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 gorgon wrote:
Weren't people wondering early last year what was wrong with the Seahawks, though?

Granted, they were better then than what they've shown this season, but they're too talented to count out, especially in a year with so much mediocrity going on.

There's lots of football left to be played. And what seems to be absolute truth in week 7 won't necessarily be the case in week 17.

is spot on!

We're 'only' in Week 7 right?

Looooong way to go still!

 Alpharius wrote:
This:

 gorgon wrote:
Weren't people wondering early last year what was wrong with the Seahawks, though?

Granted, they were better then than what they've shown this season, but they're too talented to count out, especially in a year with so much mediocrity going on.

There's lots of football left to be played. And what seems to be absolute truth in week 7 won't necessarily be the case in week 17.

is spot on!

We're 'only' in Week 7 right?

Looooong way to go still!

Especially since "we" have the 9ers on Thursday, which means we ought to be heading back in the right direction

 trexmeyer wrote:
Green Bay might be undefeated, but they look really poor to me. Especially the last two games. Rodgers needs to get it together.

Lolwut?

He's got a 15-2 td-int ratio, a 115 passer rating, is completing nearly 70% of his passes, and is doing it without two of his intended starters.

 Alpharius wrote:
This:

 gorgon wrote:
Weren't people wondering early last year what was wrong with the Seahawks, though?

Granted, they were better then than what they've shown this season, but they're too talented to count out, especially in a year with so much mediocrity going on.

There's lots of football left to be played. And what seems to be absolute truth in week 7 won't necessarily be the case in week 17.

is spot on!

We're 'only' in Week 7 right?

Looooong way to go still!

Just a few years ago the Ravens LIMPED into the playoffs (they really struggled down the stretch, look it up) and won the whole thing. You don't even have to go in on a hot streak anymore.

And look at the league this year. The Pats seem to be the best team, but we've seen more loaded Pats teams get upset. And more than ever, it's any given Sunday in the NFL. Even if your team is struggling some right now, if you think it's got talent...it's probably unwise to count them out.

Cripes, in 1995 the Steelers were 3-4, then went 8-1 down the stretch and made it to the SB. In 2005, they were 7-5 and then never lost again. All NFL seasons have twists and turns, some of them major.

I have to wonder.... Does Russel Wilson underperform everywhere or just on the football field?

What does that even mean?

Did he steal your girlfriend or something?

 helgrenze wrote:
I have to wonder.... Does Russel Wilson underperform everywhere or just on the football field?

Well, if you believe him and Ciara's public statements, There's a mutual agreement to simply not perform elsewhere

Ravens lost again, and I'm so happy.

Harbaugh getting called on the illegal formation is just desserts for him bitching about the Pats last year.

But his wasnt illegal...the refs are blind and dont communicate.

Replay clearly showed the tackle making the indication that he was eligible...right at the ref who was about 15 feet away and looking at him.

Texans looked really, really bad on Sunday.

 TheMeanDM wrote:
But his wasnt illegal...the refs are blind and dont communicate.

Replay clearly showed the tackle making the indication that he was eligible...right at the ref who was about 15 feet away and looking at him.

Hard to believe the Ravens are now 1-6!

Tanking, perhaps?

I don't really believe that, BTW. NFL squads have too many guys who want to win, are playing for contracts, etc.

If anyone on the Texans was tanking, JJ Watt would kick their ass.

Also, we just cut our gakky QB that missed the fething team plane (How? How does that happen?), so we're stuck with another gakky QB.

 gorgon wrote:
Tanking, perhaps?

I don't really believe that, BTW. NFL squads have too many guys who want to win, are playing for contracts, etc.

While I generally agree with that I think it is almost undeniable that the Colts were tanking it during the infamous "Suck for Luck" 'campaign'...

 Alpharius wrote:

 gorgon wrote:
Tanking, perhaps?

I don't really believe that, BTW. NFL squads have too many guys who want to win, are playing for contracts, etc.

While I generally agree with that I think it is almost undeniable that the Colts were tanking it during the infamous "Suck for Luck" 'campaign'...

Manning followed by Luck, and Farve followed by Rogers.

That gak doesn't just happen!

Looking at you, Carr and Schaub!

 kronk wrote:

Manning followed by Luck, and Farve followed by Rogers.

That gak doesn't just happen!

Looking at you, Carr and Schaub!

The only real difference there though, is that Rodgers had, IIRC, 2 or 3 seasons behind Favre before being let go. Majority of teams aren't nearly so lucky.

