoughts, cannot be currently labeled as part of a chapter.

 FlingitNow wrote:

This is where I think the rules gap, if there is one in the RAW, exists. There is no permission to draw units from a chapter explicitly stated in this codex.

Your very next paragraph disagrees with you:

"When choosing an army you must make a note of which Chapter each unit with the Chapter Tactics rule is being drawn from." The wording of this rule prohibits drawing a single unit from multiple chapters

So here not only am I seeing permission for units with CTs to bedrawn from a Chapter but a requirement to pick one. Where issuch pepermission for nonCT units?

No, a requirement to do something when X happen is not permission for you to cause X to happen.

You must make a note of the Chapter they are drawn from. How are you not making a note of the chapter they are drawn from from?

Requiring you make a note of the chapter they are drawn from does not give you permission to draw them from a chapter in the 1st place. Much the same way requiring that you roll your Rs when speaking Spanish does not cause you to be able to speak Spanish or requiring you to exit the building when the fire alarm is pulled does not give you permission to pull the fire alarm. Or to bring it back to 40k terms, requiring that you snap fire all your weapons when your vehicle moves at cruising speed does not give you permission to move your vehicle at cruising speed.

Making a note is picking a Chapter though. That is the point.

"When choosing an army, you must make a note of which Chapter each unit with the Chapter Tactics special rule is drawn from."

If the unit doesn't have the chapter tactics special rule, you're not making a note of it.

No, making a note of what you picked is not picking. When you draw units from a chapter you inevitably have to pick which chapter you are drawing them from.

 DJGietzen wrote:
No, making a note of what you picked is not picking. When you draw units from a chapter you inevitably have to pick which chapter you are drawing them from.

Cool beans. I disagree but see where you're coming from. However your interpretation still leads to me being able to put Calgary and Pedro in the same detachment as I've no instructions on how to draw units from chapter (outside of the posted rule you disagree on). But hey you can take nonCT units that way.

Either way RaW is very broken.

Which seems like a good place to give this one a rest...

To summarise: rules are broken, but we all know what they meant. If in doubt, discuss with your opponent.