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It is about the same as a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship. I'm ok with that for the era. If don't win one I don't feel like I'm missing anything and I won't be going to ebay for it either. I like how it is out there for Xindi/Ent fans but nothing game breaking.

That being said I don't like how he said the prize ship from month 2 was going to "change the game as we know it". WK should make the Xindi appealing as a faction but they shouldn't be "game changing" nothing about them appears in any other series so a faction that only had an impact on an early era shouldn't be that powerful. That would be like making the Vulcans a challenge to the Borg

 Mr. S Baldrick wrote:
It is about the same as a Jem'Hadar Attack Ship. I'm ok with that for the era. If don't win one I don't feel like I'm missing anything and I won't be going to ebay for it either. I like how it is out there for Xindi/Ent fans but nothing game breaking.

That being said I don't like how he said the prize ship from month 2 was going to "change the game as we know it". WK should make the Xindi appealing as a faction but they shouldn't be "game changing" nothing about them appears in any other series so a faction that only had an impact on an early era shouldn't be that powerful. That would be like making the Vulcans a challenge to the Borg

Remember, this was the same guy that said "Upgraded Phasers are going to change this game. 100%, straight forward, I am declaring it right now. The meta in this game is shifting; this card will be at the forefront of it, that the course of Star Trek Attack Wing changes with cards like Upgraded Phasers, and it will never, ever ever ever be the same. Mark my words, done."

I really wish this guy would write a script before be starts talking about a card... anywho...

It's disappointing how small it is. Anymore, if a ship isn't at least a 4/2/4/4, it doesn't get taken. One of the things I do like about the ship, is the ship ability. It's a very subtle thing, but spend a [BS] to reroll your attack roll. You might say "WTF?!?!", but consider that the ship only has 3 attack dice- the numbers are not that good in scoring one hit, much less multiple hits, so the ship ability is spot on. The captain card that comes with it- again, on a small ship, or I should say a ship with few attack dice, this is a great ability. On the named Xindi ship, well, getting two tokens on it to use both abilities seems like a bit of a stretch.

The crew upgrades... wow. They are very, very powerful. "Oh, you disabled one of my crew? Well, disable one of your crew AND your captain..." or "You have no shields? Kewl. Why don't you just go ahead and disable all your crew and take an Aux Token too." Pretty situational, but devastating against some of those builds that rely on a lot of crew or like to screw with your crew.

Overall, I like the ship, and if playing in era specific formats or small ship formats, it rocks. Regular OP play, it'll probably never see the board.

Anything that gaks crew fits pretty well with how the Temporal cold war went: the Xindi strike team boarded Enterprise at least three separate times, totally wrecking the security teams.

It also matches well with the way the Federation works vs. other factions; Feds rely heavily of their crew for their superpowers (great all around faction, but the right crew combos are vicious and can throw more dice than even Remans). I like it. not gonna go ape-s*** for it, but its very cool thematically.

I agree with Tamwulf. I do like David, he seems like a nice guy I wouldn't mind playing against. However I don't think it's one person's or a small groups job to declare what the meta is and what is breaking the game. That is part of the reason I didn't care for State of the Federation. I am go to chalk it up to he is just excited and hope for the best.

We also see here on the forum's that the local meta is different depending on where you are located. My groups meta keeps shifting constantly based off of who is winning with what builds. Our predominate meta is currently swarm tactics: moderate cost ships with minimal upgrades and as many of them as you can get.

Hell, we had one game that was a swarm of 20 jehmhadar attack ships!

Very true. I hardly ever see swarms, Tamwulf doesn't see many fighter, Borg seem to be in decline lots of places, but none of these can speak for everywhere. People said Type Phaser was going to "change the game" but I haven't seen anyone around but me use it yet.

Its! ITS!!!! ...it's a bird of prey...

Go wild, ye klingons, Rage hard! (some very interesting cards imo).








It is a K'vort though.

BOP as predicted...thats said K'vort is doable. While I like the ability and will use the ship. I don't think Dave's idea is valid. why waste a 26 point ship to get hammered by the enemy with Kor on board, seems like a waste of ship to me. something small like a base B'rel or base Kitinga is a better choice. Personally I'd go with Somraw for Kor.

