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Really?

 timetowaste85 wrote:
So bummed that it appears the Marvel line is ending!

What do you mean, what's happening?

See the News and Rumours thread for more, but the word is KM have lost/dropped the Marvel rights. From a business perspective, it makes sense, as with HP coming out as well they'd be maintaining 4 separate lines with what is still a very small team, but it's undoubtedly a shame.

The official announcement is expected next week, so if there's any Marvel stuff you want, grab it ASAP!

And here we go: From KM's FB page:

Dear Customers,
This is going to be a year full of changes and new projects at Knight Models.
Our company was founded in 2008 and began working with Marvel Entertainment Inc. licensed products by designing and manufacturing high quality miniatures of its most famous heroes and villains for collectors and painters. Later, we expanded that relationship and created the Universe Miniature Game and its range of gaming miniatures.
Our long entrepreneurial relationship with Marvel has been incredible, and working on such a gratifying project for so many years, developing those characters that we love so much, has made us very happy. Unfortunately, all good things must come to an end.
Knight Models will no longer make products based on the Marvel Universe licence.
It has been a difficult decision, as many hours of work, effort and excitement were invested in this licence. But we consider that our business must follow another path.
We would like to thank the teams at Disney and Marvel Entertainment Inc. for allowing us to create such wonderful products. We also want to thank you, our followers, for your support.
Our investment in our superheroes lines, however, continues with the DC Universe Miniature Game and, of course, our flagship Batman Miniature Game – these lines will continue to be developed, and we’re incredibly excited for the future of these lines, as well as forthcoming projects. The Batman Miniature Game has become a cornerstone in miniature skirmish gaming. The successful launch of the Suicide Squad game box has allowed us to invest even further in the game’s future, and grow our wonderful gaming community.
This year we celebrate the Batman Miniature Game’s 5th Anniversary, and we’re doing so in style, with some very special anniversary products and brand new expansions, starting with the Arkham Knight campaign book, with more great new content to follow.
Of course, it cannot have escaped the community’s attention that Knight Models will soon be launching another big licenced product. We are thrilled to have the opportunity to work with Warner Bros. over the following years, and enter the fantastic, magical universe of Harry Potter. The Harry Potter Miniature Game will be a culmination of the team’s hard work and dedication to creating a true quality gaming experience, and we look forward to launching some of the most spectacular miniatures to accompany it. We hope that you’ll enjoy this new project as much as we have working on it!

Harry Potter? Ugh, forget that.

I was actually hoping to see some of my favourite X-Men and Avengers characters showing up too. Very disappointed in this news.

I am guessing the license got too expensive. That is the problem with licensed lines. The real money is in your own IP IF you can get it off the ground.

That's a bit of crap stick for the Marvel players. But I am excited to see more BMG stuff coming out. I am pretty impressed with the Suicide Squad box set.

Not really keen on a HP game though. I think there must ber a better IP that they could work with/ on.

Mat

Was a book for the Spiderman Miniatures Game ever released? PDF or hard copy?

If PDF, is there any place to get a copy (assuming it was a free download to begin with)?

 CptJake wrote:
Was a book for the Spiderman Miniatures Game ever released? PDF or hard copy?

If PDF, is there any place to get a copy (assuming it was a free download to begin with)?

Sorry, no idea. I have never played the Spiderman game. Might be good to get the rules as a PDF though.

Mat

The core rules for Spidey are exactly the same as Batman, the only difference is some special rules found on the character cards. All these are actually in the BMG wiki to the best of my knowledge, so assuming you can find the cards (might be the hard part now everything Marvel is gone from the KM site) the rest can be played using that:

http://www.critskillpeople.com/bmgwiki/

So my store suddenly started carrying this game and I was instantly drawn to the court of owls (one of the best batman stories I think).

Does anyone have any tactics for them? I picked up the starter gang of the O'Malleys and the court leader.
My only worry is they can't hire anyone but other court of owls members but at least I won't have to buy that much.

