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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/16 02:12:06
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Wise Ethereal with Bodyguard
Catskills in NYS
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A Long Island woman’s insistence that President Obama follows her on Twitter made doctors at the Harlem Hospital psych ward think she was delusional and suffering from bipolar disorder — but she was actually telling the truth, a lawsuit charges.
Kam Brock’s frightening eight-day “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest” ordeal at the mental facility included forced injections of powerful sedatives and demands she down doses of lithium, medical records obtained through her suit filed in Manhattan Federal Court show.
They also indicate that doctors didn’t believe the leader of the free world followed her on Twitter — though @BarackObama follows over 640,000 accounts, including hers. They were also skeptical she worked at a bank, records show.
“I told (the doctor) Obama follows me on Twitter to show her the type of person I am. I’m a good person, a positive person. Obama follows positive people!” Brock, whose Twitter handle is @AkilahBrock, said.
A “master treatment plan” from Harlem Hospital backs up the Astoria Bank worker’s story.
“Objective: Patient will verbalize the importance of education for employment and will state that Obama is not following her on Twitter,” the document reads.
It also notes “patient’s weaknesses: inability to test reality, unemployment.”
Adding insult to insanity, the hospital hit Brock with a bill of $13,637.10, she charges in her suit seeking unspecified damages.
The bizarre experience began Sept. 12, when the NYPD seized her prized 2003 BMW 325Ci in Harlem because they suspected she was high on weed, her attorney, Michael Lamonsoff, said. Cops found no marijuana but confiscated her ride anyway, he said. The NYPD declined to comment.
The following day, Brock walked into the NYPD’s Public Service Area 6 stationhouse in Harlem to retrieve her car, her suit charges.
Brock — an eccentric 32-year-old born in Jamaica with dreams of making it big in the entertainment business — admitted in an interview she was “emotional,” but insisted she in no way is an “emotionally disturbed person.”
Nevertheless, cops cuffed her and put her in an ambulance bound for the hospital, her suit charges.
“Next thing you know, the police held onto me, the doctor stuck me with a needle and I was knocked out,” Brock said, tearing up. “I woke up to them taking off my underwear and then went out again. I woke up the next day in a hospital robe.”
Lamonsoff said race may have been a factor in the way Brock was treated.
“How would you act if you were being told you were crazy?” he said.
For eight days, she attended group therapy, endured injections of sedatives, and took lorazepam and lithium, medical records show, according to Lamonsoff.
When she was finally let go, the doctors didn’t tell her why she was being allowed to leave, Brock said.
Harlem Hospital declined to comment. The city Law Department said the suit would be reviewed.
As Brock wages her court battle, she had one wish. “Follow me on Twitter! Like Obama does!” she said.
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I really don't know what to say. How bad are these people at there jobs? Are they trying to be bad on purpose or something?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/16 23:09:03
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
Oz
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Psychiatric care can be really bad news. She's lucky she got out after 8 days. Down here in oz (in queensland at least) they're still giving people electroconvulsive therapy (ie frying their brains). The whole thing is just really bad news.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/16 23:49:28
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Co'tor Shas wrote:
For eight days, she attended group therapy, endured injections of sedatives, and took lorazepam and lithium, medical records show, according to Lamonsoff.
I mean, it SOUNDS like a good weekend, but I don't know about 8 days...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/16 23:51:29
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Confessor Of Sins
WA, USA
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Torga_DW wrote:Psychiatric care can be really bad news. She's lucky she got out after 8 days. Down here in oz (in queensland at least) they're still giving people electroconvulsive therapy (ie frying their brains). The whole thing is just really bad news. To be fair (and slightly off-topic) ECT is not necessarily a bad thing. It works, but it only works in a limited type of cases and it has been generally going out of fashion as a temporary relief as opposed to long-term treatment. It isn't like being blasted by a taser, it is more like a controlled seizure more than anything. Not saying that is any more palatable, but it is not groundless hokum, either.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 00:46:13
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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curran12 wrote: Torga_DW wrote:Psychiatric care can be really bad news. She's lucky she got out after 8 days. Down here in oz (in queensland at least) they're still giving people electroconvulsive therapy (ie frying their brains). The whole thing is just really bad news.
To be fair (and slightly off-topic) ECT is not necessarily a bad thing. It works, but it only works in a limited type of cases and it has been generally going out of fashion as a temporary relief as opposed to long-term treatment.
It isn't like being blasted by a taser, it is more like a controlled seizure more than anything. Not saying that is any more palatable, but it is not groundless hokum, either.
