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 Freakazoitt wrote:
I don't like when someone judges others. but now I can't keep.

It is obvious that the USA now the most evil country (for others).

Evil Empire as the Rome was for everyone who refuse to be enslaved.
now there is nobody who so widely uses violence for the purposes
Аnd the country was such earlier - it killed 100000000 native indians and never consider it as crime. "Good indian - dead indian". Something like nazi's slogan isn't it?
WW1, WW2 - it everything sources of the income for the USA. Favorable business.
The American agents financed revolution 1917 in Russia. Then they financed Trotsky. In total for introduction of chaos. in the same way, as they do it today.

Panama, Costa-Rika, Gonduras, Guatemala, Turkey, China, Nikaragua, Salvador, Yougoslavia, Greece, Philipines, Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Laos, Gaiti, Dominican, Irac, Brazil, Bolivia, Chilie, Uruguai, Central Africa, Cambodia, Zambia, Grenada, Libia, Columbia - everywhere America does revolutions, prepares acts of terrorism, interferes, finances dictators and destroys stability.

USA sponsored an prepeared Georgia to invade South Ossetia.
It sposored 2004 Ukraine crysis. It resposible for 2014 events in Ukraine,

There is no justification to all this, but USA own interests.

They even don't have proves, that Bin Laden resposible for 9/11. Note, that Bin Laden was prepeared by USA in 1980s.
Anybody of you knows all details how it was prepared 9/11? no

Ok, lets be fair here. The US has done lots of gakky things. A lot. But the US could also be a lot worse, particularly next to the acts of many other nations. A lot of the above list is true, but a lot of it is pure fantasy (really, the US killed a hundred million native americans...where on earth are you getting that number? Really, the US was behind the 1917 revolution? Methinks the Germans were the foreign power to blame for that, the US invaded Vladivostok in an attempt to stop the Bolsheviks...), and a lot of other nations have been a lot worse.

Every major world power has done stupid, inexcusable gak. The US absolutely has. The UK absolutely has. Even little ol' Belgium has some extremely uncomfortable history. Russia certainly isn't blameless either, lets not forget the role of Russia/USSR in like half the countries from the list above (China, Vietnam, Korea, etc) or their rather awkward history in Poland, Bulgaria, Romania, Latvia, Lithuania, Estonia, Finland, Czechoslovakia, Hungary, etc

Trying to portray the US as the "great evil" is somewhat absurd. Has the US done gakky things, and continue to do them? Absolutely. Is is responsible for every evil in the world ? No. Is it the only nation to do gakky things? No. As far as world-dominating empires go, the US is relatively benign next to most other Empires, certainly next to the British or Roman empire's at their heights. Does that mean it doesn't do terrible things that are absolutely reprehensible and deserving of condemnation? No it doesn't. But it's certainly not the great singular source of evil in the world, particularly when the US is the largest source of food & medical aid, medical and technological research, etc on the planet that has saved and extended more lives than any other nation in history.

 Freakazoitt wrote:
An all many wars USA was participated, everywhere USA was attacker (except of Pearl Harbor / Japan). But even Pearl Harbour wasn't real US territory that time (Hawai was occupied).
I understand that could exaggerate a little in the previous post, but the fact - America always an aggressor (except Pearl Harbour)
And I didn't learn who and why blew up towers 9/11 nobody offered any exact explanations. though the event was shocking, as a doomsday
But it tured to be doomsday for others, not for USA

The US was the aggressor in Korea? Methinks not, given that the North Koreans were the ones that launched that conflict and major US forces didn't arrive until South Korea had been almost totally defeated.. The US was the aggressor in WW1? Methinks not coming in three years late (I don't even think you could point to a singular aggressor there). The US was the aggressor in the 1991 Gulf conflict? Methinks not, when Iraqi forces were the ones that invaded Kuwait.

Yes, the US has been the aggressor in many instances, but nowhere near all, and not really any moreso than most other major world powers.

(really, the US killed a hundred million native americans...where on earth are you getting that number?

I counted them

Really, the US was behind the 1917 revolution?

