Obama renames mountain.

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**SilverMK2**

Ensis Ferrae wrote:
SilverMK2 wrote:

Unless the new name is the name of a woman or something...

Parton's Peaks?

**gorgon**

Redistribution of geological place names!

**Frazzled**

Mountain Lives Matter!...?

**Kanluwen**

If he doesn't rename a mountain to Mounted, I will be deeply disappointed in my president.

**kronk**

What happened when Bluto went to Mount Olive?

Popeye got pissed...

**toasteroven**

Frazzled wrote:
Now if we want some REAL fun Obama needs to rename Stone Mountain to one of these:

Racist Roundtop
Mount Cracker
Grant's Rock.

tee hee...

Nah, they just need to carve another nearby rock to look like that picture of Sherman where he's all glaring, with his arms folded.

Just constantly glaring at Stone Mountain.

**WrentheFaceless**

Yknow to drum up tourism we can call it Palin Peak

Give it the slogan "You can see Russia from here!"

**Jihadin**

toasteroven wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Now if we want some REAL fun Obama needs to rename Stone Mountain to one of these:

Racist Roundtop
Mount Cracker
Grant's Rock.

tee hee...

Nah, they just need to carve another nearby rock to look like that picture of Sherman where he's all glaring, with his arms folded.

Just constantly glaring at Stone Mountain.

Bareba..errrr Barack Mountain....

Anyway after my weak attempt

Devil’s Tower

The board is considering a proposal from Native American spiritual leader Arvol Looking Horse to rename Devil’s Tower—a monolithic rock that rises 1,267 feet (386 meters) above its surroundings in northeast Wyoming—to the traditional Sioux and Cheyenne name, Bear Lodge.

Designated as the country’s first national monument in 1906, "Devils Tower" was a white man's mistranslation of the words "Bad God's Tower," Looking Horse, a Sioux, argued in his proposal. His proposal says the name is offensive "because it equates cultural and faith traditions practiced at this site to 'devil worship,' in essence equating indigenous people to 'devils.'"

Other Native names for Devil's Tower include Bear’s House (Crow), Bear’s Tipi (Arapaho), and Tree Rock (Kiowa).

Yost says the board is gathering information on the request and is waiting to hear back from stakeholders.
Harney Peak

A group of Lakota in South Dakota have asked the board to rename the state’s Harney Peak, the highest point in the U.S. east of the Rocky Mountains. The petitioners say the current name for the craggy feature in western South Dakota is offensive because Army General William S. Harney’s men massacred Native women and children during a battle in 1855.

The Lakota have asked for an official reinstatement of their name for the 7,242-foot (2,207-meter) Black Hills feature: Hinhan Kaga, often translated as “mountain of the sacred owl.”

Mt. Rainier

Native Americans have filed several requests over the years to rename the highest point in Washington State. The name Mt. Rainier was bestowed by explorer George Vancouver in the 1790s to honor a fellow member of the British Royal Navy (one who fought against the U.S. in the Revolution). Alternative names suggested include Tahoma or Tacoma, which mean “snowy mountain peak,” or Ti'Swaq, which means “sky wiper.”

The board has repeatedly rejected the proposals, says Yost, because of insufficient evidence that alternative names are widely used.
Mt. St. Helens

Some American Indians have complained about the origin of the name Mt. St. Helens, the volcano in western Washington State that famously blew its top in 1980, killing 57 people. According to the United States Geological Survey, Mount St. Helens was called Louwala-Clough, or Smoking Mountain, by some local Native Americans. But in 1792 it was also named by George Vancouver, this time for the British Ambassador to Spain, Alleyne Fitzherbert, whose title was Baron St. Helens.

Yost says he isn’t aware of much local support for such a change.

**kronk**

Sorry. If it was in a Steven Spielberg movie, you have to stick to the name. That's the rules.

**Frazzled**

toasteroven wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
Now if we want some REAL fun Obama needs to rename Stone Mountain to one of these:

Racist Roundtop
Mount Cracker
Grant's Rock.

tee hee...

Nah, they just need to carve another nearby rock to look like that picture of Sherman where he's all glaring, with his arms folded.

Just constantly glaring at Stone Mountain.

Son, I like what you've done here.

**Iron_Captain**

WrentheFaceless wrote:
Yknow to drum up tourism we can call it Palin Peak

Give it the slogan "You can see Russia from here!"