The main part there is 'limited'. Years ago ECT was another thing you gave mental patients because it was there. Having family members who have been on the receiving end of wholly unnecessary ECT, I'm not really sure what to think about it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 00:50:45
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Ultramarine Librarian with Freaky Familiar
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That's awful. How could you bill someone for forcibly holding them under illegitimate circumstances? I hope she gets due compensation for her suffering.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 03:16:31
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Androgynous Daemon Prince of Slaanesh
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She won't have to pay. Proper services have to be rendered. If services were falsely rendered and she can prove it (saying Obama followed her and having proof is gonna be decent enough), the bill will get thrown out. I actually have experience in this situation. Family member went to court over it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 10:30:46
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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timetowaste85 wrote:She won't have to pay. Proper services have to be rendered. If services were falsely rendered and she can prove it (saying Obama followed her and having proof is gonna be decent enough), the bill will get thrown out. I actually have experience in this situation. Family member went to court over it.
She won't pay. they will pay though in her lawsuit.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 15:36:18
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Jovial Junkatrukk Driver
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How can you forcibly take someone to a mental hospital and then forcibly inject that person multiple times with random drugs and sedatives?
How is this even legal?
I mean what the feth.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 17:50:55
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You know how you commonly hear "mental health care in the US needs to be looked at"?
This isn't really the kind of crap we're talking about, but it is a shining example of just how bad our system is.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 17:57:11
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)
The Great State of Texas
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Well, in the state's defense paying the obscene prices BMW wants really is insane.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 22:12:13
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
Oz
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Daemonhammer wrote:How can you forcibly take someone to a mental hospital and then forcibly inject that person multiple times with random drugs and sedatives?
How is this even legal?
I mean what the feth.
Because it's done in their 'best interests'. The problem is the process involved in delivering care tends to be shady at the best of times:
1 - the police diagnose her as having mental health condition after she makes a fuss about her car being wrongfully impounded. No conflict of interests possible here.
2 - the doctors take this and run with the assumption that there must be something wrong with her, but don't/can't/won't do a thorough diagnosis and evaluation. This is not cost effective because:
3 - stabilizing the patient (ie administering government-funded pharmaceuticals) is the key to fixing the problem. Run through the list and forcibly administer drugs until the patient stops complaining/making a scene*, and then there's the proof that the drug must be working.
Once you're in, it's very difficult to get out again. In australia they can keep you indefinitely until the doctor deems you 'cured'. Won't take your prescribed 'medication' (drugs)? The process won't start until you do, add time to your sentence. Yes there are appeal processes, but you need to a) know about them, and b)hope they're being conducted by an actually impartial review panel (and not just another section of the same hospital). What can be done to you 'for your own good' is really kinda scary. We had a guy die not too long ago (several years iirc) when orderlies sat on him to stop him moving (so they could administer an injection iirc).
*this is also similar to the process of ect - administer electric shocks to the brain until the patient 'calms down'. Used for bi-polar iirc. Fry someone's brain long enough and eventually they'll 'calm down'. Perform a lobotomy and someone will 'calm down' too.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 22:31:13
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Regular Dakkanaut
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A few years ago I went to primary care doctor looking for help to find counseling for depression and alcoholism. He didn't know what to do, so he sent me to a hospital for evaluation. Being only 20 at the time, and new to system, I answered the questionnaire truthfully, expecting to get steered in the right direction.
Instead I was held involuntarily for over 3 days and forced to take several SSRI's and benzos. I asked if I could not take them, and was basically told "Take them or you'll be here longer"
I finally got out when our family lawyer got involved, but they handed me a sheet to sign to get released which I did promptly. Later I found out that sheet was basically an agreement that I couldn't sue for being falsely committed, as a psychiatrist never even saw me during that time.
It truly is a surreal experience being a psych ward, knowing you don't belong, and trying to convince uninterested nurses that you're not crazy, when everyone else around you is. This particular facility had no windows, no tv, and no books. I dunno how that is supposed to help people.
Luckily I read Kesey at an earlier age.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/17 22:50:20
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Assassin with Black Lotus Poison
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One of my favourite stories about One Flew Over the Cuckoos Nest is that when they were making the film, they were filming in a real, working psychiatric hospital. Some of those people you see in the film are real patients and there were also patients helping to operate the film equipment. The doctors of the hospital said that working on the film was some of the best therapy those patients ever had.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2015/09/19 15:41:05
Subject: L.I. woman says psych ward doctors believed she was delusional for insisting Obama follows her on T
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Jovial Junkatrukk Driver
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I would probably start killing people if they did that to me.
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