No, but they add fuel to the fire

. Russia certainly isn't blameless either, lets not forget the role of Russia/USSR in like half the countries from the list above

Of course not blameless. But it acted to defend agaist USA imperialistic actions. Sometimes it was necessary to do different things as support of Arabs instead of Israel. Oh acting as a home-assaulter in Afghanistan. But I wonder how americans proud of all they did or just ignore.

Is is responsible for every evil in the world ? No.

No. But who is more "evil"? Russia, which is only protected themself to survive many years? North Korea, which doesn't need real war, and the situation "as is" is ok for them. Iran, which was slandered? Nazi Germany, which no more?

There weren't even that many Native Americans when the US was founded. Most of them died when diseases spread by the Spanish wiped them out a few centuries earlier.

We'll have the Death Star pretty too, so long as Obama starts listening to the will of the people!

Freakazoitt wrote:I don't like when someone judges others. but now I can't keep.

It is obvious that the USA now the most evil country (for others).

Evil Empire as the Rome was for everyone who refuse to be enslaved.
now there is nobody who so widely uses violence for the purposes
Аnd the country was such earlier - it killed 100000000 native indians and never consider it as crime. "Good indian - dead indian". Something like nazi's slogan isn't it?
WW1, WW2 - it everything sources of the income for the USA. Favorable business.
The American agents financed revolution 1917 in Russia. Then they financed Trotsky. In total for introduction of chaos. in the same way, as they do it today.

Panama, Costa-Rika, Gonduras, Guatemala, Turkey, China, Nikaragua, Salvador, Yougoslavia, Greece, Philipines, Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Laos, Gaiti, Dominican, Irac, Brazil, Bolivia, Chilie, Uruguai, Central Africa, Cambodia, Zambia, Grenada, Libia, Columbia - everywhere America does revolutions, prepares acts of terrorism, interferes, finances dictators and destroys stability.

USA sponsored an prepeared Georgia to invade South Ossetia.
It sposored 2004 Ukraine crysis. It resposible for 2014 events in Ukraine,

Well it's not like we can sieze emergencey powers with out a senate or world government to sieze them from. Clearly we orchestrated all global chaos to facilitate the founding of a global government and congress were we could secure special privelages and increase our political power so that we might gain enough power and military backing to deploy storm troopers on every continent and purge the jedi scum hiding in the Eurasian land mass specifically.

There is no justification to all this, but USA own interests.

well lets be honest if we're an empire comparable to (or greater than) rome do we will need any other justification. Personally I think once we complete the death star we know congress and the pentagon are building (They said no, but we all heard yes.) I really think the appropriate question the world should be asking is not "Is the US justified in this?" but instead "How might we appease our new overlords?" Don't you agree? besides with out slave labor where are we going to get the dispossable bodies to build in Zero G and Absolute Zero? Wookies? They're all dead or devolved into Koalas and do you really believe koalas have the dexterity or intelligence to work in those coinditions? On a strict diet of difficult to obtain Eucolyptus?!! By Gods no!

They even don't have proves, that Bin Laden resposible for 9/11. Note, that Bin Laden was prepeared by USA in 1980s.
Anybody of you knows all details how it was prepared 9/11? no

Well of course not if we all knew the details we would know how exactly how carefully plotted and timed as santa claus' annual journey using stolen alien technology to deliver presents to all the good America Fearing children of the world. And we'd finally see a funding report for the easter bunny's genocide against all chicken kind clearly backed by the states sometime around his conception. Clearly we aren't eating them fast enough so we must devour their chicks while they are still in their soft marshmallowy phase...

Freakazoitt wrote:An all many wars USA was participated, everywhere USA was attacker (except of Pearl Harbor / Japan). But even Pearl Harbour wasn't real US territory that time (Hawai was occupied).
I understand that could exaggerate a little in the previous post, but the fact - America always an aggressor (except Pearl Harbour)
And I didn't learn who and why blew up towers 9/11 nobody offered any exact explanations. though the event was shocking, as a doomsday
But it tured to be doomsday for others, not for USA

imma leave these here... and hopefully hopefully something amazing happens. You know aside from the imminent firing of the North American Death Star.


Edit: To the person who beat me to the star wars references... You win this battle... but the war will be mine.

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Also I gotta know

 Freakazoitt wrote:

Is is responsible for every evil in the world ? No.

