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Has anyone got the big fluff book yet? I was expecting more leaks from it... I'm interested in the fluff of the Free Peoples and what the army selection for scenarios is like.
Quickly - we haven't seen the dwarfs other than a picture of the Fyreslayers (with red beards and hair rather than orange) and the elves are missing in the fluff. Tyrion and Malerion (malekith) are looking for them. No mentions of regular humans to speak of except that people live in Sigmaron and that everything else in the realms has been savaged by chaos for a long time and all kingdoms there have been overthrown. The people who died were the lucky ones and the rest are slaves, slavers or forced to cannibalism by the khorne guys and made to join them.
The army selection in the scenarios is "choose an army. Then play this scenario." There's occasionally something like if you outnumber your opponent you have to be the attacker rather than the defender.
Has anyone got the big fluff book yet? I was expecting more leaks from it... I'm interested in the fluff of the Free Peoples and what the army selection for scenarios is like.
Quickly - we haven't seen the dwarfs other than a picture of the Fyreslayers (with red beards and hair rather than orange) and the elves are missing in the fluff. Tyrion and Malerion (malekith) are looking for them. No mentions of regular humans to speak of except that people live in Sigmaron and that everything else in the realms has been savaged by chaos for a long time and all kingdoms there have been overthrown. The people who died were the lucky ones and the rest are slaves, slavers or forced to cannibalism by the khorne guys and made to join them.
The army selection in the scenarios is "choose an army. Then play this scenario." There's occasionally something like if you outnumber your opponent you have to be the attacker rather than the defender.
I will add that there are eight scenarios in the book. Army selection is still 'chat about what you want to play'. But I think in all cases armies are decided before deployment begins.
The warscrolls are identical to what's available online (they are definitely keeping them all free).
In short:
- Fluff of where we're up to in this Age (imagery/presentation heavy)
- Eight new scenarios
- Rules for battles in two of the realms
- Warscrolls (none new; they will always be free online/in the app)
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has more pics of the other displays/warhammer world in general.
Really great links thanks! War hammer world is looking like it's worth the trip more and more.
Also from the artwork on the walls I think we can expect the Black Orruks to be the size of sigmarines, if not bulkier still!
Whatever anyone may think of GW and their choices, they make very pretty things (models, artwork).... Makes it very tempting even when the rules are completely un-interesting to me personally (note: personally!! not trying to start anything ), which is quite an accomplishment.
As a veteran greenskin collector the artwork reminds me a lot of the 1st edition Ork artwork ('Ere we go, Freebooterz) and the Ocs from Rackham, partly by from the same artist.
Not that i don't love these, i do.
I still find 1st edition Orks and Rackham Orcs the best ever.
But i hope GW gets it right AND makes something that is new.
But Alpharius, how can I look at myself in the mirror, or speak without shame to my future children if I don't win a wargaming debate on the internet?
Anyways, the photos are really cool. I'd almost be afraid to game on that table, it's so nice. And that print of the Judicators, it'd go great in the gaming boiler room. [url=https://flic.kr/p/v6BVgv]IMG_1442 by Jelle Goossens, on Flickr, on Flickr
So, I read on Naftka that GW is working on Age of Sigmar style Bretonnians. Usually, I don't bother with those guys, but this seems like a reasonable concept. I'd build such an army, **drools**.
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has more pics of the other displays/warhammer world in general.
Thank you for the pics! The dioramas are amazing, particularly like the Retributors flying out of the portal-gate. Maybe with other Warhammer starter sets there will be more dioramas? Another reason to visit Warhammer World.
3AcresAndATau wrote: But Alpharius, how can I look at myself in the mirror, or speak without shame to my future children if I don't win a wargaming debate on the internet?
Anyways, the photos are really cool. I'd almost be afraid to game on that table, it's so nice. And that print of the Judicators, it'd go great in the gaming boiler room. [url=https://flic.kr/p/v6BVgv]IMG_1442 by Jelle Goossens, on Flickr, on Flickr
So, I read on Naftka that GW is working on Age of Sigmar style Bretonnians. Usually, I don't bother with those guys, but this seems like a reasonable concept. I'd build such an army, **drools**.
