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I see that this thing is being blown off the shelves already. Is there any reason to believe that it will in fact be a limited edition item? I've only been playing 40k for a few months now with a group of 5 other friends and we all started at the same time, so I don't understand the value of making such a new and exciting addition to 40k limited edition. We don't even know what the rules are for it yet so why is there such a rush to buy something that could be a huge fail.

I guess the real question is, why don't they put the codex out first so that people can make an informed decision on what to purchase? I wish that people would stop being sheeple because then GW might have to actually do things to suit the consumer, as opposed to their ridiculous schedule. Like I said, I'm quite new to the hobby, but I have been gaming for over 20 years. With the way that GW does some things I have to wonder how they stayed in business all of these years.

The same reason they put the girkamorkanaut out before the book. They were trying to sell it without the rules because it was garbage. Its an aegis defense wall that can move 6 inches a turn with a twin linked heavy rail gun. That's it.

 Orock wrote:
The same reason they put the girkamorkanaut out before the book. They were trying to sell it without the rules because it was garbage. Its an aegis defense wall that can move 6 inches a turn with a twin linked heavy rail gun. That's it.

It also has drones, so depending on its points value and ability to take systems this thing could be useful.

 Orock wrote:
The same reason they put the girkamorkanaut out before the book. They were trying to sell it without the rules because it was garbage. Its an aegis defense wall that can move 6 inches a turn with a twin linked heavy rail gun. That's it.

Wait, I thought we haven't seen its rules yet?

In any case, unless I'm misremembering the codex is always in the last week for new releases so it shouldn't have a bearing on what the Tidewall Rampart will be like.

 Orock wrote:
The same reason they put the girkamorkanaut out before the book. They were trying to sell it without the rules because it was garbage. Its an aegis defense wall that can move 6 inches a turn with a twin linked heavy rail gun. That's it.

Proof? Fact or guess? If fact where is the proof? If guess, why are you talking as if it was fact?

Because regardless of the rules it's also a really cool piece of Tau-specific terrain (and the first of its kind)? I couldn't give less of a gak what it does in-game and I honestly don't think I'll ever use the actual rules for it.

So what insult is appropriate for people who saw no value in it whatsoever because it didn't have OP rules and completely overlooked the fact that it's cool-looking fething terrain you don't have to scratch build?

 Sidstyler wrote:
Because regardless of the rules it's also a really cool piece of Tau-specific terrain (and the first of its kind)? I couldn't give less of a gak what it does in-game and I honestly don't think I'll ever use the actual rules for it.

So what insult is appropriate for people who saw no value in it whatsoever because it didn't have OP rules and completely overlooked the fact that it's cool-looking fething terrain you don't have to scratch build?

It really is cool terrain and I would've loved to have bought multiples to make a Tau outpost. Let the blueberries have their worlds get blownded up and fought over.

Shame it was limited edition.

Yeah, tell me about it.

I don't necessarily care if the rules are good. I just want Tau terrain. Know how rare this stuff is? I'm not exactly the master kitbasher let alone a guy who can make his own terrain.

Is there any reason to believe that the Tidewall Rampart is limited edition? I see that they are sold out of preorders, but does that mean that it won't be made available at a later date? It sure would be nice if things were more clear regarding the release of such a unique addition to 40k.

Translated white dwarf. Believe me or not I really don't care as you will know soon enough though. I did forget about the pods. And I never said it wasent cool, just do sent have some super mind blowing rules. The fact it moves is neat though.

 Sidstyler wrote:
Because regardless of the rules it's also a really cool piece of Tau-specific terrain (and the first of its kind)? I couldn't give less of a gak what it does in-game and I honestly don't think I'll ever use the actual rules for it.

So what insult is appropriate for people who saw no value in it whatsoever because it didn't have OP rules and completely overlooked the fact that it's cool-looking fething terrain you don't have to scratch build?

it is first of its kind for tau and gw main but is 2nd for xenos fortification ifone is to include forgeworld.

I think the sweet thing about this is that it hopefully won't be a tau usable only fortification and anyone can use it.

 Orock wrote:
The same reason they put the girkamorkanaut out before the book. They were trying to sell it without the rules because it was garbage. Its an aegis defense wall that can move 6 inches a turn with a twin linked heavy rail gun. That's it.

It's true...but but but hey they look cool

Oberron wrote:

 Sidstyler wrote:
Because regardless of the rules it's also a really cool piece of Tau-specific terrain (and the first of its kind)? I couldn't give less of a gak what it does in-game and I honestly don't think I'll ever use the actual rules for it.