No. But who is more "evil"? Russia, which is only protected themself to survive many years? North Korea, which doesn't need real war, and the situation "as is" is ok for them. Iran, which was slandered? Nazi Germany, which no more?

Why are we talking about nazis? I mean yes those uniforms were stylish, but lets be honest they coppied everything from the First Order or the one True Galactic Empire.

There weren't even that many Native Americans when the US was founded. Most of them died when diseases spread by the Spanish wiped them out a few centuries earlier.

Look at him. It denies genocide of native indians. That's it it also does Americans not "best in the world". it forces to think of them, as "best in the world"

 Freakazoitt wrote:

No, but they add fuel to the fire

We quite literally, had nothing, to do with the Revolution of 1917. No one did. The Western World was in an uproar about the whole thing.

You might be thinking of how we backed the Whites in the Russian Civil War (who didn't?), but that just leads us to the completely hilarious claim that we support Trotsky. The only time the US wanted anything from Trotsky was use him to shut down the American Communist Party, which failed miserably because like most people, Trotsky was smarter than a US Senator

Of course not blameless. But it acted to defend agaist USA imperialistic actions. Sometimes it was necessary to do different things as support of Arabs instead of Israel. Oh acting as a home-assaulter in Afghanistan. But I wonder how americans proud of all they did or just ignore.

More than half the countries you listed were thrown into chaos by the KGB trying to start Communist Revolutions all over the world. We can debate the morality of America's penchant for intervening in foreign conflicts (and the CIA's continual losses to the KGB in those conflicts I might add ), but describing the policy as imperialistic isn't just hypocritical, it's counter factual.

 Freakazoitt wrote:
Look at him. It denies genocide of native indians.

That's a complete twisting of what he said.

No one in the US denies that we were gakky to the Native Americans. We might not use the word genocide, but I doubt anyone would oppose calling it a crime against humanity.

 Freakazoitt wrote:

(really, the US killed a hundred million native americans...where on earth are you getting that number?

I counted them

Ok...

Aside from the fact that there never were that many native peoples in the Americas, and most were had been killed by diseases by the time the US was established, methinks this is a wee bit of a ridiculous claim.

Really, the US was behind the 1917 revolution?

No, but they add fuel to the fire

No moreso than any other major western power. Singling out the US in this instance is also rather silly. Everyone who was anyone had a role in making that situation worse, but had very little to do with bringing the Bolsheviks to power.

. Russia certainly isn't blameless either, lets not forget the role of Russia/USSR in like half the countries from the list above

Of course not blameless. But it acted to defend agaist USA imperialistic actions.

Soviet backed North Korea launched a war of aggression to defend against US Imperialism? Lets be real here, most of these instances were cases of Imperialism and Realpolitik on both sides...

Sometimes it was necessary to do different things as support of Arabs instead of Israel.

Yes, but lets not pretend these actions weren't any less Realpolitik/Imperialist than US actions were.

Oh acting as a home-assaulter in Afghanistan. But I wonder how americans proud of all they did or just ignore.

Afghanistan has been the honeytrap of most major empires, and the US was stupid to go in there the way we did, absolutely.

No. But who is more "evil"? Russia, which is only protected themself to survive many years?

Hrm, methinks most of Eastern Europe would like to disagree with that assertion. I'll fully admit that Russia and the USSR have historically been nowhere near as warmongering as the US has often attempted to portray it (just as the US is nowhere near as warmongering as the USSR/Russia has attempted to portray it), but lets not make it out like Russia didn't act offensively in many cases in its own interests either.

North Korea, which doesn't need real war, and the situation "as is" is ok for them. Iran, which was slandered? Nazi Germany, which no more?

North Korea is certainly more "evil" if you really want to go there. The US has its issues, but it's not allowing its people to starve in order to prop a single family in power and does not publicly execute people who voice disagreement with the government or ship their families to prison camps for multiple generations. We have our problems, but yeah, North Korea is pretty insane. As for Iran, I wouldn't really consider them any more "evil" than the US, perhaps a bit nuttier, but no, I wouldn't call Iran, as a nation, any more "evil" than anyone else doing stuff over in that area of the world, the US included.

