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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 01:29:34
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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Monopose Contemptor is disappointing, but at least it's plastic.
Looks cool otherwise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 01:30:31
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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jimkurtjimmy wrote:So what are the major deferences between mark 4 and 7 other than the helmet. I need a little more motivation to buy it. Just wish it was mark 3 for my iron warriors
Back pack, leggings and chest plate are noticeably different. The shoulder pads have a thinner trim.
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Thought for the day: Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment.
30k Ultramarines: 2000 pts
Bolt Action Germans: ~1200 pts
AOS Stormcast: Just starting.
The Empire : ~60-70 models.
1500 pts
: My Salamanders painting blog 16 Infantry and 2 Vehicles done so far! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 01:31:40
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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infinite_array wrote:I'm curious - how many of us are going to toss the board game part of this box right into the trash as soon as we open it? If they're Space Hulk-esq tiles then I'll gladly take them off your hands. If they're more of that Assassination Force abomination, then yeah, throw 'em out.
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/28 01:36:15
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 01:43:41
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
Roswell, GA
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infinite_array wrote:I'm curious - how many of us are going to toss the board game part of this box right into the trash as soon as we open it?
That is pretty much what I will be doing. They will all join the Ranks of my Death Guard... or I could get 2 and start a new legion...hmm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 01:49:35
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Steady Space Marine Vet Sergeant
Hanging out on the Great Plains
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Excited but wish the legion armor was Mark III instead of Mark IV well at least now I should be able to find Mark IV helmet bits for my legion army.
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Eastern Frontier Exploratores
224th Astra Legion (main army)
628th Praetorian Guard Cohort (wife's army)
827th Auxilia Cohort (ad mech fun)
825th Foderati Cohort (in the beginning army)
1212th Foederati Cohort - Jokaero (cause I like apes with guns) |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 01:50:56
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Seriously, anyone who doesn't want their tiles (should the tiles be proper tiles and not bull gak tiles), I will take them off your hands!
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This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2015/10/28 01:51:08
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 01:51:15
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Been Around the Block
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I guess the chest didn't look very different to me because of assault marines. And I can't really see the back pack. What pattern bolter is that? I can't really see it
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 01:52:46
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
Roswell, GA
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H.B.M.C. wrote:Seriously, anyone who doesn't want their tiles (should the tiles be proper tiles and not bull gak tiles), I will take them off your hands! 
if i cant use them for any of my RPG games, you are welcome to them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 01:58:17
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth
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[MOD]
Making Stuff
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infinite_array wrote:I'm curious - how many of us are going to toss the board game part of this box right into the trash as soon as we open it?
I woudl probably be inclined to take the time to determine whether or not the game is good, first.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:02:42
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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I love how that the guy who took the photos couldn't manage just a single one of the contents of the box. Guess there was another earthquake.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:04:14
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Hacking Proxy Mk.1
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Man if this were released like 2 years ago I'd have been drooling all over it. Now I just feel like FW has been doing nothing but HH stuff for years and BL ran the series into the ground. I kinda just can't care, even if they are plastic. I think the worst part is the contemptor on top there with the utterly static legs, if I was to get a contemptor it will still have to be a FW one, no way do I want to get stuck with a static pose like that.
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Fafnir wrote:Oh, I certainly vote with my dollar, but the problem is that that is not enough. The problem with the 'vote with your dollar' response is that it doesn't take into account why we're not buying the product. I want to enjoy 40k enough to buy back in. It was my introduction to traditional games, and there was a time when I enjoyed it very much. I want to buy 40k, but Gamesworkshop is doing their very best to push me away, and simply not buying their product won't tell them that. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:07:06
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Discriminating Deathmark Assassin
Roswell, GA
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H.B.M.C. wrote:I love how that the guy who took the photos couldn't manage just a single one of the contents of the box. Guess there was another earthquake.
its some marketing guy somewhere, patting himself on the back.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:09:04
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Boosting Space Marine Biker
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I reckon those legs'll be convertable with just a tad work to make them less static
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:10:12
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth
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Fixture of Dakka
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ZOMG. I'm pumped. The only question is, "how many?" O.O jimkurtjimmy wrote:So what are the major deferences between mark 4 and 7 other than the helmet. I need a little more motivation to buy it. Just wish it was mark 3 for my iron warriors Quite a few differences... - The Mk4 legs have the squared off "tabs" on the knees instead of the rounded ones on Mk7 - Mk4 has X-shaped cables across the chest that connects in a harness (much like Mk6, or the Rogue Trader beakie armor), whereas Mk7 has an aquilla on the chest - Mk4 helmet looks like a cut-off beak with vents in it, while Mk7 has the flat respirator - The backpack exhausts (the things off the round parts on the top) look a little different for Mk4. They're longer and more conical looking -- though this doesn't appear to be the case with the ones that come in plastic from the set.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:15:03
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Fixture of Dakka
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:17:13
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Yes, multiple times, and the title said "leaked pics"...
