Concerned for the next Generation

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**VorpalBunny74**

Yeah, I'm the same with my daughter - I just hope in trying to avoid the mistakes our parents made, I don't make even worse ones.

**whembly**

VorpalBunny74 wrote:
Yeah, I'm the same with my daughter - I just hope in trying to avoid the mistakes our parents made, I don't make even worse ones.

^This... keep that perspective and you'll be fine.

**VorpalBunny74**

whembly wrote:
VorpalBunny74 wrote:
Yeah, I'm the same with my daughter - I just hope in trying to avoid the mistakes our parents made, I don't make even worse ones.
^This... keep that perspective and you'll be fine.

Going good so far!

**whembly**

VorpalBunny74 wrote:
whembly wrote:
VorpalBunny74 wrote:
Yeah, I'm the same with my daughter - I just hope in trying to avoid the mistakes our parents made, I don't make even worse ones.
^This... keep that perspective and you'll be fine.
Going good so far!

Glad to hear.

I have two squiggies 9 and 11 years old...

God save me, the teenage years are coming.

Squeeze out your time with your kids... it's cliche but they sure as hell grow up fast.

'Tis why I'm taking them to Disney / Universal Studios this fall.

**Ensis Ferrae**

VorpalBunny74 wrote:
Yeah, I'm the same with my daughter - I just hope in trying to avoid the mistakes our parents made, I don't make even worse ones.

I think that's what all "good" parents generally try to do... remember you had the parents who grew up getting whooped for seemingly everything, raised kids in the "participation trophy" generation. Now, those of us who caught part of that, are trying to find a happy medium between self-esteem and discipline.

**sebster**

VorpalBunny74 wrote:
Yeah, I'm the same with my daughter - I just hope in trying to avoid the mistakes our parents made, I don't make even worse ones.

Honestly, I’ll be really happy if I can be as good a parent to my kid as my parents were to me.

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Ensis Ferrae wrote:
I think that's what all "good" parents generally try to do... remember you had the parents who grew up getting whooped for seemingly everything, raised kids in the "participation trophy" generation. Now, those of us who caught part of that, are trying to find a happy medium between self-esteem and discipline.

And this generation is the involvement generation. Your kids aren't to have a kick around with friends, they're organised in sports teams and the parents will be there to watch them play. Your kids get homework you have to go through it with them. I can see how it's come about, with people looking to high investment parent and all that and it isn't all bad, but just watch as our kids pledge to give their kids some freedom

**hotsauceman1**

Im curious when I have kids what the style will be TBH.

**Ensis Ferrae**

sebster wrote:

And this generation is the involvement generation. Your kids aren't to have a kick around with friends, they're organised in sports teams and the parents will be there to watch them play. Your kids get homework you have to go through it with them. I can see how it's come about, with people looking to high investment parent and all that and it isn't all bad, but just watch as our kids pledge to give their kids some freedom

I can see the sports thing a bit... I know that when I played football, my dad never once missed a game, and he only missed one track meet due to work, because he supported my playing the sport.

As for the homework thing, I know once my daughter figured out how to read on her own, we simply ask her to read the instructions to us, explain what she's supposed to do, and let her do it. Sometimes we'll do a spot check after she says she's done to make sure she ain't lyin (she hasn't yet, about homework)

**rowboatjellyfanxiii**

Chongara wrote:
rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
I am seriously concerned about the next generation of kids, growing up in this world.
I feel that labels for everything is NOT what to do because it gives them excuses to be little gaks.
Parents are getting softer (Except my family as a whole) and not putting their foot down.

Its why I hate alot of people my age, the spoilt gaks. For my miniatures? I have to go out at 7 am EVERY DAY (Even weekends) and deliver papers for £30 a week so my dependent stepfather and my mother wh cares for him have an extra 30 pounds.

Its these people who say that what I do is a waste of money when to be honest it's cheaper than buying the new iPhone every year since I have no debts or contracts to go with that.

What are your thoughts Dakka?

