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So, who is heading to atc this weekend, what are you taking, and where you coming from?

I'm fully expecting whomever on your team that plays eldar just steamrolling the competition with uncomped str d eldar with a war host featuring a windrider host and 5 auxiliary wraith knights to steamroll most lists. This is pretty much the list everyone feared when they read the eldar codex and this tournament is going to be a great litmus test on how broken uncomped eldar truly are.

Due to the nature of the format the WK spam will probably often get easy draws as most players will want to avoid it like the Black Plague.

gungo wrote:
I'm fully expecting whomever on your team that plays eldar just steamrolling the competition with uncomped str d eldar with a war host featuring a windrider host and 5 auxiliary wraith knights to steamroll most lists. This is pretty much the list everyone feared when they read the eldar codex and this tournament is going to be a great litmus test on how broken uncomped eldar truly are.

Yes Eldar are good. But let's look at this from another perspective. Everyone is going into this knowing how good Eldar are and have several lists ready to face them. I'll tell you now that my team doesn't fear the pointy eared bastards! And I will be there as always with my Nids.

Being brave.. going with Dark Eldar.

I don't think there are many lists that can handle four or more WK.

My centstar can handle them.

Cool - too bad you're not going this year. :(

 Dozer Blades wrote:
I don't think there are many lists that can handle four or more WK.

You can fit 5 wraith knights with a windrider host in a Warhost at 1850.
This makes the wraithknights even more manurveable and since the windrider host is full of warlocks and a farseer you will have plenty of psychic support for those Knights.

I can see flyer heavy armies giving them some issues such as jy2s list of the eldar doesn't take a lot of anti air support. But even swarm lists or drop grav lists will have issues with them. Eldar are the list to beat in Atc so congrats to any non eldar codex player that's able to do it. I'm sure many people will be watching ATC just to see how eldar fare.

Im heading to Chattanooga, TN from faraway Nashville, TN

 Dozer Blades wrote:
Cool - too bad you're not going this year. :(

Just a minor detail.

I will be there in spirit.

 Dozer Blades wrote:
I don't think there are many lists that can handle four or more WK.

Frankly I think that 4 WK is too unbalanced to do well in an ATC format. They won't be racking up kill points against non-vehicle armies and lack ObSec so I don't think can win progressive. Emperors Will and Control the center/relic I can see them winning, but they have too many little KPs from the Windrider host to be effective in my mind. Of course they can simply overwhelm lesser army lists but I can honestly think of several effective counters.

I think wk spam will finish in top 2-3 .

I am heading up from Atlanta and bringing nids. I have taken a look at a lot of the team lists and most teams have at least one list tailored to the WK spam. Surprisingly not every elder player went that route. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I think we will see the opposite problem at NOVA with them not allowing Knights or WK. It will be all wind rider spam and space marine spam with a few war convocations thrown in.

 Fishboy wrote:
I am heading up from Atlanta and bringing nids. I have taken a look at a lot of the team lists and most teams have at least one list tailored to the WK spam. Surprisingly not every elder player went that route. It will be interesting to see how this plays out. I think we will see the opposite problem at NOVA with them not allowing Knights or WK. It will be all wind rider spam and space marine spam with a few war convocations thrown in.

The bao allowed forgeworld and a single Superheavy and it was still windrider and battle company spam so I think your observation is correct.

Just from what I have read of the lists, there is still a LOT ofWK out there... And a lot of Grav!

Are you not coming this year? I did not see your team or your name on any of the lists.

 Fishboy wrote:
Are you not coming this year? I did not see your team or your name on any of the lists.

Not sure who this is aimed at, but I will be there! Jy2 will not though sadly, if that's who you're asking.

I shall be there from Smyrna, TN

Bringing the Silver Tide (crons)

I was curious where some of the older teams were. No quality co trol. No fluffy bunnies. No wrecking bols.

Blade and Bolter is back again.

calltoarms wrote:
I was curious where some of the older teams were. No quality co trol. No fluffy bunnies. No wrecking bols.

Unfortunately, the Fluffy Bunnies disbanded when 7th came out. Now we are scattered unto the 4 winds....

BTW, you can check out their (meaning mine) experiences here:


08/21/13 - Team Fluffy Bunnies Goes to the ATC - 2K Draigowing + Necrons

calltoarms wrote:
I was curious where some of the older teams were. No quality co trol. No fluffy bunnies. No wrecking bols.

The players from wrecking bols will all be there. Just split onto two teams now with I think team texas and forge the narrative being the distinction if not the team names.

Quality Control simply couldnt make it logistically work this year though we almost had a last minute change of heart this week. 3 out of the 5 of us fly out to Europe next week as part of Team USA to play in the ETC... so it was hard to coordinate the extra time off for ATC just a week ahead of that.

I'll be there, as one of the two (only 2?!) harlequins players in attendance. Driving down from Western New York tomorrow early morning.

Dude where are you from in NY? I have been trying to get DaBoyz back in but no luck.

I think the War Convocation and Centstar provide sufficient counters to WK spam. Of course, it's all about how the match-ups fall.

Good luck to everyone - hope everybody made it in safe to Chattanooga.

Lo there do I see my Father
Lo there, do I see my mother
and my sisters and my brothers.
Lo there do I see the line of my people, back to the beginning!
Lo they do call to me,
They bid me take my place among them.
In the Halls of Valhalla,
Where the brave may live FOREVER!!!!

Blade and Bolter!!!!

For old times sake, give em Hell, Boyz!

EXTREMELY disappointed in the dice down ruling that was sprung upon several people apparently. No mention in either tourney pack or faq of this uncommon ruling. So my opponent got an entire extra turn on me and I was not allowed to finish literally a 1 minute turn. Talked to several tourney vets and all have agreed that it's extremely poor form for a tourney to spring such a ruling on folks without any heads up in any of the tourney documents.

Doubtful I'll be returning...

I am not aware of this issue but I am glad to see people holding to times. Last year there were several teams that went way over time to get that last turn while 200 other people waited on them. I have been going to a lot of tournies over the last decade or so and I am glad to see a tournament where time means time. The time clock is on the wall over the judges table for reference so don't let your opponent bully you into a turn you can't finish.