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2015/11/27 11:51:38
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
Well I am buying 2 and archon may not be on either. One will need to be walking not.. Floating on tails.
But I will need to get my christmass back log done first chaos reaver skarbrand, two more blood thristers and a baneblade :-( . So maybe I will be able to buy them discounted somewhere by then lol.
P.s. I love the model and think the problem is they took the picture of the monster not archon. If you notice the beast is the focus point they are going for not archy. The model is amazing and well made no one can argue that the perportions and scale is not beautiful. All those who said the old one is where it is at must not own it. He rides a freaking minecraft horse the horse is litterally made from squares.
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2015/11/27 14:41:51
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
“It was in lands of the Chi-An where she finally ran him to ground. There she kissed him deeply as he lay dying, and so stole from him his last, agonized breath.
On a delicate chain at her throat, she keeps it with her to this day.”
2015/11/27 22:16:49
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
I picked up my White Dwarf today, and looked at the photos of the Archaon model. I have to say that I'm a lot less in love with it than when I first saw it. I love every part of the model, but when put together, I don't like the whole of the model -- it's just too busy. It does look HUGE.
2015/11/27 22:39:06
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
Sad Panda wrote: Tyranids in January is nonsense. Fyreslayers.
Imp. Guard in February is nonsense. Space Wolves.
Not counting possible 1-week things (think Seraphon), only multi-week releases.
So "fyreslayers" (red-haired dwarf slayers?) in January... hopefully some new non-marine / Khorne models, at least!
More than "red-haired dwarf slayers".
We've seen a picture or two of them in the big AoS book. They literally have beards and hair of fire, and the one image we got of a Fyreslayer? He was fighting a gigantic firedrake.
It was preeeeeeeeettty awesome.
2015/11/27 22:55:34
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
They are not Chaos Dwarfs, right? Is there already anything about their fluff in current books? A major release will be more than some reboxed dwarfs I guess.
2015/11/27 22:59:46
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
Warhams-77 wrote: They are not Chaos Dwarfs, right? Is there already anything about their fluff in current books? A major release will be more than some reboxed dwarfs I guess.
Fyreslayers will do anything for Ur-Gold. That's their fluff so far.
Sad Panda wrote: Tyranids in January is nonsense. Fyreslayers.
Imp. Guard in February is nonsense. Space Wolves.
Not counting possible 1-week things (think Seraphon), only multi-week releases.
So "fyreslayers" (red-haired dwarf slayers?) in January... hopefully some new non-marine / Khorne models, at least!
More than "red-haired dwarf slayers".
We've seen a picture or two of them in the big AoS book. They literally have beards and hair of fire, and the one image we got of a Fyreslayer? He was fighting a gigantic firedrake.
It was preeeeeeeeettty awesome.
There is another picture of them (I think in the first big book) and they just look like regular slayers, but with darker red hair than before.
We've seen a picture or two of them in the big AoS book. They literally have beards and hair of fire, and the one image we got of a Fyreslayer? He was fighting a gigantic firedrake.
It was preeeeeeeeettty awesome.
Agree on the evaluation, but I think that pic is supposed to be Grimnir, no?
“It was in lands of the Chi-An where she finally ran him to ground. There she kissed him deeply as he lay dying, and so stole from him his last, agonized breath.
On a delicate chain at her throat, she keeps it with her to this day.”
2015/11/28 00:24:14
Subject: Re:Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
Surprisingly even the GW blog is on time and they have posted his video already
Also 12" high... wow
The release of Archaon is a momentous event, and what better way to celebrate than with the largest plastic kit we've ever made for Warhammer. 12" in height, from Dorghar's tail to the tip of his claws, and with a wingspan almost as wide, Archaon will dominate any battlefield he fights on, a colossal champion of Chaos and an incredible painting challenge to boot. As destroyer of the world-that-was and conqueror of the Mortal Realms, Archaon has been rewarded countless times by the Chaos Gods, becoming massive in stature and unstoppable in power, a giant amongst men. In one hand he carries a huge shield – part of the Armour of Morkar – blessed by the Chaos Gods. In the other burns the Slayer of Kings, a Daemon sword into which is bound the soul of an enslaved Bloodthirster. Yet his most impressive gift is surely his steed Dorghar, a triple-headed Daemon of immense power and strength that carries the Exalted Grand Marshal of the Apocalypse into battle.
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The reason why AoS figures cost so much more than the WHFB is simply that GW expect to sell less of them due to smaller army size, and also need to make up the money of lost sales of rules and army books.
People complained that WHFB is too expensive to start a new army (of okay-ish size) and now we get a game that needs fewer models but they cost more. I don't know if that idea would have helped even if they just had released WHFB+1 instead of AOS.
Archaon (like most of their new releases) just looks big and busy but not interesting (and his hat got bigger), although I am curious what 12 inch leader/monster they will release for other factions (if they all follow a similar size inflation for centerpiece models). Elves will probably get somebody on a dragon and orcs a wyvern but what about dwarves (some machine, a god?) or goblins (giant squig, giant, big spider?)?
2015/11/28 00:45:10
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
BlaxicanX wrote: A young business man named Tom Kirby, who was a pupil of mine until he turned greedy, helped the capitalists hunt down and destroy the wargamers. He betrayed and murdered Games Workshop.
2015/11/28 00:53:52
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
The reason why AoS figures cost so much more than the WHFB is simply that GW expect to sell less of them due to smaller army size, and also need to make up the money of lost sales of rules and army books.
People complained that WHFB is too expensive to start a new army (of okay-ish size) and now we get a game that needs fewer models but they cost more. I don't know if that idea would have helped even if they just had released WHFB+1 instead of AOS.