Hmm.. Extra salty if it's from Natfka. Not really a reliable rumour-monger lol.
3AcresAndATau wrote: But Alpharius, how can I look at myself in the mirror, or speak without shame to my future children if I don't win a wargaming debate on the internet?
Anyways, the photos are really cool. I'd almost be afraid to game on that table, it's so nice. And that print of the Judicators, it'd go great in the gaming boiler room. [url=https://flic.kr/p/v6BVgv]IMG_1442 by Jelle Goossens, on Flickr, on Flickr
So, I read on Naftka that GW is working on Age of Sigmar style Bretonnians. Usually, I don't bother with those guys, but this seems like a reasonable concept. I'd build such an army, **drools**.
Hmm.. Extra salty if it's from Natfka. Not really a reliable rumour-monger lol.
Hah. I lost all faith in them after the promise of 10mm Epic didn't pan out. But New Brets sound so delightful, maybe we just need to tap into our ork powers.
Any rumors on whether GW plans to use its campaigns to make the setting really dynamic? Way I see it they could go full on "this changes the world" with the supplements, or comic book everything's different but it's also the same. Both of which serve a purpose.
I think GW is eventually gonna Sigmarify pretty much everything in time. They'll probably release a couple new models for an army, and then repackage old ones in lower quantities with higher per-model prices but give em round or oval bases.
Any rumors on whether GW plans to use its campaigns to make the setting really dynamic? Way I see it they could go full on "this changes the world" with the supplements, or comic book everything's different but it's also the same. Both of which serve a purpose.
they're claiming the AoS battles at warhammer world will "With unique scenarios, warzones and permanent consequences for our Warhammer Campaigns, this weekend is not to be missed! "
but even if true none of it will be quick (AoS seems to have been floating about beind the scenes since at least early 2013) so even if, for example, Chaos wins big don't expect anything new for a year or two (although it might just adjust the release order of stuff they've already got in the pipeline),
and don't expect any battles that promise to remove a faction (again even if Sigmar looses every single match over the next 2 years he's not going anywhere)
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I keep checking this thread in the hopes of seeing something new. GW's secrecy drives me nuts. I'm sure later in the week we'll see new stuff.
I'm still surprised GW doesn't have the big ticket giant monster kits ready to roll out for both sides.
At least Chaos has that new Bloodthirster kit to play with, or any of the other big End Times kit, but Sigmar sure needs his own Avatar to tower over the battlefield.
Poorly lit photos of my ever- growing collection of completely unrelated models!
Necros wrote: I think GW is eventually gonna Sigmarify pretty much everything in time. They'll probably release a couple new models for an army, and then repackage old ones in lower quantities with higher per-model prices but give em round or oval bases.
I think it's safe to assume that we'll see more sigmarines, then some khorne chaos, followed in the near term by aelfs and duardin.
Because when you look at all the pictures of models in the book they have undead, warriors, demons, seraphon (lizards), orcs+goblins, skaven, empire, ogres, - but no duardin, even though they are referred to in the fluff and no aelfs, as they are lost fluff-wise at the moment.
Brets we'll probably see as mounted sigmarines and who knows about beastmen. So the major races missing from the model photography are aelfs and dwarfs. (there's even mention of a mechanized flying army in Chamon (metal) which is where I think most of the duardin are.
Doesn't the newest White Dwarf teaser mention Destruction for next week?
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Eldarain wrote: Doesn't the newest White Dwarf teaser mention Destruction for next week?
It does, but no rumors about any new releases. Might just be showcasing Destruction models on round bases, and some lore tidbits about what they are up to in the Mortal Realms.
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It's amazing how the target audience for Warhammer smoothly and gradualy changed over the years from the "intelligent 18 years old" as defined by Bryan Ansell to a "7 years old with mum".