 LordofHats wrote:

We quite literally, had nothing, to do with the Revolution of 1917. No one did. The Western World was in an uproar about the whole thing.

You might be thinking of how we backed the Whites in the Russian Civil War (who didn't?), but that just leads us to the completely hilarious claim that we support Trotsky. The only time the US wanted anything from Trotsky was use him to shut down the American Communist Party, which failed miserably because like most people, Trotsky was smarter than a US Senator

American supporters of revolution: Jacob Schiff, Felix and Paul Warburg, Otto Kahn, Mortimer Schiff, Gugenhaim, Isaak Selingman.

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Freakazoitt wrote:

(really, the US killed a hundred million native americans...where on earth are you getting that number?

I counted them

Ok...

Aside from the fact that there never were that many native peoples in the Americas, and most were had been killed by diseases by the time the US was established, methinks this is a wee bit of a ridiculous claim.

On a slightly more serious and fascinating accountting of numbers, while there certainly was not 100 million native americans killed or inhabiting the mainland apprx. 6 thousand languages did go extinct during the colonization of the continent. But that does in no way really hold any substantial backing to any claim of 100 million. linky linky though some kinda a wiki? i honestly don't care enough to find you legit scholarly material on this subject matter it was travesty that happened well before any of us were born, well except me I'm an immortal sith but whatever, it's said and done. Clearly states that the total population through out the americas was somewhere between 2 million and 18 million (Though up to 90% population loss after European Intervention). So yes it would physically impossible to kill more than 18 million native inhabitants.


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 Freakazoitt wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

We quite literally, had nothing, to do with the Revolution of 1917. No one did. The Western World was in an uproar about the whole thing.

You might be thinking of how we backed the Whites in the Russian Civil War (who didn't?), but that just leads us to the completely hilarious claim that we support Trotsky. The only time the US wanted anything from Trotsky was use him to shut down the American Communist Party, which failed miserably because like most people, Trotsky was smarter than a US Senator

American supporters of revolution: Jacob Schiff, Felix and Paul Warburg, Otto Kahn, Mortimer Schiff, Gugenhaim, Isaak Selingman.

These people are also all german. Are you telling me that Germany also backed the bolsheviks. Because WW1 and WW2 propganda suggests otherwise.

Freakazoitt wrote:

 LordofHats wrote:

We quite literally, had nothing, to do with the Revolution of 1917. No one did. The Western World was in an uproar about the whole thing.

You might be thinking of how we backed the Whites in the Russian Civil War (who didn't?), but that just leads us to the completely hilarious claim that we support Trotsky. The only time the US wanted anything from Trotsky was use him to shut down the American Communist Party, which failed miserably because like most people, Trotsky was smarter than a US Senator

American supporters of revolution: Jacob Schiff, Felix and Paul Warburg, Otto Kahn, Mortimer Schiff, Gugenhaim, Isaak Selingman.

We're going to assume a handful of private individuals are now stand-ins for the entirety of the US and represent US government policy in the matter?

Darth_Lopez wrote:

 Vaktathi wrote:

 Freakazoitt wrote:

(really, the US killed a hundred million native americans...where on earth are you getting that number?

I counted them

Ok...

Aside from the fact that there never were that many native peoples in the Americas, and most were had been killed by diseases by the time the US was established, methinks this is a wee bit of a ridiculous claim.

On a slightly more serious and fascinating accountting of numbers, while there certainly was not 100 million native americans killed or inhabiting the mainland apprx. 6 thousand languages did go extinct during the colonization of the continent. But that does in no way really hold any substantial backing to any claim of 100 million. linky linky though some kinda a wiki? i honestly don't care enough to find you legit scholarly material on this subject matter it was travesty that happened well before any of us were born, well except me I'm an immortal sith but whatever, it's said and done. Clearly states that the total population through out the americas was somewhere between 2 million and 18 million (Though up to 90% population loss after European Intervention). So yes it would physically impossible to kill more than 18 million native inhabitants.

Good call. Yeah, lots of bad stuff happened to the people who lived here before, but 100 million is a silly number

These people are also all german. Are you telling me that Germany also backed the bolsheviks. Because WW1 and WW2 propganda suggests otherwise.

