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DorianGray wrote:

Warboss Gorhack wrote:
In some secondary sources the Tau certainly do involuntarily sterilize humans. The first Dawn of War game series certainly mentions mass sterilizations in one of the Tau campaign victory cutscenes.

Now, it's not done as a matter of race policy; it's done to 'humanely' control a particular human population, much in the way humans spay and neuter dogs and cats. Also, the source (Dawn of War) departs from canon in some well documented ways.

Dawn of War is NOT a reputable source - GW might strongly disagree with their made-up BS fluff. Video-games and boardgames CANNOT be used as real fluff. Only stuff from GW directly like books and codexes.

Yes it can. Because GW doesn't give a feth what DoW says, just as they don't care what a BL novel says compared to a Codex. A feth, GW has none of these to give about the "canonicity" of a licensed product.

I thought DOW came from GW too. Its not like the developers can take creative liberties.

Doesnt Vect, the most important character in DE fluff, die in the DoW series?

Moral of the story, DoW is not canon.

 Jollydevil wrote:
Doesnt Vect, the most important character in DE fluff, die in the DoW series?

Moral of the story, DoW is not canon.

He doesn't die, no, but since Vect is the single greatest badass alive in the 40k universe and the ending has him running away like a Guardsman, I also say not canon.

Games Workshop has never endorsed any BS fluff made up by video game companies in any way shape or form EVER. The black library novels published by GW are semi-more legitimate but a lot of authors take liberty in what they write. Ultimately the most reputable source is the codex.

I love how desperate Tau-haters are to reference video games to cite reason to hate fish-heads. Maybe they had their stupid MEQs blown away by firewarriors and riptides too many times.

It's like the Star Wars or the Star Trek expanded universe. It's complete BS. They're going to rewrite all of that with the new reboot and both series.

DorianGray wrote:
Games Workshop has never endorsed any BS fluff made up by video game companies in any way shape or form EVER. The black library novels published by GW are semi-more legitimate but a lot of authors take liberty in what they write. Ultimately the most reputable source is the codex.

I love how desperate Tau-haters are to reference video games to cite reason to hate fish-heads. Maybe they had their stupid MEQs blown away by firewarriors and riptides too many times.

It's like the Star Wars or the Star Trek expanded universe. It's complete BS. They're going to rewrite all of that with the new reboot and both series.

Tau are communist alien scumbags who take up territory belonging to the Imperium, and are a direct threat to humanity. If they expand, they enslave or destroy Mankind. They are literally a cancer of the Imperium, growing and destroying from the inside.

DorianGray wrote:
Games Workshop has never endorsed any BS fluff made up by video game companies in any way shape or form EVER. The black library novels published by GW are semi-more legitimate but a lot of authors take liberty in what they write. Ultimately the most reputable source is the codex.

I love how desperate Tau-haters are to reference video games to cite reason to hate fish-heads. Maybe they had their stupid MEQs blown away by firewarriors and riptides too many times.

It's like the Star Wars or the Star Trek expanded universe. It's complete BS. They're going to rewrite all of that with the new reboot and both series.

Except, you know, writing rules for the Blood Ravens.

 Psienesis wrote:


Except, you know, writing rules for the Blood Ravens.

... and if those rules were consistent with Dawn of War, they'd mostly consist of the Blood Ravens having a chance to steal wargear and vehicles from the enemy army before the game started.


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 Deadshot wrote:

Tau are communist alien scumbags who take up territory belonging to the Imperium, and are a direct threat to humanity. If they expand, they enslave or destroy Mankind. They are literally a cancer of the Imperium, growing and destroying from the inside.

On the contrary, the Tau are the greatest hope for humanity.

The Imperium is rotting from within. They are without vision and slowly being destroyed by their own incompetence and fear of technology. Human lives are wasted by the billions every day in unsafe working conditions and on the battlefield with obsolete and obsolescent gear.

Only the vision of the Tau Empire can lead humanity forward.

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:


Except, you know, writing rules for the Blood Ravens.

... and if those rules were consistent with Dawn of War, they'd mostly consist of the Blood Ravens having a chance to steal wargear and vehicles from the enemy army before the game started.


