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 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Just a tiny bit of news here, but most of the scenery kits that were OOP are now back, including the Garden Of Morr http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Garden-of-Morr

Woohoo, that's awesome! This news makes my VC very happy . Hopefully this signals a full return of OOP scenery. *crosses fingers*

Only played 3 times, but our last was the biggest one.

Khorne had 75 I believe (2 groups of 20 bloodletters, 20 Blood Marauder guys, 10 blood warriors, skull portal, big beastie, whip man, mighty lord lord, herald blood letter)

Sigmar had 47 (6 groups of 5 liberators, dracoth rider, lanter guy, gryph hound, lord on foot, 6 bird men, 6 retrbutors, 1 storm/heal banner)

Played the watch tower mission, with Khorne defending the tower with 20 bloodletters. Mission seemed off as You can charge the tower turn 1. Only lasted 3 turns. was more in favor of sigmar

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Just a tiny bit of news here, but most of the scenery kits that were OOP are now back, including the Garden Of Morr http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Garden-of-Morr

Glad I still occasionally follow the AoS rumour thread for this post alone! Just purchased a Garden of Morr on their website now Been wanting one for ages but left it too late and was gutted when it disappeared a few months ago. Big kudos for that post

 Azreal13 wrote:

Age Of Sigmar Core Rules wrote: Typically, a game with around a hundred miniatures per side will last for about an evening

I'm quite aware that one can project a variety of interpretations onto this, and I'm sure someone will come back and say 'but that's only an example' but I'd argue the reason this size of game was offered as an example was to plant an idea into players' heads that this is the size of game they should be playing.

It also says that you can play it with as many models as you like in the same paragraph But yeah, I agree -- this is probably the largest number of models I'd ever want to pls (most people don't want a game LONGER than an evening).

The biggest problem with AoS and big model count games, I think, is that the models can really hoof out across the board, so for any given model count, you need a bigger table than a lot of other games.

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Price is exactly the same IIRC.

YASSSSSSS! Need to purchase this

 Talys wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

Age Of Sigmar Core Rules wrote: Typically, a game with around a hundred miniatures per side will last for about an evening

I'm quite aware that one can project a variety of interpretations onto this, and I'm sure someone will come back and say 'but that's only an example' but I'd argue the reason this size of game was offered as an example was to plant an idea into players' heads that this is the size of game they should be playing.

It also says that you can play it with as many models as you like in the same paragraph But yeah, I agree -- this is probably the largest number of models I'd ever want to pls (most people don't want a game LONGER than an evening).

The biggest problem with AoS and big model count games, I think, is that the models can really hoof out across the board, so for any given model count, you need a bigger table than a lot of other games.

Exactly...now if only they came up with a way to put the units together, maybe some form of organised unit standing shoulder to shoulder so it wouldn't take up so much room...........

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Just a tiny bit of news here, but most of the scenery kits that were OOP are now back, including the Garden Of Morr http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Garden-of-Morr

Awww yusss

Daston wrote:

 Talys wrote:

 Azreal13 wrote:

Age Of Sigmar Core Rules wrote: Typically, a game with around a hundred miniatures per side will last for about an evening

I'm quite aware that one can project a variety of interpretations onto this, and I'm sure someone will come back and say 'but that's only an example' but I'd argue the reason this size of game was offered as an example was to plant an idea into players' heads that this is the size of game they should be playing.

It also says that you can play it with as many models as you like in the same paragraph But yeah, I agree -- this is probably the largest number of models I'd ever want to pls (most people don't want a game LONGER than an evening).

The biggest problem with AoS and big model count games, I think, is that the models can really hoof out across the board, so for any given model count, you need a bigger table than a lot of other games.

Exactly...now if only they came up with a way to put the units together, maybe some form of organised unit standing shoulder to shoulder so it wouldn't take up so much room...........

Well lets hope not.
A game can really be any size. My rotbringers have 24 models and i have faced off against between 15 - 130 models. With sudden death I've never felt I'm at a disadvantage and even not using sudden death I cant say I'm worried either way.