To be fair, it was the Germans who facilitated Lenin's return to Russia from Switzerland in the (subsequently achieved) hopes of destabilizing the Czar and forcing them out of the war (. It ended up being something of a backfiring policy ), and socialist ideals were quite strong among many elements of the German population

Very silly number. Trust me I was there, I counted.


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 Vaktathi wrote:


To be fair, it was the Germans who facilitated Lenin's return to Russia from Switzerland in the (subsequently achieved) hopes of destabilizing the Czar and forcing them out of the war (. It ended up being something of a backfiring policy ), and socialist ideals were quite strong among many elements of the German population

That is a fair point, but it was an attempt to remove Russia from the war. It was clearly Successful but shouldn't be interpretted necessarily as Supporting the Bolshevik cause. It was mearly intended to divert the Armies away from the United Austro-German-Ottoman Front and focus the attention on the homefront. To that regards it was incredibly successfuly (And clearly American Manipulation, not german ; P) The Socialist Ideals to some extent did remain, and clearly do to this day. I think we can attribute much of Germany's Robust Economy to many of their socialist leanings.

 Freakazoitt wrote:

American supporters of revolution: Jacob Schiff, Felix and Paul Warburg, Otto Kahn, Mortimer Schiff, Gugenhaim, Isaak Selingman.

Jacob Schiff was not involved in the 1917 Revolution (you're thinking of either the failed 1905 Revolution, or his promotion of Pro-Japanese Propaganda in the Russo-Japanese War + financing the Empire of Japan to execute the war). In either case, he didn't really 'finance' anyone so much as he used his influence to block lines of credit to the Imperial Russian Government). EDIT: Stricken for incorrectness.

The men you list are part of what was called the 'Pro-Germany Faction,' a group of Germans around the world who helped finance the Whites in the Russian Civil War. They did finance various Pro-Jewish groups prior to the Revolution out of altruistic concern for the oppression of Jews in the Russian Empire, but the Bolsheviks just as vehemently Anti-Jewish, so feel free to make up reasons for why they would support the 1917 Revolution.

Also, all of the above were Germans (Except Gugenhaim who was Swiss), who immigrated to America (Except Jacob's son Mortimer, who was born State Side). So, if we're really going to start blaming states for the actions of individuals, I propose that Germany is really the most evil empire, and America is simply her patsy, and clearly Kuhn, Loeb, & Comp was part of the secret Zionist movement. The Nazi's were right!

 Freakazoitt wrote:

There weren't even that many Native Americans when the US was founded. Most of them died when diseases spread by the Spanish wiped them out a few centuries earlier.

Look at him. It denies genocide of native indians. That's it it also does Americans not "best in the world". it forces to think of them, as "best in the world"

I'm not denying the atrocities the United States committed against the Native Americans. Our march to the West left a bloody trail of footprints. I'm just saying that your claim that we killed 100 million Indians are exaggerated at best given that there weren't that many Native Americans around when the US became a country.

Where did you get these figures?

The current US population is a little over 300 million. If there were 100 million Native Americans 200 years ago, you'd think someone would have noticed, especially as there were only about 5 million Americans within the US in 1800...

Yes, America is responsible for a lot of bad things over the years in the name of American Interests and Spreading Freedom and Democracy. There are, however, other countries whose hands are demonstrably dirtier.

I voted 'Love it' because I've never met an American I didn't like, either here or on my last holiday.

You guys are alright

This poll would have been more interesting if seperated into views of people from the US vs RoW.

Personally I am a "meh" on America. Plenty I like and plenty I dislike, with both good and bad people. Certainly whenever I have been there I have enjoyed it and everyone has been pretty nice. Most of the issue I have is with the "big picture" stuff.

I see the us imploding within the next 50 years if they don't resolve the race problems they are having, and then taking The world with them, seriosly, it looks like your headed for your 3rd civil war.


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Not that Britain's any different, how many have we had? 5/6?

 VorpalBunny74 wrote:
I voted 'Love it' because I've never met an American I didn't like, either here or on my last holiday.

You guys are alright

You're ignoring our outlandishly evil side.

 Freakazoitt wrote:
I don't like when someone judges others. but now I can't keep.