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 Deadshot wrote:

Tau are communist alien scumbags who take up territory belonging to the Imperium, and are a direct threat to humanity. If they expand, they enslave or destroy Mankind. They are literally a cancer of the Imperium, growing and destroying from the inside.

On the contrary, the Tau are the greatest hope for humanity.

The Imperium is rotting from within. They are without vision and slowly being destroyed by their own incompetence and fear of technology. Human lives are wasted by the billions every day in unsafe working conditions and on the battlefield with obsolete and obsolescent gear.

Only the vision of the Tau Empire can lead humanity forward.

Slavery and oppression by an inhuman, inferior species? Humanity is rightfully afraid of the dangers of technology. Many times humanity's own arrogance surrounding techbology has almost led to its downfall. Improper respect for such a dangerous tool is disastrous and will likewise lead to the Tau's downfall.
A life given in service of the Emperor, and the Imperium as a whole to secure the survival of the species from creatures' who's ambitions are beyond extinction, but literal, biblical damnation. The soulless Tau cannot understand such a concept. Every life given on the battlefield is one civilian who gets to live, and one life that is ultimately more valuable than any Xenos life in existance. Especially a Tau life, who's soulless existence renders them little more than base cattle. Insignificant in the greater scheme.
And ultimately, I will always stand by my own before I kneel for an inhuman master.

 Deadshot wrote:

Slavery and oppression by an inhuman, inferior species? Humanity is rightfully afraid of the dangers of technology. Many times humanity's own arrogance surrounding techbology has almost led to its downfall. Improper respect for such a dangerous tool is disastrous and will likewise lead to the Tau's downfall.
A life given in service of the Emperor, and the Imperium as a whole to secure the survival of the species from creatures' who's ambitions are beyond extinction, but literal, biblical damnation. The soulless Tau cannot understand such a concept. Every life given on the battlefield is one civilian who gets to live, and one life that is ultimately more valuable than any Xenos life in existance. Especially a Tau life, who's soulless existence renders them little more than base cattle. Insignificant in the greater scheme.
And ultimately, I will always stand by my own before I kneel for an inhuman master.

Slavery and oppression is the reality for the overwhelming majority of humans. The Tau, in comparison, offer a longer life with fewer dangers.

Humanity lost control of technology through incompetence. The Tau understand this to a degree humanity does not, as most humans do not serve the Greater Good.

Option : A
Remove the threat to Humans.

Not Temporarily, not half-way, do what must be done to a 100%.

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:


Except, you know, writing rules for the Blood Ravens.

... and if those rules were consistent with Dawn of War, they'd mostly consist of the Blood Ravens having a chance to steal wargear and vehicles from the enemy army before the game started.


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 Deadshot wrote:

Tau are communist alien scumbags who take up territory belonging to the Imperium, and are a direct threat to humanity. If they expand, they enslave or destroy Mankind. They are literally a cancer of the Imperium, growing and destroying from the inside.

On the contrary, the Tau are the greatest hope for humanity.

The Imperium is rotting from within. They are without vision and slowly being destroyed by their own incompetence and fear of technology. Human lives are wasted by the billions every day in unsafe working conditions and on the battlefield with obsolete and obsolescent gear.

Only the vision of the Tau Empire can lead humanity forward.

Let's assume the Tau wipe out/conquer the Imperium. What happens next? Abaddon smashes into the Tau empire like the fist of an angry god because the Tau are stupid and think ignoring Chaos magically makes it go away.

Sounds like some vision.

 urbanknight4 wrote:

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:


Except, you know, writing rules for the Blood Ravens.

... and if those rules were consistent with Dawn of War, they'd mostly consist of the Blood Ravens having a chance to steal wargear and vehicles from the enemy army before the game started.


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 Deadshot wrote:

Tau are communist alien scumbags who take up territory belonging to the Imperium, and are a direct threat to humanity. If they expand, they enslave or destroy Mankind. They are literally a cancer of the Imperium, growing and destroying from the inside.

On the contrary, the Tau are the greatest hope for humanity.