As for on topic the liberators box could have been less though id likely buy one to convert up the liberators I have from my second starter set

 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Just a tiny bit of news here, but most of the scenery kits that were OOP are now back, including the Garden Of Morr http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Garden-of-Morr

Glad I still occasionally follow the AoS rumour thread for this post alone! Just purchased a Garden of Morr on their website now Been wanting one for ages but left it too late and was gutted when it disappeared a few months ago. Big kudos for that post

Still no fortified mansion :( we missed out that by a couple of days. Fingers crossed it comes back.

I have noticed that some of the 8th edition kits are getting new boxes with round bases :(

Garden of Morr can mean only one thing- re-packaged Nagash and co. just around the corner??

Daston wrote:

 Lt. Donomar StubbornBull wrote:

 Thraxas Of Turai wrote:
Just a tiny bit of news here, but most of the scenery kits that were OOP are now back, including the Garden Of Morr http://www.games-workshop.com/en-GB/Garden-of-Morr

Glad I still occasionally follow the AoS rumour thread for this post alone! Just purchased a Garden of Morr on their website now Been wanting one for ages but left it too late and was gutted when it disappeared a few months ago. Big kudos for that post

Still no fortified mansion :( we missed out that by a couple of days. Fingers crossed it comes back.

I have noticed that some of the 8th edition kits are getting new boxes with round bases :(

I doubt we'll see any of the really good stuff come back(Fortified Manor/Chapel/Skullvane Manse/the better two of the three towers), even if GW for some reason wanted to trigger nostalgia for the Old World in people they want to either drive away or convert into AoS fans, the moulds could be worn-out/intentionally destroyed by now. I'd love it if they did, I'd buy Skullvane Manse in a heartbeat, but it's not very likely.

@Thraxas Of Turai - How did you *find* Garden of Morr? It comes up when you search it, but if you click Scenery or Sigmar, and try to browse for it, the kit never comes up. It's a cool kit that has more stuff in it than it looks like from the box. Tons of conversion potential and bits. I'm glad it's available again.

Incidentally, it does NOT come up in Canada.


@Yodhrin - it's funny you should mention Skullvane Manse. I picked one up at a moving sale at a local hobby shop the other day for USD $39

I've actually done really well for Fantasy scenery recently, because a bunch of nearby hobby shops have been clearing out their old stuff in favor of AoS scenery, and I've been picking it up for 50% -- sometimes of a really outdated price.

 Talys wrote:
@Thraxas Of Turai - How did you *find* Garden of Morr? It comes up when you search it, but if you click Scenery or Sigmar, and try to browse for it, the kit never comes up. It's a cool kit that has more stuff in it than it looks like from the box. Tons of conversion potential and bits. I'm glad it's available again.

Incidentally, it does NOT come up in Canada.

Yeah I couldn't find it either.

That reminds me... I need to build mine. Need to find it first though...

 H.B.M.C. wrote:

Yeah I couldn't find it either.

That reminds me... I need to build mine. Need to find it first though...

Edited -- I misread, thought you were trying to find it online, not in your collection

Anyhow, friend of mine just let me know it was in Sweden too. But doesn't seem to be in US, Canada, or Australia.

 Talys wrote:
@Thraxas Of Turai - How did you *find* Garden of Morr? It comes up when you search it, but if you click Scenery or Sigmar, and try to browse for it, the kit never comes up. It's a cool kit that has more stuff in it than it looks like from the box. Tons of conversion potential and bits. I'm glad it's available again.

Incidentally, it does NOT come up in Canada

Simply AOS tab and then the scenery tab and it is under the "Age Of Sigmar Scenery" bit. I hope it makes it over to your part of the World.

Incidentally I was able to pick up the Garden of Morr from my local GW about 4 weeks ago after they found one in the store room, it is a great little kit.

Unfortunately it looks like only the Arcane Fulcrums from Storm of Magic are back here is Australia (and maybe the Walls and Fences/Unbundled Citadel Wood. I can't remember if they were there before).

Witchfate Tor is still listed as No Longer Available. I'd wish they'd go ahead and remove it already. It gets my hopes up every time only to dash them.

 Talys wrote:


I've actually done really well for Fantasy scenery recently, because a bunch of nearby hobby shops have been clearing out their old stuff in favor of AoS scenery, and I've been picking it up for 50% -- sometimes of a really outdated price.