Duras: While it seems nice there are no cheap weapon and tech choices for klingons to get rid of, if I take either they are critical to my plan and at 3-5 points they will never justify being discarded fo a mere +1. Now there are plenty of crew that are expendable, however klingon ships do not have more than 2 slots for a named vessel, so duras is meh! in my book. great for a blind pull by he'll most likly never see play after that for me.

Dishonorable Tactics: I like it it gives a Worf reroll to any captian. So, Klag 1 sp will be sacked to reroll again. Sign me up.

Kurak: I like it, a lot better than the current choice for defensive crew (Kerla range 1 limitation) After taking initial damage while cloaked, rarely does anyone recloak. She just might allow you to stay alive for a 3 shot.

Targeting systems: over priced, with worf and Kor skill 8, and even Kargen, why would you take a 4 sp discard to TL.

Ambush Attack: A 5 sp discard to strikes first, wow overpriced and nearly useless. disabling a squadron upgade is 9/10 times useless, most fighter taken are a 20 sp base fighters. Being unique makes it worse. Compare to the other blind booster secondary weapons, this one is subpar.

OMG. "Kurak is a card that is going to change bits and pieces of the game." I... I... ugh. Just, ugh.

I like Kvort's- great Klingon ships. Like a lot of players over on Facebook, I'd rather have seen a Vor'Cha.

Way too many discards for my taste. Every ability in this pack uses a Discard except for the ship ability- which might as well be a discard. LOL Nah, it's not that bad. I'm just irked that Wizkids introduced the Time Token mechanic, but all these blind ships have used disable/discard mechanics.

Kurak- discard and disable shields to prevent up to 2 hits. Yuck. Gotta have the shields to disable first- so can't use it while cloaked. How would I get around a ship with this ability? I'd just shoot at it with two ships. The Kurak player would be able to prevent two damage on the first attack, but would basically take two MORE points from the next attack. Very situational card. Can't use it while cloaked, can't use it unless you have shields, and I wouldn't use it when more than one ship could shoot at my ship.

Duras- nice ability, but discard upgrades on a Klingon ship really, really hurts. Klingon's don't/can't take a lot of upgrades for a variety reasons.

IKS Buruk- Of the blind ships so far, this is the one I hope NOT to pull during an event. It would spend the game discarding all it's upgrades to last just a little bit longer, or maybe add +1 attack die... in other words, it wouldn't fit into the fleets I like to build. Now, outside of a blind event, I can see myself using this ship with other upgrades/crew.

I feel disappointed in this blind. Where are all the Time Tokens?!?! Only 4 more ships to preview...

The Wizkids Klingon hate continues Tamwulf....and I agree as a blind this one is not an ideal one to pull, if I did not sure how I'd build it. Worse blind so far

Well, the bright side is its another K'Vort... At least it isn't a B'Rel!

 Corpsman913 wrote:
Well, the bright side is its another K'Vort... At least it isn't a B'Rel!

True but the crew, tech and secondary weapons on the Rotarran better be awesome or wizkids will be recieving hate mail from me everyday for a month

I agree with most it is on the low end of the blinds you want. However outside of the blinds Duras may actually make a use for Cryogenic Stasis. You get two slots for one and Klingons have more crappie cheap crew than cheap tech. Also for his text he doesn't care if they have time tokens on them or if the crew are disabled. So throw Stex and Corax in stasis, bring them out first two turns and you have fodder.

Is it a great plan probably not, but it's something different for Klingons to try.

As for the ship its self, I take the hands down Pagh. Adding damage seems way more useful than 1 extra defense die to one attack.

The crew is ok but outside of Weyoun shenanigans, she isn't that great. Maybe if you want to combine her and Bukah, but that is a 7pt sink.

This is the Meh pack to be sure.

SO we have Bioship Omega, A d'dedrix class, a MU Vorcha (still leaves a sour taste), the Lokota (good pack over all), this Kvort (meh), and a new Cardasian, right?

So what is next?