Archaon (like most of their new releases) just looks big and busy but not interesting (and his hat got bigger), although I am curious what 12 inch leader/monster they will release for other factions (if they all follow a similar size inflation for centerpiece models). Elves will probably get somebody on a dragon and orcs a wyvern but what about dwarves (some machine, a god?) or goblins (giant squig, giant, big spider?)?
The models cost more, but you don't need as any. The startup cost IS cheaper, and might even be comparable to Warmahordes. In my opinion, they're higher quality than Warmahordes (50$ for 10 Cryx Bane Thralls, which have 3 or 4 poses between them. Apparently costs 8 points so you could get rolling with a box of those, a Warcaster, and some 'Jacks. Not sure what the price is to get it to 15 points and I've never played the game. Anyways, compare that to 62$ for 10 plastic Blood Warriors with various options and the rest of the same old arguments made to justify GW prices and I honestly think the Blood Warriors are the better deal for what you get. Phew, this parenthetical aside got long.)
Not sure how they could have cut startup costs for WHFB sans removing Horde rules (but granting goblins, skaven, zombies, etc special rules to emulate Horde bonuses) and reducing minimum size of rank to gain rank bonus like in older editions. Even then, I feel like units of 20 would still be considered "minimum" for effectiveness, which means most kits are looking at 2 boxes for a single unit.
AoS may not be your (or anybody's?) cup of tea but the startup costs are vastly reduced.
Anyways, have they hinted at other factions getting big 12 inch leaders? It seems very... GW to make Archaon a huge, "exciting" model and then shaft everyone else, because of Chaos.
The release of Archaon is a momentous event, and what better way to celebrate than with the largest plastic kit we've ever made for Warhammer. 12" in height, from Dorghar's tail to the tip of his claws, and with a wingspan almost as wide, Archaon will dominate any battlefield he fights on, a colossal champion of Chaos and an incredible painting challenge to boot. As destroyer of the world-that-was and conqueror of the Mortal Realms, Archaon has been rewarded countless times by the Chaos Gods, becoming massive in stature and unstoppable in power, a giant amongst men. In one hand he carries a huge shield – part of the Armour of Morkar – blessed by the Chaos Gods. In the other burns the Slayer of Kings, a Daemon sword into which is bound the soul of an enslaved Bloodthirster. Yet his most impressive gift is surely his steed Dorghar, a triple-headed Daemon of immense power and strength that carries the Exalted Grand Marshal of the Apocalypse into battle.
Man, I love when rumor mongers are creative with their hints like this . See Sad Panda's hint from a month ago:
Sad Panda wrote: I think people still underestimate how much GW is into AoS. AoS is going to be big - very big - for christmas. And early 2016. AoS is still the main show.
Nice
2015/11/28 07:28:41
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
Automatically Appended Next Post: The first real AoS release!
Except the whole Stormcast range, of course...
Stormcast don't count I'm afraid.
They entirely count as a real Age of Sigmar release...
Hey, some people still hold out hope when it is their armies that get updated GW will not focus on the new golden boys, nor only give you a few units for 1 of your 4 subfactions, nor just throw a book out with no units. No no, when it is their turn to get an update GW will update everything and it will all look great! Right?
Fafnir wrote: Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that.
2015/11/28 09:49:24
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
Yep. I would never buy a Stormcast model, and I collect Order, Death and Destruction ( - not chaos), so this marks the first real release. And I am excited!
The fire-slayers mark the first considerable change for an existing WHFB order faction (as the Seraphon and Sylvaneth only got a fluff update).
Of course if GW just repackage the old slayers with round bases, I'll be giving this a skip. Something tells me that is not what's gonna happen though.
Bye bye Dakkadakka, happy hobbying! I really enjoyed my time on here. Opinions were always my own :-)
2015/11/28 09:58:58
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
Archaon is HUGE. I believe this is the first (but certainly not the last) model to use 160mm round base. The base itself has been available separately for a while.
That place is the harsh dark future far left with only war left.
2015/11/28 10:01:09
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
Mymearan wrote: 12"???? Uhm, an Imperial Knight is 8"... A Warhound 10-12"... This guy is Titan sized.
Actually a knight is 6.5inches. Nagash is, I believe 10inches to the top if his staff. This is comfortably the tallest plastic miniature gw has made. The wing span is about 9 or 10 inches
2015/11/28 10:17:02
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
Mymearan wrote: 12"???? Uhm, an Imperial Knight is 8"... A Warhound 10-12"... This guy is Titan sized.
Actually a knight is 6.5inches. Nagash is, I believe 10inches to the top if his staff. This is comfortably the tallest plastic miniature gw has made. The wing span is about 9 or 10 inches
How tall is a Wraithknight? They might be as tall/taller.
2015/11/28 10:21:56
Subject: Age of Sigmar News & Rumours page 53 new Archaon pics
Mymearan wrote: 12"???? Uhm, an Imperial Knight is 8"... A Warhound 10-12"... This guy is Titan sized.
Actually a knight is 6.5inches. Nagash is, I believe 10inches to the top if his staff. This is comfortably the tallest plastic miniature gw has made. The wing span is about 9 or 10 inches
Yup, this guy is like a dreadnought riding an Imperial knight, so the pricing looks like a baragin, right?
Not sure what we try to prove here...
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ImAGeek wrote: Ah so basically Stormcast weren't a real release because you don't collect them? Got it
Stormcast were just part of the setting, I guess.
And the khorne guys were always there, its just that they got a huge update and their own faction.
If the two previously released armies has been a dissapointment, I dont think people will care much for the dwarfs either.
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Of course.
with lots of possibilites for expansion