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"The Omnissiah is my Moderati" |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:20:20
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Boosting Ultramarine Biker
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Those legs are easily convertable, come on Dakka, it's called a knife and greenstuff!!!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:20:59
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Grim Dark Angels Interrogator-Chaplain
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that dread most certainly is not mono pose, at least not to anyone with even a slight bit of skill at conversions.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:35:14
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Dakka Veteran
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Well, I'll be getting a box day one and probably another one down the line. My only gripe is the marines being on 32mm bases. It's not a surprise, just annoyed as all my current marines are on the old bases.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 02:46:28
Subject: Re:Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Good to see they pretty much took the age of Sigmar box art and 40ked it up a bit, close to same posed, and of course blue/gold vs red
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 03:22:26
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Dakka Veteran
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Terminators look kinda 'samey' from the pick. The earlier leaked sprues at least show the marines have some variety in stance, but even they look very 'samey'. Almost like the old 3rd edition guys.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 03:25:04
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Sinister Chaos Marine
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H.B.M.C. wrote:I love how that the guy who took the photos couldn't manage just a single one of the contents of the box.
Or the card text.
Maybe his camera just couldn't focus on those parts. You know, the camera that can only take pictures at resolutions of 401x411, or 216x380...
- H8
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 03:40:20
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Douglas Bader
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Formosa wrote:that dread most certainly is not mono pose, at least not to anyone with even a slight bit of skill at conversions.
It certainly is compared to the resin kit, where literally every joint on the "real" dread is an actual joint on the model that can be glued anywhere in its full range of motion. Maybe it's worth doing a lot of conversion work if the plastic dread is cheap, but it's a huge step back in quality.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 03:59:36
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Pulsating Possessed Chaos Marine
Did you guys know Canada has a friggin desert?
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Peregrine wrote: Formosa wrote:that dread most certainly is not mono pose, at least not to anyone with even a slight bit of skill at conversions.
It certainly is compared to the resin kit, where literally every joint on the "real" dread is an actual joint on the model that can be glued anywhere in its full range of motion. Maybe it's worth doing a lot of conversion work if the plastic dread is cheap, but it's a huge step back in quality.
Playing devils advocate here, but there is a reason as to why the dreadnought is so static posed. With the different casting practices made with plastic versus resin it would have taken more sprue space to have every joint be seperate and that could result also in seams showing more obviously. Not that it should matter much anyways, it looks like it'll be easy as hell to convert, thats definitely what im doing
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You're not playing the game like I play it...why aren't you playing the game like I play it?! O_O |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 04:56:14
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Douglas Bader
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Blitza da warboy wrote:Playing devils advocate here, but there is a reason as to why the dreadnought is so static posed. With the different casting practices made with plastic versus resin it would have taken more sprue space to have every joint be seperate and that could result also in seams showing more obviously. Not that it should matter much anyways, it looks like it'll be easy as hell to convert, thats definitely what im doing
Well yeah, I'm sure there were reasons for making a static pose. But those reasons don't matter to me as a customer, all that matters is the final product and its price. And the final product is much lower in quality than the resin version. So unless it's significantly cheaper (and I mean 50% of the price or less) it's just not going to be appealing at all.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 05:00:26
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Cut em up, pose em up!
For 150... might as well get two sets and be setting pretty in both 40k and 30k.
I have been without internet for a few weeks and on lunch break at work. These guys don't have any icons like the Dark Vengeance set right?
(I'm trying to see if these sets will be good for a Pre-heresy word bearers force.)
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 05:09:43
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Sagitarius with a Big F'in Gun
Edmonton, Alberta
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No iconography on them. They're factory fresh mk IVs, bling not included
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 05:12:26
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Fixture of Dakka
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Peregrine wrote: Blitza da warboy wrote:Playing devils advocate here, but there is a reason as to why the dreadnought is so static posed. With the different casting practices made with plastic versus resin it would have taken more sprue space to have every joint be seperate and that could result also in seams showing more obviously. Not that it should matter much anyways, it looks like it'll be easy as hell to convert, thats definitely what im doing
Well yeah, I'm sure there were reasons for making a static pose. But those reasons don't matter to me as a customer, all that matters is the final product and its price. And the final product is much lower in quality than the resin version. So unless it's significantly cheaper (and I mean 50% of the price or less) it's just not going to be appealing at all.
Well they marketing it as a board-game, static poses in board-games was the norm before all the stuff hit kickstarter.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 05:51:50
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Douglas Bader
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Jehan-reznor wrote:Well they marketing it as a board-game, static poses in board-games was the norm before all the stuff hit kickstarter.
They can market it as whatever they want, but 95% of their purchases are going to be people buying plastic 30k marines without the slightest bit of concern for whatever board game rules happen to be in the box. And it's clearly not a traditional board game when you get a box full of sprues and have to spend huge amounts of time assembling all of the pieces. So they've just hit an awkward middle ground where the game has very little appeal to the "normal" board game market but the mono-pose models limit its appeal to the people who might otherwise want to buy it.
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There is no such thing as a hobby without politics. "Leave politics at the door" is itself a political statement, an endorsement of the status quo and an attempt to silence dissenting voices. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/10/28 05:59:48
Subject: Horus Heresy: Betrayal at Calth - Leaked Pics!
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Making Stuff
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Honestly, I doubt that the monopose legs on the dreadnought are going to hurt sales all that significantly.
GW have always had monopose legs on their dreadnoughts. It's disappointing that they keep doing it, but not really that unexpected.
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