So what insult is appropriate for people who saw no value in it whatsoever because it didn't have OP rules and completely overlooked the fact that it's cool-looking fething terrain you don't have to scratch build?

it is first of its kind for tau and gw main but is 2nd for xenos fortification ifone is to include forgeworld.

I think the sweet thing about this is that it hopefully won't be a tau usable only fortification and anyone can use it.

Far more than second if we're just talking about Xenos terrain.

Orks had a set of barricades that were available from GW main, Tyranids had several pieces of scenery(Capillary Towers, Digestion Pools, and Brood Nests) from Forge World, Tau had a crashed Piranha scenery piece and their Sensor Towers(which are back on FW's site now) and some turrets, and there was even a couple of Eldar pieces that never made it to final production.

No where in the White Dwarf does it say how far it movies I don't think. All we know is that it moves, can have drones that can detach, and looks awesome. It'll most likely be sold as separate pieces later on, this is just a limited run bundle.

Lets hope so. 40k definitely needs some more diverse terrain.

 Vikoon wrote:
I guess the real question is, why don't they put the codex out first so that people can make an informed decision on what to purchase?

Because they don't want you to make an informed decision. They want you to click "buy" as soon as a new product goes up, if you have time to think about it and make an informed decision you might decide not to buy the new thing.

Noctem wrote:
No where in the White Dwarf does it say how far it movies I don't think. All we know is that it moves, can have drones that can detach, and looks awesome. It'll most likely be sold as separate pieces later on, this is just a limited run bundle.

Its also could be 400 points. We have no idea what its armor is or any actual numbers for how it will work on the table top. I do think its pretty, but not buy it sight unseen pretty. The fact that its already sold out just rather goes how hungry many players are for anything not Marine.

I have 2 reserved at my shop, don't care if the rules suck or are game-breakingly spectacular. It is a sweet set of terrain, and it's huge. Easily comparable to sets like Wall of Martyrs, Aquila Strongpoint, Fortress of Redemption, etc.

It's perfectly themed for Tau, and it can just be played as neutral terrain, or to build a Tau urban map.

Incidentally, it also says in WD that shots are reflected back on the attacker. Rawr.

Also in one of its official descriptions it does say it reflects attacks back at the attacker.

So this thing looks crazy in theory. Let's see how the rules work out and how much it costs to field.

Maybe it'll be a 5++ for anyone behind it, and on a saving throw of 6 it reflects The shot back at the attacker.

And even if it can move, I'd probably thank the tau player for moving the wall closer to me so if can get behind it too.

But I wouldn't bet on it being able to move. Mobile could just as easily mean that it's easy for the tau to move and relocate after the battle, rather than an Imperial Bunker or Fortification.

I guess we'll see, though...

We see pictures of it on top of terrain like it hovers.

it seems very likely it's capable of moving.

Edit
I thought of one good if niche use for it. Tactical terrain denial. In some situations you could cover up terrain that could be used against you,

Shots reflected is probably something like the old Dispersion Shields - pass your invun and you can reflect the shot at an enemy within 6" of the shield.

 Peregrine wrote:

 Vikoon wrote:
I guess the real question is, why don't they put the codex out first so that people can make an informed decision on what to purchase?

Because they don't want you to make an informed decision. They want you to click "buy" as soon as a new product goes up, if you have time to think about it and make an informed decision you might decide not to buy the new thing.

Pretty sad when that is your main strategy for selling your own product eh? Instead of having a great quality of rules you have to go the sneaky way of "suckering" people into buying.

If it's true or not doesn't matter, it's the image that GW portrays.

GW is like a sleazy car salesman.

Its also why they started alienating competitive gamers, they can go into a book and write half of it out based on usefulness and then they tell everyone else. GW hates it when you say something sucks, their sell bots are even programed to say "It isn't bad, it just provides a different hobby challenge".

As someone who is 95% modeller and only 5% gamer and have never purchased tau before, I am for the fist time definitely going to get some tau to do a set piece based round this. Top notch model GW. Hopefully it will be back on general release soon.

 Furyou Miko wrote:
Shots reflected is probably something like the old Dispersion Shields - pass your invun and you can reflect the shot at an enemy within 6" of the shield.

Or it could be like the Kastelan Robots, where any saving throw(Invulnerable, Cover, or Armor save) of a 6 reflects the shot back at the firer--but can't deflect Blast, Template, or Psychic shooting attacks.

I'm more interested in this.


Nice kit on these guys. But it's nice too see xeno's get some love.

That mustache on the helmet is really distracting.

 Savageconvoy wrote:
That mustache on the helmet is really distracting.

That's the first thing I thought too. I couldn't think of a good name for it, but mustache is exactly what it is.