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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/24 06:16:29
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Tunneling Trygon
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Search engines have been turning up forums, so time to ask the forum. Any alternative Templates out there? The Apocalyptic Blast one for a dead Imperial Knight? That's 10" I believe? Finally took the jump into Superheavies but good old GW doesn't restock.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/24 07:35:13
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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You have the massive blast which is 7". In addition, the hell storm… the big ass flamer template
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Prahhhhhh the Emperahhhhh
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/24 07:36:55
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Tunneling Trygon
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Xenophon00 wrote:You have the massive blast which is 7". In addition, the hell storm… the big ass flamer template
Maybe I wasn't clear. Looking for other places and companies that make the Apocalyptic Blast marker since GW doesn't restock to supply them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/24 07:41:35
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Sister Oh-So Repentia
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Actually GW does. They do the Hellstorm template which use the Apocalyptic one http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Apocalypse-Hellstorm-Template
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/06/24 07:42:18
Prahhhhhh the Emperahhhhh
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/24 07:51:19
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Tunneling Trygon
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http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Apocalyptic-Blast-Template
That is an Apocalyptic Blast. Specific thing. Not a Hellstorm, not a Barrage, an Apocalyptic Blast. You can't place a Hellstorm over a dead Knight and make that work as D/2/4 AP values for each ring.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 09:37:39
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Tunneling Trygon
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Hate having to bump but hoping someone knows where to find them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 10:11:11
Subject: Re:Alternative Templates
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Commander of the Mysterious 2nd Legion
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Opinions are not facts please don't confuse the two |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 10:24:16
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Tunneling Trygon
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Sure is in the UK. Wonder if I can ship it stateside from there. And if it'll get here within a month...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 14:59:53
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Glorious Lord of Chaos
The burning pits of Hades, also known as Sweden in summer
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SharkoutofWata wrote:http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Apocalyptic-Blast-Template
That is an Apocalyptic Blast. Specific thing. Not a Hellstorm, not a Barrage, an Apocalyptic Blast. You can't place a Hellstorm over a dead Knight and make that work as D/2/4 AP values for each ring.
The template that uses different S and AP values (and indeed, the one used when a superheavy dies) is the Apocalyptic Mega-Blast, is it not? It's 15".
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 16:10:38
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Tunneling Trygon
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No, it still uses the 10" marker, but it has the seperate values for the rings. Technically the effect is called the Apocalyptic Mega-Blast but it uses the same marker as Apocalyptic Blast. Pg158 of the mini-rulebook.
You scared me though, cause I haven't even seen a 15" marker and thought I was even more unprepared than before...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 16:58:22
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Infiltrating Broodlord
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SharkoutofWata wrote:No, it still uses the 10" marker, but it has the seperate values for the rings. Technically the effect is called the Apocalyptic Mega-Blast but it uses the same marker as Apocalyptic Blast. Pg158 of the mini-rulebook.
You scared me though, cause I haven't even seen a 15" marker and thought I was even more unprepared than before...
Ashiraya is correct, there's an even bigger one.
Escalation templates are;
Hellstorm flamer template; 16.5" long. Basically a regular flamer template on the small end that spreads to a Large Blast size on the big end.
Massive blast: 7" Circle
Apocalyptic Blast: 10" Circle
Apocalyptic Mega-Blast; 15" outer ring, 10" middle ring, 5" inner ring. The weapon stats for these are wonky, and each ring has a different strength and AP value. For example, an Orbital Strike has a Strength of 10/8/6 and an AP value of 1/4/-. So really strong at the inner (S10, AP1) moderate in the middle (S8 AP4) and weakish at the biggest ring (S6 AP-).
Apocalyptic Barrage; Basically 5 linked 5" templates that are a bitch to resolve.
After re-reading the rule book....man, this is a STUPID system. It says that when playing Apocalypse, you should use the full 15" mega blast, but when playing 40k, use the 10" maker ( apoc blast) and the 7"/5" rings on it to denote the different zones. What constitutes an Apoc game from 40k anymore exactly? It's also a fairly heavy nerf to Apoc mega-blast weapons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 20:56:21
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
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It's whether you agreed to play Apocalypse or not, I believe.
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Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
Number 1: That's terror.
Number 2: That's terror.
Dark Angels/Angels of Vengeance combo - ???? - Input wanted! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/27 23:44:09
Subject: Re:Alternative Templates
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Regular Dakkanaut
North Coast, NSW, Australia
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'Anyone can win, but it takes a good man to lose.'
-Louis Guzman |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/28 00:54:09
Subject: Re:Alternative Templates
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
England
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Should work for him, looks pretty legit and it's American stuff!
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Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
Number 1: That's terror.
Number 2: That's terror.
Dark Angels/Angels of Vengeance combo - ???? - Input wanted! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/28 04:36:16
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Tunneling Trygon
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That looks like it'll be my only option. Thanks. Surprised more places don't make replacements for these templates.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/06/28 11:03:30
Subject: Alternative Templates
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Revving Ravenwing Biker
England
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Yeah, that seems kind of odd.
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Don't believe me? It's all in the numbers.
Number 1: That's terror.
Number 2: That's terror.
Dark Angels/Angels of Vengeance combo - ???? - Input wanted! |
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