I tried this tactic at a local store that usually keps some old stuff on their shelfs, but basicly all of the nice scenery has been gone for a couple of months. Got their last chapel a few months back, and managed to get the last large wizard tower the other day.

 Talys wrote:
@Thraxas Of Turai - How did you *find* Garden of Morr? It comes up when you search it, but if you click Scenery or Sigmar, and try to browse for it, the kit never comes up. It's a cool kit that has more stuff in it than it looks like from the box. Tons of conversion potential and bits. I'm glad it's available again.

Incidentally, it does NOT come up in Canada.


@Yodhrin - it's funny you should mention Skullvane Manse. I picked one up at a moving sale at a local hobby shop the other day for USD $39

I've actually done really well for Fantasy scenery recently, because a bunch of nearby hobby shops have been clearing out their old stuff in favor of AoS scenery, and I've been picking it up for 50% -- sometimes of a really outdated price.

That's nice. Sadly in the UK we don't have nearly as many indie stores - I've rung literally every GW & non-GW store within cost-effective train riding distance and all the good terrain(basically everything except Witchfate Tor) has been sold out for ages. Since the only other option is paying £150+ on ebay, seems I'll have to do without.

Yod let me make a few enquiries I'm sure I know there's a couple somewhere I'm fairly sure I saw one not long ago. I can't promise completely but if I locate one ill let you know

I bought the last Garden of Morr in Poland a few days ago, found it on 30th page of google search after wading through countless gardening offers. No such luck witch chapel/ watchtower sadly so here's hoping those will be back.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Talys wrote:
@Thraxas Of Turai - How did you *find* Garden of Morr? It comes up when you search it, but if you click Scenery or Sigmar, and try to browse for it, the kit never comes up. It's a cool kit that has more stuff in it than it looks like from the box. Tons of conversion potential and bits. I'm glad it's available again.

Incidentally, it does NOT come up in Canada.


@Yodhrin - it's funny you should mention Skullvane Manse. I picked one up at a moving sale at a local hobby shop the other day for USD $39

I've actually done really well for Fantasy scenery recently, because a bunch of nearby hobby shops have been clearing out their old stuff in favor of AoS scenery, and I've been picking it up for 50% -- sometimes of a really outdated price.

That's nice. Sadly in the UK we don't have nearly as many indie stores - I've rung literally every GW & non-GW store within cost-effective train riding distance and all the good terrain(basically everything except Witchfate Tor) has been sold out for ages. Since the only other option is paying £150+ on ebay, seems I'll have to do without.

I think I might have seen one on the shelves at the GW or "Warhammer" on Union Street in Glasgow. Not sure if you have already called there but it might be worth a shot if you haven't.

Just noticed more pics from the WD from BoLS. Some of these look really sharp! I love the one with the bow & arrow and the bird. It's a very convincing pose, IMO.





http://www.belloflostsouls.net/2015/09/stormcast-eternal-prosecutor-pics-arrive.html

Those are pretty cool. Would probably go with the bow since I've already got a lantern guy.

Still waiting for my dreadnought sized Stormcast armor.

Cupid doesn't feth around in Age of Sigmar!

Pretty cool looking to be fair

Your #1 rumour monger checking in with another great update:

