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Everybody has something that annoys them during the game when it comes to their opponent. For me, it's the obnoxious trend of people keeping their army list and/or codex on a tablet, or even worse their phone. In my experience, it only slows down the game as people search through their app/ebook. What regular codexes and rulebooks lack in portability, they more than make up for in ease of use. If you give me my codex or rulebook, I can guarantee I will find the relevant passage/section faster than someone on a device, and I'm pretty sure the same goes for most other people.

Runners up include rules lawyers in general, and people who don't know their own army/codex specifically (new players have an exemption).

Feel free to share what annoys you during 40k games.

Psychic heavy armies when I'm running a army with no psykers... lol

Spam of knights / riptides / equivalent unit.

Sure bring one to a 1000 pt game, but if you bring 2 I will slap you.

Units choices are rarely a peeve for me (unless it's loads of Superheavies) but Rules Layering can get old fast.

Your opponent not telling you what they is rolling for really annoys me.

Also, what is the definition of rules lawyering? If my opponent is wrong about a rule and I know it and pull out the rulebook to correct them, is that a negative?

People not knowing basic things from their codex due to not reading it properly annoys me greatly. My best mate is probably one of the worst for it, mostly hindering himself as well... (he plays GK, and it took like four games when we got back into the hobby for him to realise his dreadnought was a psyker, and even then that was only because I was reading his codex).

Armies that get ostensibly heavy weapons on every model in a unit. Armies that get heavy weapons on every model in a troops choice. Armies that get heavy weapons in general I guess.

So let me get this straight... I can not bring my Knight, Dreadknight, Kaldor Draigo, or Stormraven... but you can bring 2 units with torsion cannons, 2 units with Heavy Grav Cannons (or whatever the Kataphron have), AND a ball of deadly killer martian robots with power fists and various weapons... Where everything ignores armor and has 24 inch range or better (where my army has a max range of 24 inches...)

I get *why* Grey Knights only get special weapons, but why does every other army have to outgun them? Purgation Squads should have access to Dreadknight guns.


(As a note, my definition of special weapons is a weapon that has medium strength (or special rules which amplify damage) high RoF weapons with short-medium range (with some leeway, such as melta being a special weapon in my mind even though its high strength). Heavy weapons are high Strength, long range, good armor piercing weapons (most often actually have the Heavy special rule, but not all weapons with the Heavy rule are Heavy weapons)

 corrm wrote:
Your opponent not telling you what they is rolling for really annoys me.

Also, what is the definition of rules lawyering? If my opponent is wrong about a rule and I know it and pull out the rulebook to correct them, is that a negative?

No thats not rules lawyering.

Rules lawyering is exploiting the wording and loopholes of the rules for an advantage (usually against the spirit of the game). A good example of this is that technically if you covered the entire floor of a ruin with a unit that unit becomes unassaultable even if that assaulting unit was like 2"s away on the floor below it (because in order to successfully charge you have to make base contact but with the floor completely covered in models you don't have anywhere to put a charge model down).

Lack of decent terrain. That is all.

Camundongo wrote:People not knowing basic things from their codex due to not reading it properly annoys me greatly. My best mate is probably one of the worst for it, mostly hindering himself as well... (he plays GK, and it took like four games when we got back into the hobby for him to realise his dreadnought was a psyker, and even then that was only because I was reading his codex).

One of my college roommates still hasn't memorized the BS Table.....T________T

If he keeps it up. I'm going to make good on my threat to tell him that his army hits on a 4+ with every unit (he plays CSM and Blood Angels)

CrownAxe wrote:

 corrm wrote:
Your opponent not telling you what they is rolling for really annoys me.

Also, what is the definition of rules lawyering? If my opponent is wrong about a rule and I know it and pull out the rulebook to correct them, is that a negative?

No thats not rules lawyering.

Rules lawyering is exploiting the wording and loopholes of the rules for an advantage (usually against the spirit of the game). A good example of this is that technically if you covered the entire floor of a ruin with a unit that unit becomes unassaultable even if that assaulting unit was like 2"s away on the floor below it (because in order to successfully charge you have to make base contact but with the floor completely covered in models you don't have anywhere to put a charge model down).