The Imperium is rotting from within. They are without vision and slowly being destroyed by their own incompetence and fear of technology. Human lives are wasted by the billions every day in unsafe working conditions and on the battlefield with obsolete and obsolescent gear.

Only the vision of the Tau Empire can lead humanity forward.

Let's assume the Tau wipe out/conquer the Imperium. What happens next? Abaddon smashes into the Tau empire like the fist of an angry god because the Tau are stupid and think ignoring Chaos magically makes it go away.

Sounds like some vision.

The Ethereals, wise in all things, will have prepared for this. It is not for us to know what plans they have, but to fulfill them.

Nevertheless, here are several options.

The first is that, when the Emperor is unplugged from the Throne and allowed to die, he will still continue to serve humanity- and thus, the Greater Good, in the Warp.

The second is that human devotion to the Greater Good will allow a god of it to be born. Both will end Abaddon's domination of the warp, giving the Tau advantages in the war. unlike humanity, the leadership of the Tau are largely immune to the corrupting influence of the Warp, preventing a disaster like the Horus Heresy from occurring and handing Chaos an easy victory.

The Tau may finish the work the Old Ones started with the Krork and destroy Chaos with the largest army that exists in 40k, now united in common purpose.

All are possible, and the Ethereals may have other, better options up their sleeves.

Of course whatever their plan actually is, it was all master-minded by the Eldar. Carefully assisting various armies, to get the galaxy right where they want them.

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 urbanknight4 wrote:

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:


Except, you know, writing rules for the Blood Ravens.

... and if those rules were consistent with Dawn of War, they'd mostly consist of the Blood Ravens having a chance to steal wargear and vehicles from the enemy army before the game started.


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 Deadshot wrote:

Tau are communist alien scumbags who take up territory belonging to the Imperium, and are a direct threat to humanity. If they expand, they enslave or destroy Mankind. They are literally a cancer of the Imperium, growing and destroying from the inside.

On the contrary, the Tau are the greatest hope for humanity.

The Imperium is rotting from within. They are without vision and slowly being destroyed by their own incompetence and fear of technology. Human lives are wasted by the billions every day in unsafe working conditions and on the battlefield with obsolete and obsolescent gear.

Only the vision of the Tau Empire can lead humanity forward.

Let's assume the Tau wipe out/conquer the Imperium. What happens next? Abaddon smashes into the Tau empire like the fist of an angry god because the Tau are stupid and think ignoring Chaos magically makes it go away.

Sounds like some vision.

The Ethereals, wise in all things, will have prepared for this. It is not for us to know what plans they have, but to fulfill them.

Nevertheless, here are several options.

The first is that, when the Emperor is unplugged from the Throne and allowed to die, he will still continue to serve humanity- and thus, the Greater Good, in the Warp.

The second is that human devotion to the Greater Good will allow a god of it to be born. Both will end Abaddon's domination of the warp, giving the Tau advantages in the war. unlike humanity, the leadership of the Tau are largely immune to the corrupting influence of the Warp, preventing a disaster like the Horus Heresy from occurring and handing Chaos an easy victory.

The Tau may finish the work the Old Ones started with the Krork and destroy Chaos with the largest army that exists in 40k, now united in common purpose.

All are possible, and the Ethereals may have other, better options up their sleeves.

And after its all over, the Ethereals and Tau will declare the extermination or imprisonment of all non-Tau, including humans. The Tau already treat humans as fifth class citizens when they help out. What do you think would happen once we're unnecessary.
And to reaffirm, I will always stand by my own before I stand with the enemy.

Instead of exterminating xenos use them as another fighting force, similar to how some Abhumans are utilized. They will kill some of the enemy who will in turn kill some of them.
Two problems are solved for the price of one. When the xenos survivors are no longer useful at the time we can kill them and get more where needed. Repeat process as needed.




Orks: Leak information about a world ready for war which in reality has been targeted by Tyranid hive fleets. Two hordes fight it out, weaken each other then Humanity kills what's left.

Eldar: Just leave them alone. They might see some good for them in this and will save Human lives.