Knight-Venator
Move 12"
Wounds 5
Bravery 9
Save 3+
Missile Weapons:
Realmhunter's Bow Range 30" / Attacks 3 / 2+ to hit / 3+ to wound / Rend -1 / Damage 1
Star-eagle's Celestial Talons Range 30" / Attacks 3 / 4+ to hit / 3+ to wound / Rend 0 / Damage 1
Melee Weapons:
Star-eagle's Celestial Talons Range 1" / Attacks 3 / 2+ to hit / 3+ to wound / Rend 0 / Damage 1
Fly
Celestial Talons
To wound rolls of a 6 for the Star-eagle's Talons have a Rend value of -3
Arrow of Astral Fate
Once per battle you can fire this arrow during your shooting phase. If you do this, the Realmhunter's Bow has an Attack value of 1 instead of 3, but a Damage value of d3+3 or, when targeting a Hero or Monster, d6+3.
Knight-Azyros
Move 12"
Wounds 5
Bravery 9
Save 3+
Melee Weapons:
Starblade Range 1" / Attacks 4 / 3+ to hit / 3+ to wound / Rend -1 / Damage 1
Fly
Bane of the Lost
During the shooting phase you may reroll to hit rolls of 1 against enemy units that are within 10" of this model.
Finder of Paths
Stormcast Eternals using the 'Lightning Strike' (provided by the Battalion rules) to deploy after the game has begun may always deploy within 5" of this model, even if that means that they deploy within 9 of the enemy.
Light of Sigmar
Once per game you can use this during your hero phase. If you do so, this model can't move, charge or pile in. Every enemy unit within 8" of this model instantly suffers d3 Mortal Wounds. Chaos units instead suffer d6 Mortal Wounds
Prosecutors with stormcall javalins and with celestial hammers are both prosecutors, but have separate warscrolls. They're all in units of 3 and a special weapon on 1 in 3. Both have:
Move 12"
Wounds 2
Bravery 6
Save 4+
Fly
Heralds of Righteousness
Roll 3d6 instead of 2d6 when charging.
Sigmarite Shields
Reroll failed save rolls of 1.
And then, javalin dudes are javelin/shield, with option for a trident. Prime does 2 attacks in the shooting phase.
Missile Weapons:
Stormcall Javelin Range 18" / Attacks 1 / 3+ to hit / 3+ to wound / Rend 0 / Damage 1
Stormsurge Trident Range 18" / Attacks 1 / 3+ to hit / 3+ to wound / Rend -1 / Damage 2
Melee Weapons:
Stormcall Javelin Range 2" / Attacks 1 / 4+ to hit / 4+ to wound / Rend 0 / Damage 1
Stormsurge Trident Range 2" / Attacks 1 / 4+ to hit / 4+ to wound / Rend -1 / Damage 2
Stormcall Javelins
When attacking an enemy 9" or more away from the shooting model, this weapon has a Damage value of 2 instead of 1.
Hammer dudes are double hammer or hammer/shield, with options for grandweapons. Prime does 3 attacks in the melee phase.
Missile Weapons:
Celestial Hammers Range 18" / Attacks 2 / 4+ to hit / 4+ to wound / Rend 0 / Damage 1
Melee Weapons:
Celestial Hammers Range 1" / Attacks 2 / 3+ to hit / 3+ to wound / Rend 0 / Damage 1
Grandblade Range 1" / Attacks 2 / 3+ to hit / 4+ to wound / Rend -1 / Damage 2
Grandhammer Range 1" / Attacks 2 / 4+ to hit / 3+ to wound / Rend -1 / Damage 2
Grandaxe Range 1" / Attacks (see below) / 3+ to hit / 3+ to wound / Rend -1 / Damage 1
Celestial Hammers
When armed with more than one Celestial Hammer a model may reroll failed to hit rolls of 1.
Cleaving Strike
Pick a target unit for a model with a Grandaxe and do one attack against each model of that unit in range of this weapon.

TrollSlayerThorak'Khun'Na wrote:
Your #1 rumour monger checking in with another great update:

Who?


Also, traditionally, once the WD pics leak it isn't really a rumor anymore.

I ordered my Gardens of Morr today. Pretty sure they just found some in a warehouse as it is unlisted right? I can't find it in the general scenery sections so I don't think it'll be back for long.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Oh, weirdly if you go Scenery > Age of Sigmar it is unlisted, but if you go Age of Sigmar > Scenery, it's there :-p

Anyone have info as to if we will see dracolith cavalry or what the Stormcast Eternal "monster" will be?

I see even with the rumors that we are missing a wizard... which can sometimes be a needed buff or necessary for cancelling opponent's spells.

 455_PWR wrote:
Anyone have info as to if we will see dracolith cavalry or what the Stormcast Eternal "monster" will be?

I see even with the rumors that we are missing a wizard... which can sometimes be a needed buff or necessary for cancelling opponent's spells.

I think we're unlikely to see Dracolith cavalry as they've made a special point of saying the one being ridden by the starter set bod is the first of his kind to cooperate with the sigmarites (although since this is an evolving world this could change)

as for big monsters that was, I belive, the big floaty stormcast guy and the even bigger price tag