If somebody ever did this, I would make it a case of Wobbly Model Syndrome. Fortunately, most places I play at have the "Vertical Consolidation" house rule, where if you can't put your model one floor up, you opponent has to move one floor down to try to get into BtB. You can also charge a unit two floors up that you can't see under the same house rules.

Not declaring intent on a die roll beforehand.

-rolls a 2-
"What's that?"
"Oh just a dangerous terrain check from this vehicle going flat out, and NOT my one important melta shot."
-rolls another 2-
"Dangerous terrain for this one now."
-rolls a 4-
"And the melta shot!"

That and people who complain about 40k games taking too long but take like 1.5 hours to start playing. (They wait til game time to build a list, get out those models etc, all while chatting.)

-I suppose spending 30 mins debating the linguistics of one sentence in the main rule book can be annoying.
-Running out of beer part way into the game is a big no-no.
-A cat jumping on the table jealous that the models are getting attention and not it.
-Non emergency phone calls.
-Wife and kids bringing their bath time argument into the room to share with the guests.
-Being the only smoker standing outside having a smoke break (I really gotta quit smoking).
-Someone watching TV or Youtube or whatever show in the same room as the game.
-Emergency phone calls.

I typically play 40k with a bunch of guys in our gaming group. We all play pretty fairly and have fun, but when I do go to more public places for games, I wish some of the gaming tables had a decent amount of terrain. (Ideally like 50% of the board). And sometimes there's a few creepies staring at me because I'm a girl. Most of the guys there are decent enough, but oh well. I guess it's expected.
Also, when I play against some people who are ultra competitive and go on about "My army is the best". I just want to have a good time rolling dice, moving models and chatting with my opponent.

Ah.. The joys of wargaming...

having your opponent take a 45 min smoke break at the end of game turn one and not telling you about it. That and having your opponent hold you to certain rules but then fails to abide by said rules when you call them on it

My only pet peeves are stuff like...

-opponent clearly did not bathe that day
-opponent obviously modeled for advantage
-opponent deliberately misinterprets rules for advantage
-opponent changes the table or moves models when I look away
-opponent makes up rules out of whole cloth to see if they can get away with it
-opponent lies about dice roll results

That sort of thing. Other than that, I don't care. Unpainted models, proxies, (legitimate) unfamiliarity with rules, taking excessively long turns, chit-chat, modeling while playing, painting while playing, etc etc etc. Doesn't bother me.

 j31c3n wrote:
My only pet peeves are stuff like...

-opponent clearly did not bathe that day
-opponent obviously modeled for advantage
-opponent deliberately misinterprets rules for advantage
-opponent changes the table or moves models when I look away
-opponent makes up rules out of whole cloth to see if they can get away with it
-opponent lies about dice roll results

That sort of thing. Other than that, I don't care. Unpainted models, proxies, (legitimate) unfamiliarity with rules, taking excessively long turns, chit-chat, modeling while playing, painting while playing, etc etc etc. Doesn't bother me.

Apart from number one, most of those I personally would consider cheating behavior. Heck, I'm the kind of guy who gets suspicious if I think that people aren't rolling dice properly, but that's a minor issue and a debate for another thread.

On second thought, not bathing could also potentially be used as psychological warfare, so that's cheating too. Or at least bad sportsmanship

 TheNewBlood wrote:

 j31c3n wrote:
My only pet peeves are stuff like...

-opponent clearly did not bathe that day
-opponent obviously modeled for advantage
-opponent deliberately misinterprets rules for advantage
-opponent changes the table or moves models when I look away
-opponent makes up rules out of whole cloth to see if they can get away with it
-opponent lies about dice roll results

That sort of thing. Other than that, I don't care. Unpainted models, proxies, (legitimate) unfamiliarity with rules, taking excessively long turns, chit-chat, modeling while playing, painting while playing, etc etc etc. Doesn't bother me.

Apart from number one, most of those I personally would consider cheating behavior. Heck, I'm the kind of guy who gets suspicious if I think that people aren't rolling dice properly, but that's a minor issue and a debate for another thread.

On second thought, not bathing could also potentially be used as psychological warfare, so that's cheating too. Or at least bad sportsmanship

This is essentially the short list of how to guarantee I'll never play a game with you again. Other than those things, I'm very permissive and I just want to have a fun time rolling some dice and pushing little plastic figurines around the table,

People who roll dice quickly/behind stuff. Also people I don't know/barely met touching my models without asking (casualties, etc.). Also, general boasting or TFG behavior. Unless we're friends or its in jest, it seems assholey.

