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Adding Flavor to Centurions

Recently I have looked as the Space Marine List with Centurions and they seem to be the same. So after some talk we have come up with some options to give them more variety in their builds.

Assault Centurions:
May Replace Twin-Linked Flamers with:
>Twin-Linked Grav-Gun [+15]
>Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer [+10]
>Twin-Linked Plasma-Gun [+10]

Devastator Centurions:
May Replace Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter with:
>Twin-Linked Multi-Melta [+10]
>Twin-Linked Missile Launcher [+15] May Add Flack to all Missile Launchers for +10
>Twin-Linked Plasma-Cannon [+15]
>Twin-Linked Assault Cannon [+20]

This should add a little bit more flexibility and modeling potential.

 Anpu42 wrote:
Adding Flavor to Centurions

Recently I have looked as the Space Marine List with Centurions and they seem to be the same. So after some talk we have come up with some options to give them more variety in their builds.

Assault Centurions:
May Replace Twin-Linked Flamers with:
>Twin-Linked Grav-Gun [+15]
>Twin-Linked Heavy Flamer [+10]
>Twin-Linked Plasma-Gun [+10]

Devastator Centurions:
May Replace Twin-Linked Heavy Bolter with:
>Twin-Linked Multi-Melta [+10]
>Twin-Linked Missile Launcher [+15] May Add Flack to all Missile Launchers for +10
>Twin-Linked Plasma-Cannon [+15]
>Twin-Linked Assault Cannon [+20]

This should add a little bit more flexibility and modeling potential.

I like the idea if only for the potential to have two assault cannons modeled onto the centurion model.

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
I like the idea if only for the potential to have two assault cannons modeled onto the centurion model.

I want the Plasma Cannons myself, but I love Plasma.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
I like the idea if only for the potential to have two assault cannons modeled onto the centurion model.

I want the Plasma Cannons myself, but I love Plasma.

Plasma IS fun, but I don't like small blasts.

If it had an option to be S5 ap3 large blast, gets hot I think it'd be awesome

Small blasts are indeed terribad.

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:
I like the idea if only for the potential to have two assault cannons modeled onto the centurion model.

I want the Plasma Cannons myself, but I love Plasma.

Plasma IS fun, but I don't like small blasts.

If it had an option to be S5 ap3 large blast, gets hot I think it'd be awesome

Maybe have the Blast work like the Vindicators:
If you have 3 with small Blast they can fire as 1 Large and if there are 6 it is a Large with a re-roll.

I like this, but I dunno if assault centurions deserve grav or plasma. I would much prefer something with pinning or something analogous to fear for boosting their chances in the actual assault phase.

 Powerfisting wrote:
I like this, but I dunno if assault centurions deserve grav or plasma. I would much prefer something with pinning or something analogous to fear for boosting their chances in the actual assault phase.

Deserve, I don't know if that is the right word, but they need something.
Fear is mostly worthless.
As far boosting in the Assault Phase, if you can get them into an Assault, not a lot can stand up to them for long.
Their real problem is not being able to fire over-watch.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Powerfisting wrote:
I like this, but I dunno if assault centurions deserve grav or plasma. I would much prefer something with pinning or something analogous to fear for boosting their chances in the actual assault phase.

Deserve, I don't know if that is the right word, but they need something.
Fear is mostly worthless.
As far boosting in the Assault Phase, if you can get them into an Assault, not a lot can stand up to them for long.
Their real problem is not being able to fire over-watch.

Perhaps a decimator--protocol equivalent where they can use their flamers and meltas in the assault phase? That would kind of make up for not being able to overwatch and they's get to do whether they charged or not

{Clears Throat} ok, lets have HQ's take centurion armour
- recently promoted GW employee

(Crowd Cheers)

 Emperor Pigeon wrote:
{Clears Throat} ok, lets have HQ's take centurion armour
- recently promoted GW employee

(Crowd Cheers)

I don't normal HQ's (other than Imperial Fist) taking them, but defiantly TechMarines.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Emperor Pigeon wrote:
{Clears Throat} ok, lets have HQ's take centurion armour
- recently promoted GW employee

(Crowd Cheers)

I don't normal HQ's (other than Imperial Fist) taking them, but defiantly TechMarines.

but imperial fist Hq's are the most likely to use them given the bonuses they get as well as fluff reasons.

Techmarines would definitely suit them but putting a master of the forge in something like this may result in RAGE.

<just crying>

 Emperor Pigeon wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Emperor Pigeon wrote:
{Clears Throat} ok, lets have HQ's take centurion armour
- recently promoted GW employee

(Crowd Cheers)

I don't normal HQ's (other than Imperial Fist) taking them, but defiantly TechMarines.

but imperial fist Hq's are the most likely to use them given the bonuses they get as well as fluff reasons.

Techmarines would definitely suit them but putting a master of the forge in something like this may result in RAGE.

It should have been: I don't think normal HQ's (other than Imperial Fist) taking them, but defiantly TechMarines.