My thoughts are you're aiming to potentially miss out on a lot fun years in your life. I'm guessing from the "my age", paper delivery and stepfather talk you're roughly about... high school age. There are a lot of potential good friends and great times to be had with those "spoilt gaks" but you'll not have any of either if you just sit wallowing around in smug righteous indignation.

You know what dude? Those folks all have their own lives and their own problems and maybe they just enjoy playing some games, or looking at the friends photos or whatever. Also I'm willing to be 9/10 chance the only reason they brought up you "wasting money" is because you went trash-talking their candy ninja or their fruit crush, or flappyville or whatever with some talk about how your hobbies require real skill or art or other crap.

The current generation is fine, the future generation is fine. It's mostly filled with good people who just want to get along in life and have some fun. De-clench your teeth a little bit, relax your butt and maybe just try to have a good time without looking down on anyone. Eh? Give it a try?

Nope, completely unprovoked, all I said was I started playing 40k and suddenly everyone hates me.
Humanity is weird.

**toasteroven**

Wait, who hates you? Did I miss something?

**rowboatjellyfanxiii**

Basically people think that playing 40k is a waste of time.
So is downloading whatever drivel Ketchapp come out with next.

**Frazzled**

VorpalBunny74 wrote:
Isn't anyone else just. . . quietly hopeful about the next generation? I'm optimistic.

Don't worry. Life will fix that.

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whembly wrote:
VorpalBunny74 wrote:
Yeah, I'm the same with my daughter - I just hope in trying to avoid the mistakes our parents made, I don't make even worse ones.

^This... keep that perspective and you'll be fine.

But remember, once they hit teenager, they make mistakes you can't control or teach for.

happens.

**rowboatjellyfanxiii**

Frazzled wrote:
VorpalBunny74 wrote:
Isn't anyone else just. . . quietly hopeful about the next generation? I'm optimistic.

Don't worry. Life will fix that.

In the grim darkness of the Third Millenium, there is only pessimism.
/AughSchiyett

**kronk**

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
Basically people think that playing 40k is a waste of time.
So is downloading whatever drivel Ketchapp come out with next.

Is this an "I got picked on and therefore all kids suck" thread?

WTF is Ketchapp? Some youtube loser? Actually, I don't want to know.

Play what you like. Don't apologize to anyone, and if someone gives you lip, make a pass at their mom.

**rowboatjellyfanxiii**

kronk wrote:
rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
Basically people think that playing 40k is a waste of time.
So is downloading whatever drivel Ketchapp come out with next.

Is this an "I got picked on and therefore all kids suck" thread?

WTF is Ketchapp? Some youtube loser? Actually, I don't want to know.

Play what you like. Don't apologize to anyone, and if someone gives you lip, make a pass at their mom.

Ketchapp made mobile games like dont touch the spikes and zigzag and "aa" or something.

And no, I was just proving a point that I'm concerned.
I also refuse to sink to their level with immature "your mum" comments.

**Frazzled**

This is Kronk. He;s not saying insult their moms...

Kronk, keeping Europe's population steady since 1993.

**cincydooley**

ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
d-usa wrote:
I can fall in both the Generation X and Millennial groups.

I must suck twice as bad as the other generations.
I'm the same way. I'm right on the edge as far as birth years go, but my upbringing and how I identify is definitely more Generation X than Millennial.

Thats the thing, isn't it?

I think many of us that do fall in that "gap" can see a clear difference in how we were raised vs. how many in the Millennial generation were raised.

I think the biggest difference I see is the move from Parent as Parent to Parent as Buddy.

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Experiment 626 wrote:
inside at the little café area of the supermarket. Large, high ceiling buildings can make for some great echo chambers when kids are determined to be as huge of a menace as they possibly can be!

I don't expect total silence, but for feth's sake, there's times I want to murder some of these so-called parents who let their kids run around while you're carrying trays of hot food, or else ignore their infant/toddler who's been screaming at the top of their lungs for 10+ minutes because they're too busy texting.

Ahhhh. Well that changes everything.

I'm NOT a fan of that. We're lucky in that ours doesn't (yet) make any public scenes, and is very good at restaurants, but the one time she was fussy we asked to have our food boxed, got the check, and left.