Lots of people in a couple different FB groups i'm in are talking about selling their MUMG stuff.

But why? It's still compatible w/ DCUMG. I've asked in both groups, yet to get an answer... Is it just shortsightedness or some form of overreaction? Or am I missing something? They refuse to play DCUMG?

Because they're angry and want some form of return on the models they bought into?
I'm keeping mine, but I can say that KM won't see another dime from me.

 Dr. Cheesesteak wrote:
Lots of people in a couple different FB groups i'm in are talking about selling their MUMG stuff.

But why? It's still compatible w/ DCUMG. I've asked in both groups, yet to get an answer... Is it just shortsightedness or some form of overreaction? Or am I missing something? They refuse to play DCUMG?

I guess it's the same reason that while I'm keeping my Avengers and X-men teams, I decided not to panic-buy stuff to fill them out; ultimately, with such a small pool of models to actually pick from, games are going to get stale very fast, with no chance of new stuff coming along to mix it up. I'd rather spend that same money on building up good and evil DCUMG teams that I can continue to expand over time, rather than invest more in a game with very finite options. The Marvel teams will still see action against DC stuff but I figured it wasn't worth expanding them now.

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Because they're angry and want some form of return on the models they bought into?
I'm keeping mine, but I can say that KM won't see another dime from me.

No i figured something like that, but again - you/they can still play it w/ an actively supported game. Do you just refuse to play vs DCU models?

I'll play against DC, personally. But I won't buy anymore. Others won't even support the game. I bought the models. I like the models. I wanna use them. I don't want to send another dime to KM though.

In a few years people will be after the Marvel range and you won't be able to find them anywhere. Marvel will always be popular.

To try and drum up some conversation, and also to get it away from the slightly depressing topic of the Marvel license, I have a list that I would like some advice on.

Batman (Ben Affleck)- 150
- Kevlar Cowl- $250
- Reinforced Batsuit- $100
Nightwing- 85
- Batman Inc- 3/$400
Black Canary- 69
Agent Ron- 25/$300
- Street Patrol- $50
Gotham Policeman- 16
- Whistle- $200
Gotham Policewoman- 14
- Whistle- $200
Comes out to 337/$1500 (I would add in another generic cop, but it's for a tournament tomorrow and I don't have the model). I've played a few games with it, including a practice tournament last week, and I feel like it works well, although I need to work out how to use them best. Practice tournament was 2 minor losses to Two-Face and Mad Hatter then a flogging by a Joker horde crew.

The intention of the list is to have Canary use her cry on weaker goons while trying to also clip priority targets, then Nightwing/Batman follow up and knock out the more problem models. Once they're knocked out, Bats and Nightwing move on to the next target while the cops follow up behind and arrest/take objectives.

I'm not too experienced with the game but my rule for it is. Always O'Connell. Always.

Hey Guys, for those interested in SMG, with the Marvel license gone I have set up a Living Rulebook project group for the game on FB called Hell's Kitchen!

Basically this group will carry on the SMG stuff as an unofficial fan-made living rulebook compatible with BMG still.

Currently we are working on some old cards someone made in the ACL Forum but next week we should get started on working towards more Henchmen and Gang Equipment Lists

Hope to see you all there

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1606387449376679/

 Rygnan wrote:
To try and drum up some conversation, and also to get it away from the slightly depressing topic of the Marvel license, I have a list that I would like some advice on.

Spoiler:

Batman (Ben Affleck)- 150
- Kevlar Cowl- $250
- Reinforced Batsuit- $100
Nightwing- 85
- Batman Inc- 3/$400
Black Canary- 69
Agent Ron- 25/$300
- Street Patrol- $50
Gotham Policeman- 16
- Whistle- $200
Gotham Policewoman- 14
- Whistle- $200

Comes out to 337/$1500 (I would add in another generic cop, but it's for a tournament tomorrow and I don't have the model). I've played a few games with it, including a practice tournament last week, and I feel like it works well, although I need to work out how to use them best. Practice tournament was 2 minor losses to Two-Face and Mad Hatter then a flogging by a Joker horde crew.