If you are in Alaska, you can already see Russia by just looking at the ground. Alaska is Russia

They should have renamed it to its proper Russian name: Bolshaya Gora.

**WrentheFaceless**

Iron_Captain wrote:
WrentheFaceless wrote:
Yknow to drum up tourism we can call it Palin Peak

Give it the slogan "You can see Russia from here!"

If you are in Alaska, you can already see Russia by just looking at the ground. Alaska is Russia
They should have renamed it to its proper Russian name: Bolshaya Gora.

Hey, you guys sold it to us fair and square.

**ScootyPuffJunior**

"Hence forth, this mountain shall be named the name it was given thousands of years before white people got here and renamed it. Also, suck it, Ohio."

This thread has been enjoyable and generated more exalts from me than any other thread (except maybe that one ebola thread).

**Ahtman**

Exalted just for "suck it, Ohio".

**Frazzled**

I'm sensing basic hostility towards Ohio. This is a good thing.

**Ensis Ferrae**

Frazzled wrote:
I'm sensing basic hostility towards Ohio. This is a good thing.

It's a place that is so bad that 5 people have gone to space just to get away from it... tells me about all I need to know

**Frazzled**

Ensis Ferrae wrote:
Frazzled wrote:
I'm sensing basic hostility towards Ohio. This is a good thing.

It's a place that is so bad that 5 people have gone to space just to get away from it... tells me about all I need to know

**Dreadclaw69**

streamdragon wrote:
Polonius wrote:
It's not like Obama is calling it Barack's Rock

I don't know why I find this so hilarious, but I do.

Get Barrack's Rocks off (our maps)

**Bromsy**

I doubt Denali is the original name of the mountain. Sure it's been called that for a while... but original? Probably not.

**Co'tor Shas**

It was probebly origninaly called something along the lines of.

"a mountain", "a big hunk of rock" or even, "your finger, you fool"

**d-usa**

Snopes is already on the case, and the following has already been debunked!

**H.B.M.C.**

I'd like to the thank the people of this thread. I never knew who President McKinley was or his significance. Now I do.

Also "denali" means Great One, and clearly the mountain is not Wayne Gretzky, so it should be changed back.

**ScootyPuffJunior**

Bromsy wrote:
I doubt Denali is the original name of the mountain. Sure it's been called that for a while... but original? Probably not.

It's what the Koyukon people who have lived in the region for thousands of years have called it. It pretty much means "tall."

So yeah, it's the original name.

But have no fear guys, Donald Trump will fix everything.

**Bromsy**

ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
I doubt Denali is the original name of the mountain. Sure it's been called that for a while... but original? Probably not.
It's what the Koyukon people who have lived in the region for thousands of years have called it. It pretty much means "tall."

So yeah, it's the original name.

Ah, so is it the term original you are having trouble with? Or do you honestly believe that whatever proto-native american group first stumbled on the mountain, pointed at it and said "Denali", settled down for the twenty to forty or so thousand years between then and now - depending on what theories you buy into about how the Americas were populated - and remained culturally and linguistically stable, or at least enough so that the word for that specific mountain remained the exact same?

Cause I am betting no.

**Mr. Burning**

Bromsy wrote:
ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
I doubt Denali is the original name of the mountain. Sure it's been called that for a while... but original? Probably not.
It's what the Koyukon people who have lived in the region for thousands of years have called it. It pretty much means "tall."

So yeah, it's the original name.

Ah, so is it the term original you are having trouble with? Or do you honestly believe that whatever proto-native american group first stumbled on the mountain, pointed at it and said "Denali", settled down for the twenty to forty or so thousand years between then and now - depending on what theories you buy into about how the Americas were populated - and remained culturally and linguistically stable, or at least enough so that the word for that specific mountain remained the exact same?

Cause I am betting no.

Are you really going down this road when this thread has already brought us the glorious new term (to me) 'poutrage'?

**snurl**

The first person to plant a Confederate Battle Flag on top of that mountain wins.

**ScootyPuffJunior**

Bromsy wrote:
ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
I doubt Denali is the original name of the mountain. Sure it's been called that for a while... but original? Probably not.
It's what the Koyukon people who have lived in the region for thousands of years have called it. It pretty much means "tall."

So yeah, it's the original name.