Necrons: Upon finding a Tomb use captured Orks to make a population for fighting them. Or use above solution.

Tau: Make nice with them and have them fight our enemies for us. Make up some story about why they should do this. Consider redirecting prison transports to Tau controlled world
and let fate decide how things play out. Also load person currently in prison to aid in this.

Dark Eldar: They like to hurt things. Round them up and drop them on an enemy world with no means of escape. They might enjoy it.

Tyranids: Use whichever previously mentioned solution works best.

 WarAngel wrote:
Orks: Leak information about a world ready for war which in reality has been targeted by Tyranid hive fleets. Two hordes fight it out, weaken each other then Humanity kills what's left.

An Inquisitor has already tried this. It backfired spectacularly as that war continues to escalate and whoever wins will be far stronger than before.

 Deadshot wrote:


And after its all over, the Ethereals and Tau will declare the extermination or imprisonment of all non-Tau, including humans. The Tau already treat humans as fifth class citizens when they help out. What do you think would happen once we're unnecessary.
And to reaffirm, I will always stand by my own before I stand with the enemy.

The Tau value human life pointedly more than the Imperium does. During the Taros campaign, humans were used primarily to guard the rear while the Fire Caste did the heavy fighting. They were equipped with the Tau's superior infantry weapon technology instead of the flashlights favored by the Imperium.

You stand by tyranny. You stand by moral monsters who think of you only as the most expendable resource imaginable.

The Tau see you as something more.

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 urbanknight4 wrote:

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 Psienesis wrote:


Except, you know, writing rules for the Blood Ravens.

... and if those rules were consistent with Dawn of War, they'd mostly consist of the Blood Ravens having a chance to steal wargear and vehicles from the enemy army before the game started.


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 Deadshot wrote:

Tau are communist alien scumbags who take up territory belonging to the Imperium, and are a direct threat to humanity. If they expand, they enslave or destroy Mankind. They are literally a cancer of the Imperium, growing and destroying from the inside.

On the contrary, the Tau are the greatest hope for humanity.

The Imperium is rotting from within. They are without vision and slowly being destroyed by their own incompetence and fear of technology. Human lives are wasted by the billions every day in unsafe working conditions and on the battlefield with obsolete and obsolescent gear.

Only the vision of the Tau Empire can lead humanity forward.

Let's assume the Tau wipe out/conquer the Imperium. What happens next? Abaddon smashes into the Tau empire like the fist of an angry god because the Tau are stupid and think ignoring Chaos magically makes it go away.

Sounds like some vision.

The Ethereals, wise in all things, will have prepared for this. It is not for us to know what plans they have, but to fulfill them.

Nevertheless, here are several options.

The first is that, when the Emperor is unplugged from the Throne and allowed to die, he will still continue to serve humanity- and thus, the Greater Good, in the Warp.

The second is that human devotion to the Greater Good will allow a god of it to be born. Both will end Abaddon's domination of the warp, giving the Tau advantages in the war. unlike humanity, the leadership of the Tau are largely immune to the corrupting influence of the Warp, preventing a disaster like the Horus Heresy from occurring and handing Chaos an easy victory.

The Tau may finish the work the Old Ones started with the Krork and destroy Chaos with the largest army that exists in 40k, now united in common purpose.

All are possible, and the Ethereals may have other, better options up their sleeves.

1."The Ethereals, wise in all things, will have prepared for this. It is not for us to know what plans they have, but to fulfill them"

Translation: I have no idea what's going on and oh God I hope my Communist hypno-masters have a plan. Which they don't, because we've established that those space cows don't recognize Chaos as a threat. They have no idea what it's like to have a psycher nuke a city, they don't give a feth.

2. I wonder if you understand what life support even means. The Emperor isn't there because it's an orgasmic experience, he's there because if he croaks, mankind dies as well... along with most of the galaxy, because Chaos doesn't play around. There's a reason nobody has yet unplugged him. There are theories that he'll return in a new body, ascend to godhood, or maybe even regenerate somehow. The key word there is theory. Don't pretend that you, a xeno scum, know better than righteous devotees. Nobody knows jack, that's why nothings been done.