I suppose when my opponent gets rather..."moody"...when losing/lost the game.

 j31c3n wrote:
My only pet peeves are stuff like...

-opponent clearly did not bathe that day
-opponent obviously modeled for advantage
-opponent deliberately misinterprets rules for advantage
-opponent changes the table or moves models when I look away
-opponent makes up rules out of whole cloth to see if they can get away with it
-opponent lies about dice roll results

That sort of thing. Other than that, I don't care. Unpainted models, proxies, (legitimate) unfamiliarity with rules, taking excessively long turns, chit-chat, modeling while playing, painting while playing, etc etc etc. Doesn't bother me.

Hahahahhaahhahahaha "opponent clearly did not bathe that day".
I laughed way too much at that.

When my opponent take 2+ minutes to talk to someone else.
When my opponent leaves the table for anything more then a quick bathroom break.

When my opponent is obviously pissed off, and you can just feel them trying to melt their own dice with pure hate.. Really makes me feel bad for kickin' their butt, and I lose joy in the game. (Note, that this happens to me, but I just quietly sulk.)

When other people give my opponent tips, and suggestions on how to beat me. Even with 2 years of play under my belt, I'm still the newest (and most forgetful) player there.

The rest of my peeves are centered around me, but that's about it.

I'd like to think that I'm fairly level headed and able to let things roll off my back but there are a few things at at least bother me.

- cheating. FOR THE LIFE OF ME I cannot understand why someone would even attempt this, is the game really that serious?! I doubt

- Arrogance/poor attitude. I'll play anyone given they have a decent attitude, I'm all about mutual enjoyment of the game.
Heck I'd play 40k with a 5 year old if the kid was a good sport. That said I'll not tolerate "more beardy than thou" there's no fun in it.

- Getting "flawless victoried". I recently played in a tourney where facing demon army I was utterly tabled with only a unit of 4 nurglings to claim as a kill. While rare in their occurrence these few games always stand out the most in my mind. They are jusrt cringe worthy losses. Zero fun coupled with a mix of feeling as the you have really and truly wasted your time. I don't get angry or even remotely upset, they are just soul crushing because of I couldn't even put up a fight.

People stuck on 6th edition rulings.

People who stare at me with a clearly mean smile when they kill/destroy something important in my army. I once played against a 14/15yo in my FLGS and each time he did damage to my troops, he did that. I ended up telling him it was just a game... I had never seen that before.

When people go "Why don't you buy some of these?" God dangit stop telling me to buy damn riptides, I refuse to own one.

When people tell me Tau are a gunline army. I don't even play gunline style!

When people think Tau are cheese. I am using only crisis suits, broadsides, and drones. Its fluffy, not cheese!

When people call Tau a "anime fan communist army", please, just let me enjoy my army, I don't go out of my way to insult your army!

When people forget that there are two gunline armies...

When people roll their Warlod traits or psychic powers while I'm not looking.

When people ask me to change dice after I just randomly picked up any old dice from the table to begin with, and started rolling well.
It's just luck, changing the dice doesn't change the fact it's happening. You don't ask me to change dice if I roll badly.

Worst was when I borrowed a random scatter dice and absolutely pasted my friend into the ground with a Leman Russ for two consecutive turns. Thats eight out of ten rolls being outright hits, and two just under BS so staying on target.
"Change your dice!"
"They're your dice."
"...What did you do to them?"

The feth, people. They're just dice, I'm not a wizard.

 Buttery Commissar wrote:
When people ask me to change dice after I just randomly picked up any old dice from the table to begin with, and started rolling well.
It's just luck, changing the dice doesn't change the fact it's happening. You don't ask me to change dice if I roll badly.

Worst was when I borrowed a random scatter dice and absolutely pasted my friend into the ground with a Leman Russ for two consecutive turns. Thats eight out of ten rolls being outright hits, and two just under BS so staying on target.
"Change your dice!"
"They're your dice."
"...What did you do to them?"

The feth, people. They're just dice, I'm not a wizard.

You're a wizard Buttery...

 TheNewBlood wrote:

One of my college roommates still hasn't memorized the BS Table.....T________T

What is there to memorise? You subtract the model's BS from 7...