The intention of the list is to have Canary use her cry on weaker goons while trying to also clip priority targets, then Nightwing/Batman follow up and knock out the more problem models. Once they're knocked out, Bats and Nightwing move on to the next target while the cops follow up behind and arrest/take objectives.

Seems solid to me, I've found Nightwing and Canary to be a devastating combo in the past, great for taking on hordes but if you can get a lucky hit on a more powerful model then be sure to prioritise them for a beat-down from NW or Bats, it's a rare chance for either to attack with their full potential. Also keep in mind that Canary's Cry only costs 2SC, and with Acrobat (for 12CM basic move), Attack 4, Strength 4+ and Technique, she's no slouch in combat against a lone thug or even non-combat-focused Free Agent herself. So while you never want to overexpose her, don't be afraid to send her up against a minion if it gets you an objective or if they're on their last legs, especially if they were also hit with her Cry.

 The Warp Forge wrote:
Hey Guys, for those interested in SMG, with the Marvel license gone I have set up a Living Rulebook project group for the game on FB called Hell's Kitchen!

Basically this group will carry on the SMG stuff as an unofficial fan-made living rulebook compatible with BMG still.

Currently we are working on some old cards someone made in the ACL Forum but next week we should get started on working towards more Henchmen and Gang Equipment Lists

Hope to see you all there

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1606387449376679/

Interesting. Unfortunately I'm not on facebook, but if you start a new thread or something for this, let us know so I can follow it.

Soul Samurai wrote:

 The Warp Forge wrote:
Hey Guys, for those interested in SMG, with the Marvel license gone I have set up a Living Rulebook project group for the game on FB called Hell's Kitchen!

Basically this group will carry on the SMG stuff as an unofficial fan-made living rulebook compatible with BMG still.

Currently we are working on some old cards someone made in the ACL Forum but next week we should get started on working towards more Henchmen and Gang Equipment Lists

Hope to see you all there

https://www.facebook.com/groups/1606387449376679/

Interesting. Unfortunately I'm not on facebook, but if you start a new thread or something for this, let us know so I can follow it.

I shall do once we get a few Gangs under the belt

Any chance of fan-made (not OP) MUG characters showing up? I'd like to bulk up my X-Men team, and would love to do an X-Force group, but I'm shy Psylocke and Angel (and Fantomex, I guess).

 timetowaste85 wrote:
Any chance of fan-made (not OP) MUG characters showing up? I'd like to bulk up my X-Men team, and would love to do an X-Force group, but I'm shy Psylocke and Angel (and Fantomex, I guess).

There's a few FB groups going around making custom cards

Speaking of which, these just turned up on ToaTS, supposedly close to what was being officually tested...
http://pressganger.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/more-marvel-leaks-silver-surfer-and.html

What really annoys me about that is that KM had a Captain Marvel model in the works, and now we'll never get it!

Anyone have any tactics for the court of owls?

Even more leaks for Marvel, again apparently stuff that was being worked on:
http://pressganger.blogspot.co.uk/2017/02/even-more-and-all-marvel-universe-leaks.html

Para, you just made my day!! With Psylocke and Falcon proxied as Archangel, I can run X-Force now!!

Building my first list up. Not 100% sure if it's legal, but I think it should be fine. New player, no games under my belt. Big Joker fan, so went with his crew first.

Leader
Joker (The Killing Joke) - Nerve Gas

Sidekick
Joker's Daughter - Neurtoxic Drugs

Henchmen
Joker's Titan Clown
Ringmaster - Improvisied Armour
August - Clown Paint
Clownshield - Clown Paint

Comes out to 295 Rep, $1000.00 funding, down to $900.00 funding on Joker's Daughter.