Master of the Forge In Centurion Armour

lets make it Dev version (we all know its better)

WS4 BS5 S5 T5 W3 I4 A2 Sv 2+ Ld10

Wargear:
- Power Axe
- Servo Harness
- Twin-Linked Heavy Bolters
- Hurricane Bolters

Special Rules:
- Blessing of the Omnissiah
- Decimator Protocols
- Fortify Defenses

then giving him the usual freedom to take relics, (Primarchs wrath pls and thnx), he might just be a really good, if slow HQ choice, which of course means fast kiting units like bikes will probably have afield day. However no one will ever trouble your repairs ever again.

 Slaanesh-Devotee wrote:
<just crying>

Is it the awesomeness this thread contains?

i would love to model a MOF in centurion armor... IN a DREADKNIGHT... PILOTING A TITAN... INSIDE A BIGGER TITAN...

Where is that picture that came up on 4chan of the dreadknight with voltron- style arms and legs made out of centurions? I wish I had kept it now....

I only saw it with other Dreadknights for arms and legs:

I do like the idea of a Tech-Marine in a Centurion Suit with a Conversion Beamer, Thunder Hammer and Servo Harness.

Good Rules, Bad Rules, it would just look cool.

An Idea on the Imperial Fist Character in Centurion Armor.
>Gives and Centurion Squad his is with Overwatch,

Is there a reason you changed it so only assault centurions have access to grav now, and devs also lost lascannons? Or are these in addition to existing options?

 greyknight12 wrote:
Is there a reason you changed it so only assault centurions have access to grav now, and devs also lost lascannons? Or are these in addition to existing options?

Just Adding Options

I dont understand this concept of people complaining about flavor.

Centrurions are great for shooting and spamming Grav.

When the Necron dex came out with their Decurion formations, they bemoan the loss of flavor even though the Decurion formation dominated.

 Filch wrote:
I dont understand this concept of people complaining about flavor.

Centrurions are great for shooting and spamming Grav.

When the Necron dex came out with their Decurion formations, they bemoan the loss of flavor even though the Decurion formation dominated.

What are you even talking about?

Vanilla or Rawsberry Centurion. Other than that, I don't like.

 Filch wrote:
I dont understand this concept of people complaining about flavor.

Centrurions are great for shooting and spamming Grav.

When the Necron dex came out with their Decurion formations, they bemoan the loss of flavor even though the Decurion formation dominated.

This what I am talking about. It seems the only weapon that is ever used it Grav. I do not recall seeing a single list with Las-Cannons or Heavy Bolters, it is 'All Grav All The Time'

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Filch wrote:
I dont understand this concept of people complaining about flavor.

Centrurions are great for shooting and spamming Grav.

When the Necron dex came out with their Decurion formations, they bemoan the loss of flavor even though the Decurion formation dominated.

This what I am talking about. It seems the only weapon that is ever used it Grav. I do not recall seeing a single list with Las-Cannons or Heavy Bolters, it is 'All Grav All The Time'

TBF I've seen assault cents used. Its a shame about heavy bolter cents though. The heavy bolter is one of those pieces that looks great, but sucks from a gameplay perspective. If it was 2 heavy bolters and not a single twin linked one maybe its be taken more often?

 PandaHero wrote:
Vanilla or Rawsberry Centurion. Other than that, I don't like.

No love for Twin-Linked Chocolate-Caramel Cents?

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Filch wrote:
I dont understand this concept of people complaining about flavor.

Centrurions are great for shooting and spamming Grav.

When the Necron dex came out with their Decurion formations, they bemoan the loss of flavor even though the Decurion formation dominated.

This what I am talking about. It seems the only weapon that is ever used it Grav. I do not recall seeing a single list with Las-Cannons or Heavy Bolters, it is 'All Grav All The Time'

TBF I've seen assault cents used. Its a shame about heavy bolter cents though. The heavy bolter is one of those pieces that looks great, but sucks from a gameplay perspective. If it was 2 heavy bolters and not a single twin linked one maybe its be taken more often?

I might have to talk my group about adding that as a house rule. I do love Heavy Bolters, I use 3 Heavy Bolter Typhoon Speeders all the time...I wonder if Heavy Bolter Missile Launcher Combo might work for Centurions in the same way. Of course with the loss of mobility it might not work real well.

 Anpu42 wrote:

 DoomShakaLaka wrote:

 Anpu42 wrote:

 Filch wrote:
I dont understand this concept of people complaining about flavor.

Centrurions are great for shooting and spamming Grav.

When the Necron dex came out with their Decurion formations, they bemoan the loss of flavor even though the Decurion formation dominated.

This what I am talking about. It seems the only weapon that is ever used it Grav. I do not recall seeing a single list with Las-Cannons or Heavy Bolters, it is 'All Grav All The Time'

TBF I've seen assault cents used. Its a shame about heavy bolter cents though. The heavy bolter is one of those pieces that looks great, but sucks from a gameplay perspective. If it was 2 heavy bolters and not a single twin linked one maybe its be taken more often?

I might have to talk my group about adding that as a house rule. I do love Heavy Bolters, I use 3 Heavy Bolter Typhoon Speeders all the time...I wonder if Heavy Bolter Missile Launcher Combo might work for Centurions in the same way. Of course with the loss of mobility it might not work real well.

Try putting them in a fortification with an escape hatch towards the front middle of the deployment zone and have them sit there as an Anti-infantry trap.