Not really, for me and my crowd it was always an immature fun game originally, around ten years old is the age quite a few of us were when we started out on GW stuff back in the 80s, lots of the jokes were pretty childish, and there was nothing else like it around at the time though, so its hard to compare really.
But really. What it was for you and your crowd is exactly irrelevant when it was in the guidelines for writers that the ideal reader was "intelligent 18 years old" and obviously a target for games and fluff is the same. I'll take gw guideline over your impression tbh heh. Also did you miss the stamp on Slaves to Darkness, what was it, "reccomended for mature readers"?
From the initial Age of Sigmar news thread, when its "feature" list was first confirmed:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck. But one made from two circus trains colliding.
A collosal, terrible, flaming, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spraying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.
Necros wrote: I think GW is eventually gonna Sigmarify pretty much everything in time. They'll probably release a couple new models for an army, and then repackage old ones in lower quantities with higher per-model prices but give em round or oval bases.
I think it's safe to assume that we'll see more sigmarines, then some khorne chaos, followed in the near term by aelfs and duardin.
Because when you look at all the pictures of models in the book they have undead, warriors, demons, seraphon (lizards), orcs+goblins, skaven, empire, ogres, - but no duardin, even though they are referred to in the fluff and no aelfs, as they are lost fluff-wise at the moment.
Brets we'll probably see as mounted sigmarines and who knows about beastmen. So the major races missing from the model photography are aelfs and dwarfs. (there's even mention of a mechanized flying army in Chamon (metal) which is where I think most of the duardin are.
That would be the most horrible thing ever. Chaos had an 8th edition book. Skaven's last book was in 7th edition and had no releases. Same goes for beastmen (7th) and bretonnia (6th i think). Elves and dwarfs have had a lot of attention before End Times and no i'm not going to count End Times releases for skaven as chaos got at least 2 releases for End Times, an 8th edition book and these khornate jack***es in Age of Sigmar as we see now.
Give skaven, beastmen and bretonnia a shot even if bretonnia has basically been written off by now. I mean jeez i think even greenskins deserve more limelight (heh they are green) than chaos warriors, dwarfs, empire, undead or elves.
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It's amazing how the target audience for Warhammer smoothly and gradualy changed over the years from the "intelligent 18 years old" as defined by Bryan Ansell to a "7 years old with mum".
Not really, for me and my crowd it was always an immature fun game originally, around ten years old is the age quite a few of us were when we started out on GW stuff back in the 80s, lots of the jokes were pretty childish, and there was nothing else like it around at the time though, so its hard to compare really.
But really. What it was for you and your crowd is exactly irrelevant when it was in the guidelines for writers that the ideal reader was "intelligent 18 years old" and obviously a target for games and fluff is the same. I'll take gw guideline over your impression tbh heh. Also did you miss the stamp on Slaves to Darkness, what was it, "reccomended for mature readers"?
Fair enough, i will agree to disagree, although to me its pretty obvious that they were aiming it at early teens as well as the older crowd.
It's amazing how the target audience for Warhammer smoothly and gradualy changed over the years from the "intelligent 18 years old" as defined by Bryan Ansell to a "7 years old with mum".
Not really, for me and my crowd it was always an immature fun game originally, around ten years old is the age quite a few of us were when we started out on GW stuff back in the 80s, lots of the jokes were pretty childish, and there was nothing else like it around at the time though, so its hard to compare really.
But really. What it was for you and your crowd is exactly irrelevant when it was in the guidelines for writers that the ideal reader was "intelligent 18 years old" and obviously a target for games and fluff is the same. I'll take gw guideline over your impression tbh heh. Also did you miss the stamp on Slaves to Darkness, what was it, "reccomended for mature readers"?
Ah, but as a counter point, surely a stamp recommending the book for "mature readers" would not be necessary if "mature readers" were the target market? The existence of that stamp shows that there was a very high likelihood of someone younger than "mature" gaining access to that book, and so it was considered necessary to warn them of the content.
In any case, what you want your target audience to be doesn't always match up with your actual target audience.