It is obvious that the USA now the most evil country (for others).

Evil Empire as the Rome was for everyone who refuse to be enslaved.
now there is nobody who so widely uses violence for the purposes
Аnd the country was such earlier - it killed 100000000 native indians and never consider it as crime. "Good indian - dead indian". Something like nazi's slogan isn't it?
WW1, WW2 - it everything sources of the income for the USA. Favorable business.
The American agents financed revolution 1917 in Russia. Then they financed Trotsky. In total for introduction of chaos. in the same way, as they do it today.

Panama, Costa-Rika, Gonduras, Guatemala, Turkey, China, Nikaragua, Salvador, Yougoslavia, Greece, Philipines, Korea, Vietnam, Lebanon, Laos, Gaiti, Dominican, Irac, Brazil, Bolivia, Chilie, Uruguai, Central Africa, Cambodia, Zambia, Grenada, Libia, Columbia - everywhere America does revolutions, prepares acts of terrorism, interferes, finances dictators and destroys stability.

USA sponsored an prepeared Georgia to invade South Ossetia.
It sposored 2004 Ukraine crysis. It resposible for 2014 events in Ukraine,

There is no justification to all this, but USA own interests.

They even don't have proves, that Bin Laden resposible for 9/11. Note, that Bin Laden was prepeared by USA in 1980s.
Anybody of you knows all details how it was prepared 9/11? no

Holy Hell. A Russian gone self righteous. I would counter but the path that this one is going down is to damn funny

 Freakazoitt wrote:

(really, the US killed a hundred million native americans...where on earth are you getting that number?

I counted them

Really, the US was behind the 1917 revolution?

No, but they add fuel to the fire

. Russia certainly isn't blameless either, lets not forget the role of Russia/USSR in like half the countries from the list above

Of course not blameless. But it acted to defend agaist USA imperialistic actions. Sometimes it was necessary to do different things as support of Arabs instead of Israel. Oh acting as a home-assaulter in Afghanistan. But I wonder how americans proud of all they did or just ignore.

Is is responsible for every evil in the world ? No.

No. But who is more "evil"? Russia, which is only protected themself to survive many years? North Korea, which doesn't need real war, and the situation "as is" is ok for them. Iran, which was slandered? Nazi Germany, which no more?

Russians I'm buds with had this conversation with me as we compared what scared us as kids about each other's countries. After that we all had a laugh and went out on the town for the night.

 Swastakowey wrote:
Somewhat low...

However I understand they are people like everyone else.

To be 100% honest, I really hate American cheese the most. The stuff doesn't change when heated. it like... never melts or something. Especially that canned stuff. Not much food from the USA seems appealing (well that I have seen).

Perhaps you have not tasted the glory of a bacon-cheddar cheese buffalo burger?


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 sebster wrote:
I think it's a great country, happy to put 'love it' as my answer.

This thread is pretty sad though. Weirdly insecure. You're the strongest, richest kid in the whole school, running around asking all the other kids if they really like you is lame.

Are you kidding me? I'm divided between dislike and meh. I've contemplated moving to another country a million times. Our government is untrustworthy, not to mention murderous. Feminists hold way too much power (it's an outdated movement, and it has accomplished its stated intentions. Why won't it just go away and stop sounding like the Nazis for women?). Half the people in this country are idiots, 4 fifths of it are mediocre intelligence, and maybe a tenth are actually worth talking to. We argue over the most slowed things. The freedoms and food we get here are the redeeming qualities for so many things about this country that I dislike, and the food might be the only reason I don't move to a different country. Quite simply put: the US has the potential to be the best country in the world, it was once, and it could be again. However, it sucks right now, and, no matter how much I love the vision of America that I wish could come true, there is far too much wrong with this country for me to honestly say that I live in the best country in the world.

@dusara217
They're talking about the Kraft "American Cheese". That or Velveeta. Both of which are terrible.

 Freakazoitt wrote:
Americans, do you think, in 1950s 60s USA was better than now?

I'd say that the xenophobia is counterbalanced by less drugs, smaller prisons, etc. That would be a definite yes.

"American" cheese, the Kraft slices stuff, was engineered (yes, that's the correct word) for a specific purpose. To go on burgers.