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hotsauceman1 wrote:
Im curious when I have kids what the style will be TBH.

When, eh?

**hotsauceman1**

While you obviously plan, I don't want kids til later in life. And it seems that trends change every couple of years.

**Crazy_Carnifex**

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
kronk wrote:
rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
Basically people think that playing 40k is a waste of time.
So is downloading whatever drivel Ketchapp come out with next.

Is this an "I got picked on and therefore all kids suck" thread?

WTF is Ketchapp? Some youtube loser? Actually, I don't want to know.

Play what you like. Don't apologize to anyone, and if someone gives you lip, make a pass at their mom.

Ketchapp made mobile games like dont touch the spikes and zigzag and "aa" or something.

And no, I was just proving a point that I'm concerned.
I also refuse to sink to their level with immature "your mum" comments.

You'll understand when you're older

**The Deathless Host**

Being less than 18 I may sound a little hypocritical but yeah my generation contains some of the worst people I have ever met; perhaps its just the fact that I went to private school for most of my life but the majority of people my age seem to be interested in 3 things; sex, drugs and alcohol. Sure their young blah blah but most of them have 0 idea what they want to do and a few just plan to sponge around until their parents die and they inherit the money/business... Hey just the observations of a 17 year old public school boy.

**Cheesecat**

The Deathless Host wrote:
but the majority of people my age seem to be interested in 3 things; sex, drugs and alcohol.

Yeah, most people like to have fun.

**Bullockist**

and that's people of every age...

**Cheesecat**

Bullockist wrote:
and that's people of every age...

Yeah, gramps like his Viagra and whiskey too.

**hotsauceman1**

Wasnt "Sex, Drugs and Rock 'n Roll" a rallying cry for an entire generation?

**Steve steveson**

The Deathless Host wrote:
my generation contains some of the worst people I have ever met;

That's because your not 18 yet. All adults are on best behaviour around you. Wait until you get out in to the real world and start interacting with them as equals.

the majority of people my age seem to be interested in 3 things; sex, drugs and alcohol. Sure their young blah blah but most of them have 0 idea what they want to do and a few just plan to sponge around until their parents die and they inherit the money/business...

Sounds like most 17 year olds ever. Most don't know what they want to do, and those that do vs rapt get a hell of a shock when their plans meat reality. I know two people whos life is even vaguely where they planed at age 17, and one of those hates the job they trained for and is actively looking for a change, and she is 27 and has only been at it for 5 years (following post grad education).

As for the sex, drugs and alcohol, that's not just 17 year olds. I'm 35 and I still have my fair shair of interest in two. Three if you include an unhealthy plasticrack problem. Like most people the drugs fell by the wayside when the legal realities and effect on work forced me to.

**Crimson Heretic**

the world is what me made it..whats the marilyn manson quote "light a candle on the earth we made into hell and hope it reaches heaven"

**SagesStone**

My plan for when I finally get around to children in a couple years is to try to keep them respectful and not that crybaby style of "respect", but actual respect.

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
Basically people think that playing 40k is a waste of time.
So is downloading whatever drivel Ketchapp come out with next.

You give too much value to the words of people who don't matter in your life. Plus value is really subjective, something they value more would be worthless to you etc. Doesn't matter, no one really cares.

**BlaxicanX**

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:
Basically people think that playing 40k is a waste of time.
So is downloading whatever drivel Ketchapp come out with next.

Playing 40K is a waste of time. The rules are gak and overpriced, the models are overpriced and there are better options in the hobby.

But that's a conclusion you should arrive at yourself, not from being pressured by others.

**Selym**

rowboatjellyfanxiii wrote:

When you're poor for 10 years with no reliable father figure in a deadend estate on the streets of London, you learn to behave.

Really? Over here in Hertfordshire, it seems to be the other way around.

We have a bit of a chav epidemic.

**rowboatjellyfanxiii**

Even our chavs respected their parents, or they'd be beaten.
Aye, I better concentrate on not giving a damn...