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Oh. I don't have that one yet. So are they of any use or what?

I dunno, in terms of weapons they have Bolters that they can swap for Combi-Bolters so I'm guessing these are combi-bolters. They have Banestrike ammo (AP3 on wound rolls of 6's) and preferred enemy:infantry. I don't think they're bad but nothing amazing.

o0o0 HH modeling masterclass....I do love those books. I got the first one and I'm looking at getting the second one and now the HH one...

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Oh. I don't have that one yet. So are they of any use or what?

They are really bad seekers. you pay 1 melta bomb each to gain HoW, infiltrate (lost if you buy a transport), PE: infantry, and a really gak specialist CCW (s:-1, ap3, rending). You lose PE: 1 unit, option to take combi weapons, and the special ammo (kraken, tempest, and scorpii). You end up paying more for a worse unit, if they could take combi weapons they would be good, but if they can only take combi bolters they are just bad.

You end up taking infiltrate or pods more often in AL so their infiltrate is wasted. The specialist weapon is only marginally better than 2 CCW. HoW can only be used if you don't fire your bolters. Banestike rounds are only marginally better than normal rounds vs MEQ, but have shorter range so you end up losing shots more often (and krakens have 30" range). Overall they are junk.

 ImAGeek wrote:
I dunno, in terms of weapons they have Bolters that they can swap for Combi-Bolters so I'm guessing these are combi-bolters. They have Banestrike ammo (AP3 on wound rolls of 6's) and preferred enemy:infantry. I don't think they're bad but nothing amazing.

They can all swap their bolters for combi-bolters and one member of the squad can have a bolter replaced with HB on a suspension web. All Banestrike ammo naturally. Plus standard come bolt pistol, power dagger, krak grenades and venom spheres.

Looks like we're going to see a new edition of Blood Bowl fairly soon. Starter has (you guessed it) humans and orcs. The details on that human are soft enough to make me wonder if these are going to be released as plastics. The weird way that orc is broken down also suggests HISP.

From a post on Facebook:

We know?

 zedmeister wrote:
So, no one posted these?

 bubber wrote:
They have in the 40th birthday post as these aren't FW.

Was the answer, so I guess this clarification was welcomed.

Corax's paintjob two pages back looks horrid.

It looks like he's checking out the guy he just shot.

I hope it's just the picture and not the model.

I hope so too.

Maybe some enterprising 3rd Party Studio will eventually make a line of helmeted heads to go on all these Primarchs?

I'm loving the Corax fig and I like the paintjob up to the face. That's just horrendous. They've made him look like some old biddy wearing really bad makeup. Urgghhhh!!!! Pushed the contrasts and the highlights in all the wrong ways.

 Alpharius wrote:
We know?

Yea, well, mine had more pics.

 reds8n wrote:

Ok, I'll bite...what is this glorious piece of armored sexiness?

Masterdon, super heavy SM transport for 30k and hopefully 40k as well. The rules are in the next HH book.

Mastadon, not master.

I'm going to blame my phone even though I'm on my PC.

It should be spelt mastodon like the band, but I understand why FW didn't do that.

 Looky Likey wrote:
I'm going to blame my phone even though I'm on my PC.

It should be spelt mastodon like the band, but I understand why FW didn't do that.

It is Mastodon, presumably (like the band) named after the extinct elephant type creatures.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mastodon

Righto, nudged it a little too far into the other direction there then.

 Looky Likey wrote:
Masterdon, super heavy SM transport for 30k and hopefully 40k as well. The rules are in the next HH book.

Basic premise of the mastodon is that the meltas cut a hole in a forts wall, it then drives into that hole, and front and rear doors open to create an armored tunnel for marines to pile through into the enemy's fort.

xera32 wrote:

 angelofvengeance wrote:
Oh. I don't have that one yet. So are they of any use or what?

They are really bad seekers. you pay 1 melta bomb each to gain HoW, infiltrate (lost if you buy a transport), PE: infantry, and a really gak specialist CCW (s:-1, ap3, rending). You lose PE: 1 unit, option to take combi weapons, and the special ammo (kraken, tempest, and scorpii). You end up paying more for a worse unit, if they could take combi weapons they would be good, but if they can only take combi bolters they are just bad.

You end up taking infiltrate or pods more often in AL so their infiltrate is wasted. The specialist weapon is only marginally better than 2 CCW. HoW can only be used if you don't fire your bolters. Banestike rounds are only marginally better than normal rounds vs MEQ, but have shorter range so you end up losing shots more often (and krakens have 30" range). Overall they are junk.

Do the combi-bolters actually do anything other than make your guys more expensive? With BS5 and preferred enemy you're already rerolling all to hit vs infantry. I guess if you shoot your bolters at non-infantry it would make a difference but for an extra 5 pts a model? Just awful. Am I missing something?

OK another quick question, if the next imperial armour is #16, wth happened to 14 and 15??

They're probably the various other projects that FW has mentioned but hasn't gotten around to. The non-Thousand Son Tzneetch chaos marine army being one.

BOLS is reporting that Leman Russ is the next primarch up on the block (but no pics in the article). I'm excited about that and I really hope they don't give him goofy hair (a definite possibility) or a goofty pose like Corax/Fulgrim.

BLOS are probably going to start reporting that plastic Havoks are up next because I joked about it in a N&R thread.

I wouldn't put my faith in that bell. It rings far too often, and always at the wrong time of day.

One could even say it was the end.

(not sure how well that joke will travel..)

 warboss wrote:
BOLS is reporting that Leman Russ is the next primarch up on the block (but no pics in the article). I'm excited about that and I really hope they don't give him goofy hair (a definite possibility) or a goofty pose like Corax/Fulgrim.

From people who were there, that's not true. I don't think we know who's next but it's not Russ.

I'd reckon probably Dorn or Alpharius, as those are the only ones with rules but no models.

FW team seemed excited about the Space Wolves progress but didnt have anything solid to show at the event, only to say that they were being actively worked on to make them visually distinct.

We know Dorn and Alpharius are next in some order. The BoLS rumor was quoting a guy from BaC who spoke to Tony (no idea) with the latter stating that "Russ is next" though this is more than likely meant to be "we are working on Russ next" which would line up with Dorn and Alpharius being ready for release at some point after Corax. Of course, I could be wrong and FW have actually pushed Russ up the pecking order...

Caederes wrote:
The BoLS rumor was quoting a guy from BaC who spoke to Tony (no idea)...

Most likely - Tony Cottrell