In that respect, it's actually pretty great. If you're using it for anything else, it's going to be terrible.

 dusara217 wrote:

 Freakazoitt wrote:
Americans, do you think, in 1950s 60s USA was better than now?

I'd say that the xenophobia is counterbalanced by less drugs, smaller prisons, etc. That would be a definite yes.

Hrm, I'd rather live in the US of today than the US of the 50's or 60's. Drug use has always existed, they just didn't have the insane "war on drugs" back then. Standards of living are higher now (across the broad spectrum of the entire population), social & ethnic tensions are significantly less (despite what one may see on the news), access to knowledge and technological proliferation is better than ever before, etc. While the current state of affairs has its issues, I'd certainly rather live in the US of today than the US of the 50's or 60's.

 Iron_Captain wrote:
I strongly dislike America as a state. It is hard to find a state whose foreign policies I disagree more with. I always disliked them, but I think the russophobia that became much more prominent in American media since 2014 pushed me to hate.
I could start an entire rant here about how the US is evil and everything it did wrong, but I don't think anyone is interested. You can just read it on the internet anyway, my reasons are pretty much the same as those of most Russians.

But once you take their self-righteousness away, I quite like Americans as a people. They are funny and crazy (both in good and in bad ways). They are open, optimistic and have a great sense of humour. Even American politics seem like a comedy show. At least, that is how they present it on the Dutch news, where they only show the crazy parts.

lol, you gotta love that Russian propaganda. Especially because I have yet to see any phobia regarding Russia over here in my homeland, the US of MURICA


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 Freakazoitt wrote:

(really, the US killed a hundred million native americans...where on earth are you getting that number?

I counted them

Really, the US was behind the 1917 revolution?

No, but they add fuel to the fire

. Russia certainly isn't blameless either, lets not forget the role of Russia/USSR in like half the countries from the list above

Of course not blameless. But it acted to defend agaist USA imperialistic actions. Sometimes it was necessary to do different things as support of Arabs instead of Israel. Oh acting as a home-assaulter in Afghanistan. But I wonder how americans proud of all they did or just ignore.

Is is responsible for every evil in the world ? No.

No. But who is more "evil"? Russia, which is only protected themself to survive many years? North Korea, which doesn't need real war, and the situation "as is" is ok for them. Iran, which was slandered? Nazi Germany, which no more?

The Russian propaganda is strong with this one

 Vaktathi wrote:
"American" cheese, the Kraft slices stuff, was engineered (yes, that's the correct word) for a specific purpose. To go on burgers.

In that respect, it's actually pretty great. If you're using it for anything else, it's going to be terrible.

I thought it was engineered to last for MREs?

The US? Not a fan, for various reasons, on one hand they declared war on us through treacherous means, and proceeded to dishonourably beat the gak out of us, and they didn't even give us monies.

And there is also a certain hug with someone you don't want to be seen hugging while you claim to be the lords of freedom and democracy.


And they have ridiculous names, I mean, Dwight? Really? and Montgomery, what were his parents thinking? what are his friends going to call him? Mongo? Mary?

And while my dear Spain is a horrible country, with rampant corruption and incompetence, we have two things the US doesn't, a king (a good chap, doesn't get into policy too much, granted, after all the problems his now happily retired dad got in he better be quiet), and socialized health care, who is envious now?

On Russia, while Putin is a controversial character, and while some of his actions are... not exactly declarations of universal friendship, the guy is competent, you don't see Obama annexing peninsulas (*ahem*nor do you see him close a certain place he promised he would close*ahem*), and he has been voted.

And hey, we have so many Russians in Catalonia that he may even support our unilateral declaration of independence.

 Sinful Hero wrote:
@dusara217
They're talking about the Kraft "American Cheese". That or Velveeta. Both of which are terrible.

Nah, all American cheese.

You guys need to learn to let your cheese mature and get some flavour

 aldo wrote:
And while my dear Spain is a horrible country, with rampant corruption and incompetence, we have two things the US doesn't, a king (a good chap, doesn't get into policy too much, granted, after all the problems his now happily retired dad got in he better be quiet), and socialized health care, who is envious now?

I lived under a monarch, and the NHS. I can't say that I miss either one