Ah, so is it the term original you are having trouble with? Or do you honestly believe that whatever proto-native american group first stumbled on the mountain, pointed at it and said "Denali", settled down for the twenty to forty or so thousand years between then and now - depending on what theories you buy into about how the Americas were populated - and remained culturally and linguistically stable, or at least enough so that the word for that specific mountain remained the exact same?

Cause I am betting no.

You're adorable!

To begin with, Denali is the Anglicization of the Koyukon Athabascan name for the mountain (Deenaalee) that has been used for at roughly 12,000 years. The indigenous people in the area had different names for the mountain, depending on what ethnolinguistic group they originated from. The Koyukon people that lived on the flanks of the mountain called it Denali or Denale (meaning "tall"). South of the mountain, the Dena'ina people called it Dghelay Ka’a (meaning "the big mountain"). There are a couple other names for mountain the various Athabascan languages as well.

The bottom line is the first person to name the mountain wasn't a white guy from New Hampshire.

**sebster**

Poutrage is my new favourite word.

The comedy here is that all Obama did was rubber stamp something that a state wanted. There’s a really high chance that after Obama was told about this, his response was something along the lines of ‘okay, whatever, is there something I sign to make this go away?’

But run that through the conservative outrage machine and you get Obama’s destroys US heritage and makes US look weak in front of the rest of the world. Which isn’t even that much of an exaggeration on the posts in this thread, weirdly enough.

It’s cool that this time hardly anyone can bring themselves to pretend this is the worst thing a president has ever done. It’s probably because Obama is close enough to the end of his term that there’s neither fun nor profit to be had in inventing weird ways to be scared of him anymore. It probably isn’t because of how ridiculous a pretend scandal this is, because while it is very ridiculous, it’s nothing like as crazy as the Christmas tree thing.

**Bromsy**

ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
I doubt Denali is the original name of the mountain. Sure it's been called that for a while... but original? Probably not.
It's what the Koyukon people who have lived in the region for thousands of years have called it. It pretty much means "tall."

So yeah, it's the original name.

Ah, so is it the term original you are having trouble with? Or do you honestly believe that whatever proto-native american group first stumbled on the mountain, pointed at it and said "Denali", settled down for the twenty to forty or so thousand years between then and now - depending on what theories you buy into about how the Americas were populated - and remained culturally and linguistically stable, or at least enough so that the word for that specific mountain remained the exact same?

Cause I am betting no.
You're adorable!

To begin with, Denali is the Anglicization of the Koyukon Athabascan name for the mountain (Deenaalee) that has been used for at roughly 12,000 years. The indigenous people in the area had different names for the mountain, depending on what ethnolinguistic group they originated from. The Koyukon people that lived on the flanks of the mountain called it Denali or Denale (meaning "tall"). South of the mountain, the Dena'ina people called it Dghelay Ka’a (meaning "the big mountain"). There are a couple other names for mountain the various Athabascan languages as well.

The bottom line is the first person to name the mountain wasn't a white guy from New Hampshire.

Okay, so basically what you are saying is that I was right? Because I said it wasn't the original name, you said it was, I said it wasn't, and then you said it wasn't? It's not like I said McKinley was the original name.

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Mr. Burning wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
ScootyPuffJunior wrote:
Bromsy wrote:
I doubt Denali is the original name of the mountain. Sure it's been called that for a while... but original? Probably not.
It's what the Koyukon people who have lived in the region for thousands of years have called it. It pretty much means "tall."

So yeah, it's the original name.

Ah, so is it the term original you are having trouble with? Or do you honestly believe that whatever proto-native american group first stumbled on the mountain, pointed at it and said "Denali", settled down for the twenty to forty or so thousand years between then and now - depending on what theories you buy into about how the Americas were populated - and remained culturally and linguistically stable, or at least enough so that the word for that specific mountain remained the exact same?

Cause I am betting no.

Are you really going down this road when this thread has already brought us the glorious new term (to me) 'poutrage'?

The road of being technically correct (it's the best kind of correct)?

**ScootyPuffJunior**

Bromsy wrote:
Okay, so basically what you are saying is that I was right? Because I said it wasn't the original name, you said it was, I said it wasn't, and then you said it wasn't? It's not like I said McKinley was the original name.

Denali is the most prominent of the historic names for the mountain and the one used by the people who settled the area around the mountain, which is the reason why we use that as the original name.

Sorry if you have a difficult time understanding that.