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It's amazing how the target audience for Warhammer smoothly and gradualy changed over the years from the "intelligent 18 years old" as defined by Bryan Ansell to a "7 years old with mum".
Not really, for me and my crowd it was always an immature fun game originally, around ten years old is the age quite a few of us were when we started out on GW stuff back in the 80s, lots of the jokes were pretty childish, and there was nothing else like it around at the time though, so its hard to compare really.
But really. What it was for you and your crowd is exactly irrelevant when it was in the guidelines for writers that the ideal reader was "intelligent 18 years old" and obviously a target for games and fluff is the same. I'll take gw guideline over your impression tbh heh. Also did you miss the stamp on Slaves to Darkness, what was it, "reccomended for mature readers"?
Ah, but as a counter point, surely a stamp recommending the book for "mature readers" would not be necessary if "mature readers" were the target market? The existence of that stamp shows that there was a very high likelihood of someone younger than "mature" gaining access to that book, and so it was considered necessary to warn them of the content.
In any case, what you want your target audience to be doesn't always match up with your actual target audience.
Target market for porn is adults and porn magazines carry the stamps, not sure what your point is. Every "adult" thing gets into kids hands on regular basis.
If you're about the wording, I think they wanted to avoid straight 18+ for the potential problems in shops and the same time have a cop out against some mother freaked out about her sweethart being satanic deviant after finding it in son's hands.
Anyway it was late teen/ adult stuff.
From the initial Age of Sigmar news thread, when its "feature" list was first confirmed:
Kid_Kyoto wrote:
It's like a train wreck. But one made from two circus trains colliding.
A collosal, terrible, flaming, hysterical train wreck with burning clowns running around spraying it with seltzer bottles while ring masters cry out how everything is fine and we should all come in while the dancing elephants lurch around leaving trails of blood behind them.
I only have the Fimir from Heroquest...............
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"By this point I'm convinced 100% that every single race in the 40k universe have somehow tapped into the ork ability to just have their tech work because they think it should."
Glaives and halberds. Currently those and the bow armed eternals are the only models not released for the stormcast. (yes winged dudes and hammer dudes arent in a multi part box but they are out technically)
We actually have a Prosecutor set that we haven't seen as well. The AOS book has some armed with shields and spears as well as what looks like a hero armed with a massive spear.
Necros wrote: I think GW is eventually gonna Sigmarify pretty much everything in time. They'll probably release a couple new models for an army, and then repackage old ones in lower quantities with higher per-model prices but give em round or oval bases.
I think it's safe to assume that we'll see more sigmarines, then some khorne chaos, followed in the near term by aelfs and duardin.
Because when you look at all the pictures of models in the book they have undead, warriors, demons, seraphon (lizards), orcs+goblins, skaven, empire, ogres, - but no duardin, even though they are referred to in the fluff and no aelfs, as they are lost fluff-wise at the moment.
Brets we'll probably see as mounted sigmarines and who knows about beastmen. So the major races missing from the model photography are aelfs and dwarfs. (there's even mention of a mechanized flying army in Chamon (metal) which is where I think most of the duardin are.
That would be the most horrible thing ever. Chaos had an 8th edition book. Skaven's last book was in 7th edition and had no releases. Same goes for beastmen (7th) and bretonnia (6th i think). Elves and dwarfs have had a lot of attention before End Times and no i'm not going to count End Times releases for skaven as chaos got at least 2 releases for End Times, an 8th edition book and these khornate jack***es in Age of Sigmar as we see now.
Give skaven, beastmen and bretonnia a shot even if bretonnia has basically been written off by now. I mean jeez i think even greenskins deserve more limelight (heh they are green) than chaos warriors, dwarfs, empire, undead or elves.
GW always pushes the armies that sell, Space Marines etc. Saying an army had a book in 8th is completely irrelevant. Look at the Marine and Eldar books for 40K. Both were less than 2 years old and they were still replaced. Why? Marines and Eldar are their top sellers.
), which is quite an accomplishment.
Maybe with other Warhammer starter sets there will be more dioramas? Another reason to visit Warhammer World.
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