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 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I'll bet the new jetbike unit is just a unit where all the bikes can swap out their heavy bolters for bigger guns.

Oh...oh no. That would be just gross with the Ravenwing and their poisoned HBs. But I am betting you are 100% right on that. Wellllll... time to start my White Scars now!

The current jetbike unit already has heavy bolters, so nothing new there, but only one in three can upgrade to a different heavy weapon. That's why I suspect this new unit can all upgrade their weapons, and might even get some additional rule like Tank Hunters.

Did the Red Books always declare that they were an expansion to Warhammer 40k on the back?

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Did the Red Books always declare that they were an expansion to Warhammer 40k on the back?

I think so - 30k 'Age of Darkness' is technically a 40k expansion.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I'll bet the new jetbike unit is just a unit where all the bikes can swap out their heavy bolters for bigger guns.

Oh...oh no. That would be just gross with the Ravenwing and their poisoned HBs. But I am betting you are 100% right on that. Wellllll... time to start my White Scars now!

The current jetbike unit already has heavy bolters, so nothing new there, but only one in three can upgrade to a different heavy weapon. That's why I suspect this new unit can all upgrade their weapons, and might even get some additional rule like Tank Hunters.

Could also be a new unit with a forthcoming new sculpt. There were rumors of a new jetbike kicking around, IIRC.

beast_gts wrote:

 Deathklaat wrote:
Are the red pages from the new version of the Horus Heresy Legiones Astartes: Crusade Army book?

Age of Darkness Army List - https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-US/blog/blog.jsp?_requestid=16674297

Which is an update of the Legiones Astartes Crusade Army List book.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I'll bet the new jetbike unit is just a unit where all the bikes can swap out their heavy bolters for bigger guns.

You mean like they can already?

Edit: sorry miss understood what you meant. I saw the other post you made now.

Still don't understand why the sentry gun is in fast attack.

It can infiltrate or deep-strike with the right upgrade.

Because Heavy Support is overloaded enough?
I mean they clearly aren't Elite, HS already has artillery of all sizes that can't deep strike and there are other issues with making them Troops.

 BrotherGecko wrote:
Did the Red Books always declare that they were an expansion to Warhammer 40k on the back?

Yes, it says expansion on the back of my copies of the Crusade, Isstvan and Tahgmata books.

Turrets could be Fortifications or a sub-class of that (like, have a list of building upgrades for bigger Fortifications that includes turrets). That'd make a gakload more sense than fast attack!

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I'll bet the new jetbike unit is just a unit where all the bikes can swap out their heavy bolters for bigger guns.

Oh...oh no. That would be just gross with the Ravenwing and their poisoned HBs. But I am betting you are 100% right on that. Wellllll... time to start my White Scars now!

The current jetbike unit already has heavy bolters, so nothing new there, but only one in three can upgrade to a different heavy weapon. That's why I suspect this new unit can all upgrade their weapons, and might even get some additional rule like Tank Hunters.

Sorry, I was unclear. To get Jetbikes with like MMs and Volkites, etc, you had to drop an HB. Now you can get full squads of each, meaning no need to shoot your MM at a tank, wasting HB shots and vice versa.

Provided the rumor is that and not some stealthily added new unit!

Could be a good excuse to introduce a new pattern of jet bike. Something with mkii armour riders for example.

 Lockark wrote:
Could be a good excuse to introduce a new pattern of jet bike. Something with mkii armour riders for example.

Indeed, a 'precursor' to the Tempest perhaps? A single seat, multiple heavy weapons platform?

Not to derail the thread, but has anyone seen what an actual attack bike is supposed to look like?

Have folks just been adding additional weapon mounts to the current jetbikes? I've got the current models for the scimitars, but haven't tried to "convert" to attack bike mode.

30K Attack bikes are like 40k attack bikes. They aren't jetbikes. Some folks use outrider parts to "30K" up the 40K models.

Ah - good point. Didn't think about that when reading them but true enough as I see the unit type.

Tylos Rubio and Blackshield decals today:

https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Knight-Errant-Tylos-Rubio



https://www.forgeworld.co.uk/en-NL/Blackshields-Transfer-Sheet

Those Blackshields decals are awesome!

Are there any notable Blackshield guys in the HH btw?

There's the Reaver Lord (I think that's his name), though he eventually becomes a Knight-Errant (and as such has rules for being used as both).

 Matt.Kingsley wrote:
There's the Reaver Lord (I think that's his name), though he eventually becomes a Knight-Errant (and as such has rules for being used as both).

Which Legion was he from then?

Dark Angels I believe.

And his name is the Nemean Reaver. Confused him with the generic Blackshield Praetor-equivalent.

I do like the Rubio model, might pick him up in my next order. Especially as the pound has dropped 10% overnigh.,

 Tannhauser42 wrote:
I do like the Rubio model, might pick him up in my next order. Especially as the pound has dropped 10% overnigh.,

I will be enjoying Forgeworld's Brexit sale as well!

Obligatory bitching about no Vyronii decals. Sorry, but how long does one have to wait for them to send their perfectly awesome sheet to the effing printers!? Been waiting since September!

Anyhow, enough of that... for now. The Blackshield ones are awesome, but like.... easily four disparate factions on it. Why not do smaller sheets for each unique group? I mean, if I buy this, I am stuck with a slew of decals I will just never use. Same for the Solar Auxilia one, now that I think of it.

Which Blackshiels warband is this?

Those decals are great. I guess I need to find out about these Blackshield factions.

I don't know about warband per se, but the back story basically allows you to use them as renegade/redeemed.

Love the deals though !!!

 Uriels_Flame wrote:
I don't know about warband per se, but the back story basically allows you to use them as renegade/redeemed.

Love the deals though !!!

There are specifically named warbands though. All the symbols on the sheet belong to the ones named in HH6, I believe.

The only Black Shields I know about are the Deathwatch Marines that show up displaying no Chapter iconography.

What are the HH-era Black Shields about?