3. Human devotion of the Greater Good? I'm sorry, I nearly burst my appendix laughing. You think your puny empire can marshal enough faith and devotion to spawn a god, assuming that's how gods are even made? Hilarious. The entire Imperium of Man is a fanatical cult that worships the Allfather, and nothing has spawned. We're talking about trillions upon trillions of humans worshipping, praying, loving the Emperor and all he stands for, and yet nothing has happened. Your empire cannot even begin to comprehend how big we are, but you want to do better?

4. If the Ethereals have better plans, why not list them instead of this mockery? Actually, that's an insult to good mockeries everywhere. Those plans could only have been conceived by a heretic. Your leadership is sitting on their hands like their regal behinds are scared of the sun, and yet you fail to see the largest army the galaxy has ever seen knocking on Cadia. We can barely handle them, and we live for sacrifice and war. The Tau will be crushed like a fat caterpillar.

Also. You people have no idea how to handle psychers because you don't have any. Its cool if your population is exclusively Tau or Kroot or whatever other muppets you've recruited, but mankind is different. See, man knows man best. When you take over a world and try to spread your communism, you may succeed. Your heresy may make the world flourish. Your technology may beat us back. But you don't watch for the enemy within. You don't know what a heretic is. The Chaos cultist. The rogue psycher. The traitor.

When you take over a human world, populate it and make it flourish, only to have it die a bitter death either by psycher activity or a Chaos incursion, you'll remember the Emperor. And as your Empire lays dying as the smoke of demon fire dances around your bones, you'll regret the day you refused us. We don't sacrifice for nothing. We sacrifice to keep the enemy at bay.

 urbanknight4 wrote:

1."The Ethereals, wise in all things, will have prepared for this. It is not for us to know what plans they have, but to fulfill them"

Translation: I have no idea what's going on and oh God I hope my Communist hypno-masters have a plan. Which they don't, because we've established that those space cows don't recognize Chaos as a threat. They have no idea what it's like to have a psycher nuke a city, they don't give a feth.

2. I wonder if you understand what life support even means. The Emperor isn't there because it's an orgasmic experience, he's there because if he croaks, mankind dies as well... along with most of the galaxy, because Chaos doesn't play around. There's a reason nobody has yet unplugged him. There are theories that he'll return in a new body, ascend to godhood, or maybe even regenerate somehow. The key word there is theory. Don't pretend that you, a xeno scum, know better than righteous devotees. Nobody knows jack, that's why nothings been done.

3. Human devotion of the Greater Good? I'm sorry, I nearly burst my appendix laughing. You think your puny empire can marshal enough faith and devotion to spawn a god, assuming that's how gods are even made? Hilarious. The entire Imperium of Man is a fanatical cult that worships the Allfather, and nothing has spawned. We're talking about trillions upon trillions of humans worshipping, praying, loving the Emperor and all he stands for, and yet nothing has happened. Your empire cannot even begin to comprehend how big we are, but you want to do better?

4. If the Ethereals have better plans, why not list them instead of this mockery? Actually, that's an insult to good mockeries everywhere. Those plans could only have been conceived by a heretic. Your leadership is sitting on their hands like their regal behinds are scared of the sun, and yet you fail to see the largest army the galaxy has ever seen knocking on Cadia. We can barely handle them, and we live for sacrifice and war. The Tau will be crushed like a fat caterpillar.

Also. You people have no idea how to handle psychers because you don't have any. Its cool if your population is exclusively Tau or Kroot or whatever other muppets you've recruited, but mankind is different. See, man knows man best. When you take over a world and try to spread your communism, you may succeed. Your heresy may make the world flourish. Your technology may beat us back. But you don't watch for the enemy within. You don't know what a heretic is. The Chaos cultist. The rogue psycher. The traitor.

When you take over a human world, populate it and make it flourish, only to have it die a bitter death either by psycher activity or a Chaos incursion, you'll remember the Emperor. And as your Empire lays dying as the smoke of demon fire dances around your bones, you'll regret the day you refused us. We don't sacrifice for nothing. We sacrifice to keep the enemy at bay.