We certainly weren't!

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Manning followed by Luck, and Farve followed by Rogers.

That gak doesn't just happen!

Looking at you, Carr and Schaub!

The only real difference there though, is that Rodgers had, IIRC, 2 or 3 seasons behind Favre before being let go. Majority of teams aren't nearly so lucky.

Rodgers was also a late first round pick. The Packers did the opposite of tanking that season.

MY POINT was that teams aren't supposed to have 2 good QB's in a row. That's selfish!

See also: Joe Montana - Steve Young.

 kronk wrote:
MY POINT was that teams aren't supposed to have 2 good QB's in a row. That's selfish!

See also: Joe Montana - Steve Young.

The Steelers went 22 years between Bradshaw and Roethlisberger. And not coincidentally never won a SB in between those two, despite fielding some very strong teams.

Long term, I don't think the NFL is on a good trend here. Their rules changes have strongly favored teams with elite passers, but the college ranks aren't producing pro-style passers like they used to. Now you have to project whether a guy who never took a snap under center and barely ever had to look past his primary receiver can translate to a pro-style passing game. So QBs bust more than ever.

Where's the next group of great passers coming up? Andrew Luck (who is a little overrated, but I still put him here)...and...? You have guys like Bortles and Carr who show signs, but it's too early to tell. Brady says he wants to play another 10 years, and at this point he almost could. Other than Manning falling apart since last season, the list of the best passers hasn't really changed in years.

And while we can expect some aspects of college offenses to become part of NFL playbooks, I'm not sure that they'll take over. The athletes on defense are too good in the NFL, and run-first QBs are catastrophic injuries waiting to happen. The NFL still needs pro-style QBs...there are just fewer and fewer of them.

 gorgon wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Manning followed by Luck, and Farve followed by Rogers.

That gak doesn't just happen!

Looking at you, Carr and Schaub!

The only real difference there though, is that Rodgers had, IIRC, 2 or 3 seasons behind Favre before being let go. Majority of teams aren't nearly so lucky.

Rodgers was also a late first round pick. The Packers did the opposite of tanking that season.

Number 22 overall or whatever Rodgers was drafted is considered late round pick now?

Edit: 24 overall, I guess that is late in the round. I think of rounds 4-7 as later round picks, maybe that's just me. It looks like your point stands!

Chancetragedy wrote:

 gorgon wrote:

 Ensis Ferrae wrote:

 kronk wrote:

Manning followed by Luck, and Farve followed by Rogers.

That gak doesn't just happen!

Looking at you, Carr and Schaub!

The only real difference there though, is that Rodgers had, IIRC, 2 or 3 seasons behind Favre before being let go. Majority of teams aren't nearly so lucky.

Rodgers was also a late first round pick. The Packers did the opposite of tanking that season.

Number 22 overall or whatever Rodgers was drafted is considered late round pick now?

Late FIRST round pick. I think you missed a word, there.

You could argue that the bears haven't had a great qb since sid luckman. Though I would call Mcmahon and Cutler good

Haha yah I was editing my post, definitely missed the "first"...

Yeah, honestly, I think most franchises DREAM of being able to do what Green Bay did with Favre to Rodgers.

Look at the Dolphins after Marino. I'm sure San Diego is kind of kicking themselves for deciding on Rivers over Brees, though not entirely.


And yeah, the NFL's rule changes that heavily favor offenses will eventually wear thin on fans. It will wear on many players as well, especially defensive ones who basically aren't "allowed" to play football any more.

 TheMeanDM wrote:
But his wasnt illegal...the refs are blind and dont communicate.

Replay clearly showed the tackle making the indication that he was eligible...right at the ref who was about 15 feet away and looking at him.

Yeah I saw the replay where the player indicates he was going to be eligible.

But the fact that Harbaugh complained and complained about that play when the Patriots used it, complained to the point of having the rule changed, then ended up stealing the idea in the end - that's why I find it just desserts that even though it was a legal play they got flagged.

FFL: Seems my last place standing comes at a high price ... for my opponents. I have the highest 'points against' stat. The average needed to beat me is currently 125+.
So, Does Mean Machine have what it takes to continue his win streak?

Holy Hell.

Brees puts up unreal numbers.

Denver man-handles Green Bay.

About a dozen HUGE, season-impacting injuries yesterday. Crazy football afternoon.

And it would seem, to top it off that a certain Cowboys player is in the news for the wrong reasons for allegedly talking ill of an injured player from another team

Red hot Ravens tearing it up with a 1 game win streak!