For all the people saying they prefer David to Teri, she never threw her toys out of the pram and declared "everyone will be punished" for a few bad comments and announce no more previews for 36 hours.
Don't think the guy is up to the task

I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a Ferengi Marauder with some kind of Combat Vessel Variant I could see another Kazon Predator class, with the Halik Raider coming up that would get them to 5 ships. I would also like to see another Hirogen ship for Independents. Or some 5 hull 4-5 attack Indy ship, the Krenim and Vidiian ships were a little disappointing

 emperorpenguin wrote:
For all the people saying they prefer David to Teri, she never threw her toys out of the pram and declared "everyone will be punished" for a few bad comments and announce no more previews for 36 hours.
Don't think the guy is up to the task

Wait what? so someone got nasty about the Klingon release, I assume on youtube? No no more blind spoilers for 36 hours? The disscussion here and on BoardGame Geek has been civil.

My last reply to him was very civil and I diagreeded 100% with him on BGG. Ill even admit mine is the most sour of comments.

Here it is:

"" Don't take what I say personal

my local meta is Ship faction pure, so outside officer exchange. Mixed has no value to me.

To design a release in a faction based game, where the only way I can maxamize it is to mix it with other factions, is odd. Why have factions at all then.

Now were getting into the Games Workshop folly...

It should be playable as Klingons first and if it opens up some things outside that then great, but it should synergy with other Klingon cards primarily. Otherwise what was the point of it being in the Klingon faction. It could have been independant or MU, if its only real use was to help mixed faction play. """

No idea what set him off, I saw no complaining. I always found the SOTF guys very over sensitive
But if he can't handle the crap that's inherent to the Internet then he should give it up and maybe let Trueflight Silverwing or someone have a go

 emperorpenguin wrote:
For all the people saying they prefer David to Teri, she never threw her toys out of the pram and declared "everyone will be punished" for a few bad comments and announce no more previews for 36 hours.
Don't think the guy is up to the task

Where did he announce that

On Facebook "Due to community reaction, the Shipyard will be taking a posting break of 36 hours or so. Aim to do better."

I find the "aim to do better" very insulting to the community

talk about condescending. If you can't take people's comments don't put yourself out there, or at the very least do it the StarTrek.com does it. Just show the cards and keep teasers/commentary to yourself.

Do you have a link, I couldn't see it anywhere on FB.

What the name of the Facebook page

It's on Star Trek Attack Wing Community and The Shipyard pages

Outside of the online community (mainly here), I find that a lot of the guys who get selected for preview content tend to have an over-inlated sense of themselves... I think that is what happened.

It might have been some hate sent directly to him via PM, so maybe he has a legitimate concern.

I am with you Mr. Baldrick: I would love to have the Ferengi or Indies get something with a bit more punch.

I feel like Ferengi are on the cusp of semi competitive. They have access to non action BS, they have some attack cancelation, some decent crew and tech. What they are lacking is a solid high skill captain and firepower. I find it a real shame Zek didn't boost captain skill. Even a plus 1 and only playable on a Ferengi ship would be ok. They don't need anything crazy, but a skill 7 that could be combined with an admiral and fleet captain to get to a 9 would have been nice.

I was very surprised that the D'kora is only a 20 point ship, in the show it seemed like a match for the Galaxy class


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I was very surprised that the D'kora is only a 20 point ship, in the show it seemed like a match for the Galaxy class

 emperorpenguin wrote:
I was very surprised that the D'kora is only a 20 point ship, in the show it seemed like a match for the Galaxy class

I believe the first time we see one in The Last Outpost, Data even comments that it is a match for the Enterprise D.


I would have been happy it it just had the stats of the Nebula Class. The void between 3 and 4 attacks in this game is huge.

I have no idea what set that guy off, or if he started having technical issues. I felt overall that his videos where good, but could use some improvement. I know I tried to be constructive in my criticisms- something most people on the interwebz are not. But if you are putting yourself out there on the interwebz and giving an opinion on a subject, you have to have some thick skin to do that.

Ah well. I'm not sure what happened. I hope it's a technical issue and not a "someone kicked sand in my man-gina! I'm hurt! Wahhhhhh!"

I'm not sure if this is the best place to ask, but since it's Temporal Cold War... What are the odds of getting an Enterprise J?

Somewhere between slim and none in my opinion