1. Since popular theory holds the Tau were created by Harlequinns, the Tau actually understand the threat of Chaos better than humanity does. Suck it.

2. If the Emperor dies off of life support and that's it, the technology of the Tau is humanity's only hope, because in their current state they're losing to Chaos.

3. Nothing has spawned because he lives. Prayers to him empower a corpse, with all of its corpse limitations. Also, the success the Tau have had in converting human worlds proves that most humans couldn't give two gaks about your Emperor compared to having a drone to harvest the crops and a gun to defend their land that's more powerful than a flashlight.

4. Your Imperium would rather be crushed than ask for help from xenos. Don't blame us for your inevitable failure when you demonize us more than your Chaos.

We have psyker races we have hidden from humanity for some time.

 Jollydevil wrote:
Doesnt Vect, the most important character in DE fluff, die in the DoW series?

Moral of the story, DoW is not canon.

Dark Elves of wealth and stature have cloning/resurrection insurance. Vect could die a thousand times, that doesn't mean it's a career-ending injury.

I thought DOW came from GW too. Its not like the developers can take creative liberties.

Not at all. Licensed to Relic Entertainment, under THQ. I believe Sega holds the rights to it now since THQ went bankrupt and sold all their IP off.

DorianGray wrote:
Games Workshop has never endorsed any BS fluff made up by video game companies in any way shape or form EVER. The black library novels published by GW are semi-more legitimate but a lot of authors take liberty in what they write. Ultimately the most reputable source is the codex.

I love how desperate Tau-haters are to reference video games to cite reason to hate fish-heads. Maybe they had their stupid MEQs blown away by firewarriors and riptides too many times.

It's like the Star Wars or the Star Trek expanded universe. It's complete BS. They're going to rewrite all of that with the new reboot and both series.

Except GW itself has stated that everything is canon, and the authors consider the Horus Heresy books to be "how it really happened" with other material on the HH being myths. So in short, you're the one spouting the bs, not the black library.

Also the expanded universe in Star Wars was perfectly canon till the Disney retcon. Now however all new approved media is equal canon with the movies- there's no longer tiers. New comics, books, and shows are just as canon as the movies are.

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:


And after its all over, the Ethereals and Tau will declare the extermination or imprisonment of all non-Tau, including humans. The Tau already treat humans as fifth class citizens when they help out. What do you think would happen once we're unnecessary.
And to reaffirm, I will always stand by my own before I stand with the enemy.

The Tau value human life pointedly more than the Imperium does. During the Taros campaign, humans were used primarily to guard the rear while the Fire Caste did the heavy fighting. They were equipped with the Tau's superior infantry weapon technology instead of the flashlights favored by the Imperium.

You stand by tyranny. You stand by moral monsters who think of you only as the most expendable resource imaginable.

The Tau see you as something more.

Yes, they see us as cannon fodder. The Tau treat other races as lesser beings time and time again. The Taros campaign example you use is irrelavant. As such a vital campaign, they would be stupid to believe that such "second class" citizens can handle the task, not unlike the Imperium doesn't use Abhumans for their bulk work.
The Tau are incredibly naive about the greater threats of the Galaxy. They were unable to defeat a small Tyranid fleet. They have no concept of the danger of Chaos or the Necrons. Submission to the Tau would fracture the military dominance of the Imperium and ultimately lead both factions open to the threats of Chaos and more importantly, the Tyranids.
The Imperium trades human lives for the ultimate greater good, because human life is the only resource they have. For the individual, this is bad. But for the survival of the race, and the galaxy as a whole, its vital. You commie fishheads should understand that. No life given in service of the Emperor is given in vain.
Nor does it only serve the Imperium. Those lives given also save the lives of the Tau and Eldar by the dozen, by holding back the threats of Chaos and Tyranids, as well as Orks and Necrons.

 Deadshot wrote:


Yes, they see us as cannon fodder. The Tau treat other races as lesser beings time and time again. The Taros campaign example you use is irrelavant. As such a vital campaign, they would be stupid to believe that such "second class" citizens can handle the task, not unlike the Imperium doesn't use Abhumans for their bulk work.

The Imperium uses abhumans like ratlings and ogruns as cannon fodder all of the time.

 EmpNortonII wrote:

 Deadshot wrote:


Yes, they see us as cannon fodder. The Tau treat other races as lesser beings time and time again. The Taros campaign example you use is irrelavant. As such a vital campaign, they would be stupid to believe that such "second class" citizens can handle the task, not unlike the Imperium doesn't use Abhumans for their bulk work.

The Imperium uses abhumans like ratlings and ogruns as cannon fodder all of the time.

So? They aren't human, they're practically Xenos. They should be honoured to serve as they do.

OK, for all you Tau symapthisers, here's a little linguistic trick.

The Tau word for humans under the rule of the Tau empire is "Gue'vesa".

This is a combination of the Tau word for alien, 'Gue' and the suffix 'vesa'.

A non-subjugated alien is a 'Gue'la' or 'least-ranked alien'.

The 'vesa' suffix is only found in one other group in the Tau empire.

Drones. A Gun Drone is a 'Shas'vesa'.

Humans in the Tau Empire have the same ranking as nonsapient artificial intelligences.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
OK, for all you Tau symapthisers, here's a little linguistic trick.

The Tau word for humans under the rule of the Tau empire is "Gue'vesa".

This is a combination of the Tau word for alien, 'Gue' and the suffix 'vesa'.

A non-subjugated alien is a 'Gue'la' or 'least-ranked alien'.

The 'vesa' suffix is only found in one other group in the Tau empire.

Drones. A Gun Drone is a 'Shas'vesa'.

Humans in the Tau Empire have the same ranking as nonsapient artificial intelligences.

Most humans have not been integrated into the Tau Empire yet.

I think what you are noticing is that there is no specific Tau word for human yet. Don't worry, I am sure the Ethereals will add a word to the language for you as you become more important within the Empire.

... and as we have already pointed out, drones are treated better by the Tau than most humans are treated by the Imperium.

No, 'vesa is a rank/role appellation, not a species appelation (Which would be before the apostrophe, eg gue', shas', kor').

When humans gain a specific word in Tau that describes them, it will go at the start of their name, for example if the Tau word for human became Jel, they would be Jel'vesa, broken into five ranks - Jel'la, Jel'ui, Jel'vre, Jel'el and Jel'o.

Gue'vesa is a rank. "alien/drone" in closest literal translation. "foreigner/disposable buzzing thing" in abstract.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
No, 'vesa is a rank/role appellation, not a species appelation (Which would be before the apostrophe, eg gue', shas', kor').

When humans gain a specific word in Tau that describes them, it will go at the start of their name, for example if the Tau word for human became Jel, they would be Jel'vesa, broken into five ranks - Jel'la, Jel'ui, Jel'vre, Jel'el and Jel'o.

Gue'vesa is a rank. "alien/drone" in closest literal translation. "foreigner/disposable buzzing thing" in abstract.

Besides, we've been fighting them ever since they got spacefaring capabilities. How do they not have a word for us yet? That'd be like humans failing to name the Eldar because they haven't been integrated yet.

I honestly don't mind the Tau... as long as they don't pull their Greater Good bull with the Imperium. We have bigger problems to deal with, like the Chaos swarms that the Tau steadily both ignore and have no contingencies for.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
No, 'vesa is a rank/role appellation, not a species appelation (Which would be before the apostrophe, eg gue', shas', kor').

When humans gain a specific word in Tau that describes them, it will go at the start of their name, for example if the Tau word for human became Jel, they would be Jel'vesa, broken into five ranks - Jel'la, Jel'ui, Jel'vre, Jel'el and Jel'o.

Gue'vesa is a rank. "alien/drone" in closest literal translation. "foreigner/disposable buzzing thing" in abstract.

Not always, and not really. For example, the word for the Vespid is Mal'kor (bugs of the air, roughly).

Rank, when appropriate, is added after. A human soldier is gue'vesa'la, and a human sergeant gue'vesa'ui.